(CR) Alice to Zouroku

[Master_Yoma]

Well get to meet Sanae and some penguins

[Cloudedmind]

Originally Posted by Flower

Ep 01

Hafta agree about the clunky cgi animation, but it was not able to yank me out of enjoying the narrative, so on the whole I thought it rather good. I also think it has potential. Will definitely give the next episode a try.

Ah ... the ED (?) song was great, as expected - same folks that did the Flip Flappers ED, though,so maybe no surprise. ^^

I didn't figure it out that it was them, but as I was watching the ED, it did make me think of the Flip Flappers ED, and how it was just as nice. I must be having a slow day.

[PreSage]

I had a Magica Madoka vibe while watching this series. Maybe because the character design of Sana is similar as well as the overall atmosphere? Hmmm...a good start. Will continue with this show.

[Stark700]

Episode 3:

Minnie C gives me the creeps...

She has to learn and accept that her husband is DEAD and not coming back. Honestly, I don't think she is entirely stable anymore after her husband died and she is probably planning to use Sana to get him back. (even if he does come back somehow, I doubt he'll be 100% the way he was before) Pretty sure this will be a multi-episode arc. I wonder how they plan to save Sana though...

But seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more characters like Minnie C in the future.

[AB079]

Now this was a good episode compared to the boring 2 first ones and all thanks to Minnie C, such an interesting background and past, now I see why she acts like that.

Basically Sana has the power to create whatever she wants without any problem and that power makes her incredibly dangerous, Minnie C was the one in charge of finding the truth behind that power but she only wants to use it to revive her husband. My bet is that Minnie C will end dead, and that's because of her selfish wish.

One thing that I still dislike about the series is how Sana and Zouroku act like nothing is happening and everything is right, I mean they almost got killed some time ago and they don't even try to find some way to acquire more information about their current situation or at least be more cautious?

Anyways, Minnie C fixed this series quite a bit, good episode.

[Dop]

Yeah, that episode was a big improvement in that in Minnie C. we finally get a seriously dangerous enemy (and Noto Mamiko playing dangerous psychopaths with that voice of hers is always a good thing to hear), and they started to fill in more of the backstory.

[Funkatron]

Unless I'm missing something this episode felt semi-rushed or they skipped over something because all of the sudden the old dude knows someone who just by chance is chasing down the facility and has an Alice of their own. It at least explains glasses girl from episode 1

[Shlugo]

So there's an good organization that researches the phenomenon and tries to bring down the evil institute huh?

So, as I suspected, most of the Dreams have a specific power - a "card" - they can use, but Sanae is a full on reality warper.

Minnie C is messed up. The entire end of the episode was uncomfortable to watch.

I feel next episode things will not go so well... for Minnie C. She's messing with power she doesn't understand, and given the ominous title of the next episode, we'll probably see how terrifying the Red Queen can be.

[Master_Yoma]

Miriam C has one creepy power

[Kismet-chan]

Originally Posted by Funkatron

Unless I'm missing something this episode felt semi-rushed or they skipped over something because all of the sudden the old dude knows someone who just by chance is chasing down the facility and has an Alice of their own. It at least explains glasses girl from episode 1

This was my only complaint about the episode. I understand they want to keep things fast-paced and move the story along, but not giving better establishment of those characters and what they were there to do was kind of sloppy, imo.

The rest of it was great. Most of the episode was either really sad or really concerning, and I mean that in a good way. I like antagonistic characters that edge more towards gray like Minnie does. Hopefully, she'll continue to be a very interesting rival.

[Alchemist007]

Saw the first ep, love that the old guy has no patience for any of this shit. The self insert too many have been waiting for?

[gdpetti]

Haven't seen it yet, I like to wait for a few eps are out...

From the concept, I was wondering if this is 'next level' or 4th density oriented due to their abilities... thought form projection etc... seen in so many scifi formats over the last few decades... add in the whole 'looking glass' and 'Alice' aspects that can be seen in a really 'dark' sense, what with this other trope of the 'evil govt lab' which is not usually portrayed realistically in most media, such as those experiments on humans so popular in Japan and Germany during WW2, programs later taken to USA and Soviet Union... the whole Dorothy or Alice bit can be seen in Monarch Programming which often uses films like The Wizard of Oz, Alice in Wonderland, Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty for mind programming purposes. This site keeps track of a lot of this as it shows up in our media: https://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-k...-mind-control/

It is difficult to remain objective when describing the horrors endured by Monarch slaves. The extreme violence, the abuse, the mental torture and sadistic games inflicted on victims by “notable scientists” and high-level officials prove the existence of a true “dark side” in the powers that be. Despite the revelations, the documents and the whistle-blowers, a great majority of the population ignores, dismisses or avoids the issue altogether. Over two million Americans have been programmed by trauma mind-control since 1947 and the CIA publicly admitted its mind control projects in 1970. Movies such as The Manchurian Candidate have directly referred to the subject, even depicting actual techniques, such as electroshock, the use of trigger words and microchip implementation. Several public figures we see on our TV and movie screens are mind control slaves. Famous people such as Candy Jones, Celia Imrie and Sirhan Sirhan have gone on record and disclosed their mind control experiences…and yet the general public claims that it “cannot exist”.

The research and funds invested in project Monarch do not however only apply to mind control slaves. Many of the programming techniques perfected in these experiments are applied on a mass scale through mass media. Mainstream news, movies, music videos, advertisements and television shows are conceived using the most advanced data on human behavior ever compiled. A lot of this comes from Monarch programming.

So, I take it that this anime isn't going in that direction? Oh well, I was wondering if it would... what with all the 'outing' in the club these days... taking their stands in prep for their NWO fantasies. For another look behind the curtain in this deep state that these companies front for, try this recent interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEpcY5JU120
Ronald Bernard High Finance Shocking Revelations (Dutch with Subtitles)

But so far, my hopes won't be satisfied? Can't say I was expected too much, but anime/manga seem to use these symbols and esoteric words so much, that you never know when something might sneak through... especially on purpose, such as is sometimes found in tv shows like the FOx show Fringe a few years back... etc.

[Flower]

Things are still pretty early on and not a lot has been revealed as to the actual nature of those possessing the cards of the Dreams of Alice - in fact, that is partly why the research facility Sana escaped from seems to exist; to identify what thenature of the ability actually is. (And presumably how to control or make use of it, etc.)

As for the nature of the experimentation, not a lot has been shown thus far, but we do know that Sana saw something involving presumably graphic death that horrified her and catalysted her running away. Other Dreams of Alice holders mention that the experiments were unpleasant.

Again, perhaps more will come to the surface in time.

[Stark700]

Episode 4:

Spoiler:

Felt bad for Sana this episode as her kidnapper continuously intimidated her.

This episode gives more insight more about Sana. Really interesting to see Zouroku coming to her recuse though. While some characters consider her as a "monster", I think that should be dismissed as she is much more human than that. Not really surprised that Zouroku also got captured with her by Mini C.

I really find the emotional character connection between Sana and Zouroku to be noticeable this episode. Looks like we may see some Shizuku in action next time.

[AB079]

Okay that was a really good and interesting episode.

We were able to see what's the intentions behing Zouroku, he just wants to save Sana because she's part of his family right now and without rejecting her for not being human. The way how Sana was tortured was really hard, Minnie C again one of the most interesting characters right now.

Basically Sana can use her power to twist the reality and the things that happened around her, no wonder why Minnie C wants her power, with that she can revive her husband in no time. And this conflict isn't even finished, we have more coming next week.

[DmonHiro]

Huh....

"You shot a child without a second thought. Are you human?"

That one had to sting.

[Kismet-chan]

This episode hurt me in my feelings box. Poor Sana. :c

[Flower]

Ep 04

Oh my frikkin God ... that was ... intense. Wow. I was not expecting Minnie C to shoot Sana and literally shatter her bone! My jaw dropped and I froze for a split second in shock! Man - without any hesitation either. Yeah ... if you ask me Minnie's behavior was way more like an inhuman monster than anything before now.

Just ... wow.

Another really good episode, and the reveal about Sana puts another unexpected twist on not only her behavior we have seen both before and after her escape but also the ED animation sequence too ... where Sana suddenly appears from liquidy light swirling about, and why she is animated the way she is there. Very interesting....

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by DmonHiro

Huh....

"You shot a child without a second thought. Are you human?"

That one had to sting.

She had that coming. I'd been itching to ask her something like that all episode, even before she shot Sana. Looking between them it's pretty clear to me which one was the monster there.

Anyway... when drugged Sana had a conversation with someone... was that... herself? Her older self? How did that happen?

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by DmonHiro

Huh....

"You shot a child without a second thought. Are you human?"

That one had to sting.

Possibly the best part of Zouroku's speech and something that Minnie C deserved to hear.