Kamen Rider General Discussion

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

First 3 minutes of Shin Kamen Rider for limited time:

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https://youtu.be/uydUqZFSyQI

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[Kanon]

How is Buffa even supposed to use the Vision Driver when he doesn't have the fingerprint?

[Tactics]

I wonder if Beroba will fully bet on Azuma afterwards as her version of life lesson, providing him the fingerprint and necessary upgrade to reach GM power level like Geats.

Ziin's character arc and upcoming Kyun's felt like telling each Supporters were based on certain type of fans.
Ziin is reality show fans (strong preference to bet on experienced ones to handle various situations), Kyun is obviously idol show fans (flowery language through letters and believe its better to support from distance), leaving Kekera (who seems to be based on sports fans; competitive, hot-headed and rooting for potent youngsters) and Beroba.

[justavisitor]

Originally Posted by GDB

This isn't any more evil than anything else he's done since using the Jamato buckle. All he did was literally take the belt. He didn't kill her, leave her to die/get captured, etc.

Well that's true

He wants the power to destroy all riders still seem pretty weird tho. Especially this is a reality show. What if he gets the power then the TV director from the future decides to end the show and broadcast something else

So Ace can remember his past life, yet he lost the memory before when he got temporally kicked out from DGP. It's safe to assume it would only affect him the rest of this life only??? (don't wanna view it as a bug so trying to find some possible explanation)

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by justavisitor

He wants the power to destroy all riders still seem pretty weird tho.

I think the problem with this is timing and delivery.

If he put it simply under "I wanted to destroy DGP" until vs. Gazer it will became more sensible because he will gradually learn that: DGP higher-ups are Rider too, returners like Sae and Daichi revealed to be hardly cares about people life, Ace is reincarnator that will kept DGP running by his wishes; so it make sense to, "I wanted to destroy all Riders" afterward given exception to such mess is only Keiwa.

Though I can understand if Takahashi Yuya wanted to skip things entirely because he can't warrant Buffa screentime learning all of that.

Originally Posted by justavisitor

What if he gets the power then the TV director from the future decides to end the show and broadcast something else

While Geats is fine, so far, I can't help to think there's too many short-term decisions in it that the pay-off doesn't seem to be good as a whole.
Keiwa luck retconned into secret mission, DGP talked about ratings and investor but Niram insisted all is good simply because he got reset button after creating big hole in security known as Chirami, Neon now got "created by Goddess" subplot added while she's actually fine with her initial subplot that just enhanced by Sae.

I can see TV director arc happened for V-Cinema, maybe to deal with Buffa akin to Lyon (KR Zaia in Zero One V-Cinema) prior to Lone Wolf Vulcan vs. Metsubojinrai.

[GDB]

Neon's origins had been speculated since near the beginning, and this episode finally confirmed them.

Also, pissed off Geats was pretty badass.

[justavisitor]

it is pretty much expected that this Neon is fake back when we knew she was a creation from the goddess

yep, pissed off geats is amazing, but when he transformed to that newest form, the white skirt armor was waving like...it was plastic

Don't understand that if the goddess has such an amazing power, why didn't neon's dad simply wish his daughter to be back alive? Or rewind the clock so he could save his daughter? Why create a number 2?

[Tactics]

Yeah, I also didn't understand that part.

Narrative so far said that Goddess power is the reason behind confidence about resetting world which is why Niram felt high while Beroba wanted it for her own. However Kousei (Neon's father) specifically wrote Neon instead of Akari, no rewind or time travel involved in case resurrection is not allowed.

... Unless Kousei loath Akari life and wanted his own version of daughter instead of his wife's, still doesn't make it better.

SHT went hard this week, not only Geats now featuring Enoshima Junko Mk. II but also Kingohger reveal of silver ranger as evil ranger far before episode 20-22.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by justavisitor

Don't understand that if the goddess has such an amazing power, why didn't neon's dad simply wish his daughter to be back alive? Or rewind the clock so he could save his daughter? Why create a number 2?

The best speculation I've seen so far is that the Goddess can't change anything outside of the timeframe of the DGP being active. Since they seemed to still be recruiting a sponsor, it's likely this happened before the DGP started in the current era.

The other option is he was filled with guilt over Akari's death (note that Neon had been saying "they paid the ransom" as the reason she survived this whole time, so there's a distinct chance that they didn't actually pay the ransom to save Akari, thinking the kidnapper wouldn't actually kill her) that he couldn't bring himself to actually bring her back. The fact he changed her name to a more foreign, artificial name could indicate this being the reason.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by GDB

The best speculation I've seen so far is that the Goddess can't change anything outside of the timeframe of the DGP being active. Since they seemed to still be recruiting a sponsor, it's likely this happened before the DGP started in the current era.

I think that's more or less it. We have seen people get brought back to life like the ramen shop owner, but those people all died during the game. The Goddess must have limits that prevented him from bringing his daughter back. It was the only workaround he found to bring her back in some form.

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by GDB

The fact he changed her name to a more foreign, artificial name could indicate this being the reason.

Its a wordplay. Akari means illuminate. Neon, as we all know, is a substance to artificially illuminate, but kanji for Neon is composed by kanji for tomb and sound / voice, so roughly voice from the grave.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

It's disheartening to know that Shin KR is not as commercially successful as Shin G & Shin U so far based on its pace:

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https://youtu.be/OZ6ZV04erbE

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For comparison:
Shin Godzilla: budget 15 Million USD - gross 78 Million USD
Shin Ultraman: budget 5 Million USD - gross 34.4 Million USD

1 Billion Yen = 7.5 Million USD

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

For comparison:
Shin Godzilla: budget 15 Million USD - gross 78 Million USD
Shin Ultraman: budget 5 Million USD - gross 34.4 Million USD

1 Billion Yen = 7.5 Million USD

Fair outcome, I think.

Lack of advertisement compare to the other two (three if we count Evangelion as well), aired alongside popular manga adaptation, also how Toei developed fanbase compare to Toho and Tsuburaya. Unlike those two that always reserved part of their show for Showa legacy, KR fanbases have no issue to adapt thanks to Kuuga, Agito and Ryuki success; I expected most launch day audiences confused by Anno version but willing to give second chance (not sure about watching twice unless they're serious about toku or simply KR fans though).

I heard some comments said that "If you like Kamen Rider Spirits (manga), good chance you will like it (Shin Kamen Rider) as well". So not that bad, I guess.

[justavisitor]

Originally Posted by Tactics

o Kingohger reveal of silver ranger as evil ranger far before episode 20-22.

Wait, is Kingohger really that good? I haven't even seen the previous one yet

Talking about Kamen rider spirit...is it even over yet??

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by justavisitor

Wait, is Kingohger really that good? I haven't even seen the previous one yet

Talking about Kamen rider spirit...is it even over yet??

Kingohger in a nutshell (so far):

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https://youtu.be/2HN48c93CAk

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Meanwhile, Donbrothers in a nutshell:

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https://youtu.be/c4-eWjHwybM

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Donbrothers is fun sentai series, even better if you enjoy Japan comedy.
Inoue and staffs did good job here, attention to detail is good. My only issue is mid series, maybe around 1/3 of total episodes, can be considered filler.

Kingohger is more serious, the design is neat, felt like after Donbrothers success they tried to raise the bar for serious sentai while they can. Starting strong like this is surprising; lets say recently I look forward to Kingohger more than Geats.



Kamen Rider Spirits is still ongoing under different title after ZX arc due to change of publisher.

[Kanon]

So the dad could have brought back Akari, he just chose not to because he'd rather have a perfect daughter he can use as a tool to expand his conglomerate. At least that's how it was back then, I figured he's learned to love Neon since then and that's the reason he made her enter the DGP.

And we finally found out what happened to Ace's mom. I should have seen this coming.

[GDB]

Well, he made her perfect to expand the company once he decided not to revive Akari. The reason not to revive Akari was that he knew he'd remember her corpse every time he looked at her and couldn't deal with that burden.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by GDB

Well, he made her perfect to expand the company once he decided not to revive Akari. The reason not to revive Akari was that he knew he'd remember her corpse every time he looked at her and couldn't deal with that burden.

Except Niram said they could erase his memory if he wanted. It would have been as if nothing ever happened. Yet he still chose not to revive her.

[GDB]

At that point the guilt had already overwhelmed him.

[justavisitor]

Originally Posted by GDB

At that point the guilt had already overwhelmed him.

I am not entirely sure about that one. It seems like the selfish side takes over him at that moment.

And he wants neon to enter the DGP so he can have more relationship with the future ppl??

It's complicated to tell because I feel like the staff intentionally makes it a bit ambiguous.


Still, it's a solid episode. You really feel for neon in this episode.

and now, what's the power that can create a creation goddess who can create everything ....I am afraid we won't have an answer for this one. It will never end XD

And buffa finally says out his real goal