2023-03-27, 14:59
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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Hmm...so in the beginning, I thought Canute did a 180 and decided to let Olmar off easy. But in reality, he had super low tier guards stir up some trouble to "frame" Olmar. Not sure how that would have played out if there were no outside influences as Olmar is so incompetent I doubt any witnesses would have been able to agree that Olmar was a "troublemaker".
But...since Mr. Coin was there, it all went according to plan and the duel went on to become a fantastic bloodshed by none other than Thorgil himself. Thorgil reminds me of Akuma from Street Fighter, who has that long mane and is always thirsty to fight with bloodlust. And it didn't end there as Thorgil inflicted more damage to more of the king's men, and he was proud of it! Thorgil isn't so bad after all. He may have a penchant for violence, but so far, he's been an honorable warrior. Family first, from literally and figuratively picking up his little brother, to calmly rationalizing his actions to Ketil. So when Wulf said he would send 32 men to Ketil's farm, I burst out laughing, and when another 70 were added, I was thinking that's just more losses Canute will have to bear. I cannot wait to see the farm soaked in red after all will be said and done. Thorgil is no slouch and Thorfinn may very well be forced to protect his new way of life. More losses...the pile of bodies will grow...and King Sweyn makes that clear to his son. Being a king is very costly. Good to see Einar and Thorfinn at the end. The red flag from a few episodes ago has turned yellow for the time being thanks to Leif, and I hope the two slaves are officially granted their freedom by Ketil. Also, Leif, I hope he disembarks the boat and meets up with Thorfinn. Last edited by magnumcyclonex; 2023-03-27 at 15:11. |
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2023-03-27, 15:53
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 Yeah, he "picked up" his little brother alright... and then literally threatened to kill him if he didn't continue a fight to the death that he clearly didn't want to be in. A fight that would have obviously ended with Olmar dying if it wasn't for Mr. Coin's interference, which Thorgil had no way of knowing would happen. Thorgil basically pressured and intimidated his little brother into an early death (even if he survived in the end thanks to extraneous circumstances). Dude is a psycho, plain and simple. Olmar is the one who came off looking better here. For all his bravado, it is clear he has no genuine inclination towards violence. Quite the contrary, in fact. While Thorgil can kill many without batting an eye, the realization that he had killed a single man (after endless provocations and social pressure to do so) was enough to make Olmar freak out, which shows he actually has a semblance of a moral compass, unlike his older brother (and indeed many other men of his time). That is part of why I find him to be one of the most interesting characters in this arc (even if it easy to not take him seriously at first). |
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2023-03-27, 17:28
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Thorgil killed those men to protect his brother and father after he realized something was afoot. With his viscous methods, I suppose I could call it self preservation with the convenience of protecting his family since he's very publicly gone against the king. On the point of Olmar, he was written to be a cowardly dunce up to this point, but I do relish in his future state of mind transformation after seeing and realizing first hand what it actually means to kill* someone (and also know that he was aided). Ketil at this point serves up comedy with all the frustration he's going through caused by his two sons. |
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2023-03-27, 18:21
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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I can see why people would be impressed with Thorgil. He proved himself to be both extremely strong and smart in just one episode. He also cares about honor and pride to a fault. But he's still a cruel bloodthirsty psycho.
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2023-03-27, 18:30
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Thorgil went really fast from being a loyal king's guard to open rebellion, just because he suspected that there might be some plot against his family. And he only confirmed his hunch after cutting down a bunch of men, by extracting a confession with torture.
In the end he comes out looking like an exemplary nord warrior, but with that personality, he is just as likely to dishonorably cut down a bunch of innocents due to some misunderstanding. It's a scary example of how total psychopaths can sometimes rise to positions of power, and in some ways a good foil to King Cnut, who was a good person corrupted by power.
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2023-03-27, 22:59
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Is Olmar pathetic? Yeah. The audience knows it. The characters know it. Even he himself knows it. I mean, he’s drooling on a table! Although you still can’t help but feel bad for him that he’s being so manipulated and mocked, even if he still craves a lifestyle he’s ill suited for
 .I also kind of feel bad for those soldiers, I mean…they were just doing what they were paid to do and were basically manipulated to get killed for Canute’s plan. And Thorgil just needed an excuse to cut loose  .Olmar killed a guy! With help, but still. Except rather than feel satisfied he’s left utterly shock and numb. It was not what he was expecting it to be  .Poor Ketil. Canute planned to use his own men to instigate an incident and get his family arrested so he could steal his farm. Dude just came to deliver some gifts to the king and became a wanted fugitive. I guess he should be glad his son can smell a frame job a mile away  .Lief is heading to Thorfinn! And carrying the family back home as a means of getting to him. Although the fighting is about to come back to Thorfinn and Einar  …
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2023-03-28, 06:26
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Join Date: Nov 2012
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Man, that episode was so violent that it gave me season 1 memories. It's kinda insane how the older brother was ok with murdering most them like if he was in Metal Gear Rising. The animation was insane too. The way the background was animated reminded me of certain scenes from Breaking Bad when they exchange "material"
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2023-04-03, 12:06
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Starting off the second half straight off with violence and fire as a burly and powerful slave finally has enough, slaughters his captors, and makes them understand the pain of being a slave before he heads off in search of something...but at least he let the woman and child live
 .Survive Said The Prophet has returned! And fittingly this OP is more in-line with season 1 with all the emphasis on action, war, death, and the emotional anguish of our protagonists. Pretty epic on that front, though! But can Thorfinn ever find true salvation ?Einar, you don't have to hide it. No one would blame you for crushing hard on Arnheid or staying on the farm for her  .Poor Sverkel. He wants to keep working on the farm up until his death, but his body is giving out on him. But being taken care of and fed by Arnheid isn't the worst thing in the world, especially when you get a full course Arnheid meal, and better Sverkel than the mistress for Arnheid  !Yeah, those guys were pretty much doomed the moment they would not shut up or stop yelling near the guy they were supposed to be capturing. RIP Lizard. You lasted all of one episode . Bible reading, huh? Thorfinn definitely seems to be internalizing some of the teachings in it, especially the belief of loving everyone, even your enemy. Reminds me of the priest in season 1. I wonder how serious Snake was of selling it off though  .So the escaped slave is none other than Gardar...Arnheid's husband!? Dang, Einar has more competition for Arnheid! And you can tell the whole slew of emotions in Arnheid at seeing her husband again as he gallantly rides on like a legendary hero in a fairy tale .The ED is once again a suitably melancholic and serene theme with all the domestic bliss of the farm while everyone else is converging on it...and Thorfinn just moving forward .
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2023-04-03, 15:19
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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So Gardar was married to Arnheid?! Wow. And they both became slaves on different farms. So probably were free once before, married, and then became slaves?
I wonder who the other lady was in the beginning with the baby. Possibly a child of Gardar's, or that dead slave master? Feeling sorry for old man Gramps. He's realizing that his body won't hold up much longer. Still, to be an active farmer and working on the farm until quite an old age is impressive. A lifetime of work and physical labor kept him alive all this time when others would have had shorter life spans. Best part for me was the dinner table. Was such a nice "family" moment. Snake really digs into Gramps with the spoon fed teasing. I'm guessing with Canute on the horizon, they'll have to deal with Gardar first. Einar's going to be a bit jealous and envious of his superior self. |
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2023-04-04, 03:51
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Snake finding the Gospels boring and being more amused by the Old Testament was pretty funny.
And of course the Sermon on the Mount would appeal to Thorfinn and his newfound pacifistic ideals.The moments of calm before the storm were nice in general, and might be the last we get, since not only are Ketil and his sons about to return with the news that King Canute is now their enemy, but there is also this situation with Gardar now, which will have to be dealt with before that. Poor Arnheid, she is the most sympathetic character in this arc, but she is now stuck in a terrible predicament. Even if her husband was still of sound mind, she still wouldn't be able to simply return to his arms, but the abuse and mistreatment he was subjected to have clearly (and tragically) turned Gardar into a very unhinged individual, and Snake and his men are now targeting him. Needless to say, next week should be a very emotional episode, which the tense cliffhanger of this one set up perfectly (though it was indeed a shame that the new OP spoiled the connection between Arnheid and Gardar ahead of time). |
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2023-04-04, 22:10
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