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Old 2022-10-02, 09:18   Link #21
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Its nice to see them going almost full speed from the beginning. Even the exposition during the first half of the episode felt tense as the heroes prepared for their raid. They actually managed to catch the mad doctor by surprise for once (kind of) after how long he's been manipulating things from behind the scenes.

The opening song was a bit generic, though the animation was still excellent of course. I found the ending more memorable. Great to see Mirko in motion, hope they can keep this quality up the whole battle.
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Old 2022-10-02, 20:34   Link #22
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Glad we skipped the usual first episode filler. They even kept the recap to a minimum.
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Old 2022-10-08, 17:06   Link #23
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"Quirk: Rabbit. She can do everything a rabbit can, but even better"

We all thought the same thing when the narrator said that.

Anyway, Mirko is awesome. Really cool to see a female hero kick so much ass. Or brains, in this instance.
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Old 2022-10-08, 21:14   Link #24
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Yeah, Mirko is badass, losing an arm (which looked really painful) doesn't slow her down at all.

At least that's two of the more powerful quirks gone, but still plenty of Nomu for everyone to deal with. That and the raid on that villa is just starting (and Kaminari already got his moment to shine).
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Old 2022-10-09, 00:03   Link #25
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Credit to Mirko. She's definitely a badass. I'm still concerned for her safety since Tomura is a total monster right now and she's very much a close combat type. But she definitely showed her guts. Even when having a bad situation playing out with her arm she just keeps on going. I suppose so long as it's still attached she also has hope of getting it taken care of later.

Honestly a much better start to the season than we've gotten in a long time. Just getting right into it and it doesn't seem like the pace is going to ease up next week either.
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Old 2022-10-09, 06:21   Link #26
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Credit to Mirko. She's definitely a badass. I'm still concerned for her safety since Tomura is a total monster right now and she's very much a close combat type. But she definitely showed her guts. Even when having a bad situation playing out with her arm she just keeps on going. I suppose so long as it's still attached she also has hope of getting it taken care of later.
I don't think it counts as a spoiler but just in case...

Spoiler for Mirko:
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Old 2022-10-15, 22:06   Link #27
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It was an ugly situation. The tragedy of Twice reached its conclusion. He may not have considered it that way, but I'm with Hawks there. The guy was basically a victim his whole life. How he ended up getting involved with villains isn't all that shocking, but it basically set him on a path he couldn't even think to get off of. Not that the whole group is entirely worthless. But Tomura...just isn't the kind of person you follow to any sort of happy ending. It's a shame seeing someone that could really dedicate himself to people end up like that.

But I can't blame Hawks. If not for putting down Twice there the whole situation would have become a disaster. Now I still expect events to become disastrous. I don't think there is anyone that's a match for Tomura in his current state and if that monster gets rolling that's another character that doesn't have many matches with All Might retired. But if Twice was also on a rampage it would have been a nightmare. Not sure if things will work out for Hawks since...he's in a bad situation with a lot of targets pointed right at him. But...well good luck to him.

These episodes have been really good. But I wonder if it's a bad sign that Deku just doesn't show up at all...and I don't really mind .
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Old 2022-10-16, 06:40   Link #28
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Was it a bad sign that Hunter X Hunter was so great even when Gon & Killua disappeared for long stretches? Maybe it just means Horikoshi is really good at writing supporting characters.
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Old 2022-10-16, 08:21   Link #29
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Was it a bad sign that Hunter X Hunter was so great even when Gon & Killua disappeared for long stretches? Maybe it just means Horikoshi is really good at writing supporting characters.
More writers could learn a thing or two.
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Old 2022-10-16, 10:57   Link #30
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But I can't blame Hawks.
I can blame him for not putting him down decisively faster... But I get it.
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Old 2022-10-16, 16:52   Link #31
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Sometimes I feel like this show wants you to like the villains a bit too much, I get trying to get you to understand them and their motives, but it becomes a bit jarring when it tries way too hard to paint them as characters that should be equally as likeable as the heroes... at least in my opinion.
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Old 2022-10-16, 17:05   Link #32
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Sometimes I feel like this show wants you to like the villains a bit too much, I get trying to get you to understand them and their motives, but it becomes a bit jarring when it tries way too hard to paint them as characters that should be equally as likeable as the heroes... at least in my opinion.
Pretty sure that only really applies to Twice and Spinner. While the author REALLY wants you to sympathize with Tomura, it doesn't really work. Nor does anyone else, really. Everyone but those two are just unrepentant assholes.

Hell, Toga's only likeable because she's an element of absolute chaos and randomness that gets injected into otherwise serious hero scenes.
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Old 2022-10-16, 17:08   Link #33
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Sometimes I feel like this show wants you to like the villains a bit too much, I get trying to get you to understand them and their motives, but it becomes a bit jarring when it tries way too hard to paint them as characters that should be equally as likeable as the heroes... at least in my opinion.
Twice is one of my favorite antagonists and character overall in the series. That said, Hawks did nothing wrong here.
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Pretty sure that only really applies to Twice and Spinner. While the author REALLY wants you to sympathize with Tomura, it doesn't really work. Nor does anyone else, really. Everyone but those two are just unrepentant assholes.

Hell, Toga's only likeable because she's an element of absolute chaos and randomness that gets injected into otherwise serious hero scenes.
I disagree in regards to Tomura. While he's not as likeable as Twice, I sympathize with what happened to him. Had a horrible home life, his quirk manifested in the worst possible way, not to mention the quirk itself makes it virtually impossible for him to be physical with other people. Then he was picked up off the street and raised by a pseudo fascist. It shouldn't be that surprising he turned out the way he did. Similar to Twice he was also a victim of circumstance. Of course that doesn't excuse or erase his actions, no more then it does Twice's.
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Old 2022-10-16, 17:48   Link #35
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Twice just wanted a place to belong when everyone else rejected him and he couldn't even trust himself. Tomura wants to burn everything down and doesn't care about anything else.

Sure, you can understand why Tomura's like that, but that doesn't make him sympathetic nor likeable, whereas Twice is both.

Every member of the League of Villains (except maybe Compress, and not counting AFO or his doctor) is part of it because society failed them, so you understand why they turned out the way they did. But that alone doesn't make them sympathetic or likeable.
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Pretty sure that only really applies to Twice and Spinner. While the author REALLY wants you to sympathize with Tomura, it doesn't really work. Nor does anyone else, really. Everyone but those two are just unrepentant assholes.

Hell, Toga's only likeable because she's an element of absolute chaos and randomness that gets injected into otherwise serious hero scenes.
I'm with you there. The show really tried with Tomura...but I didn't sympathize with him. Though I kind of agree with the idea that the show tries too hard to make the audience sympathize with the villains. Something that really fails with Tomura. He's an evil psychopath with a somewhat sad backstory.

Twice works as a sympathetic character. Has a lot of good qualities that are utterly wasted with the mostly evil people he's surrounded by. But it mostly is just him. It wouldn't have been hard to keep Toga from going off the rails. But she's far too crazy to direct her energies in a positive way at this point.
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Old 2022-10-16, 18:48   Link #37
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Twice just wanted a place to belong when everyone else rejected him and he couldn't even trust himself. Tomura wants to burn everything down and doesn't care about anything else.

Sure, you can understand why Tomura's like that, but that doesn't make him sympathetic nor likeable, whereas Twice is both.

Every member of the League of Villains (except maybe Compress, and not counting AFO or his doctor) is part of it because society failed them, so you understand why they turned out the way they did. But that alone doesn't make them sympathetic or likeable.
Twice also didn't have a sociopath filling his head with visions of grandeur since he was a kid, so again agree to disagree. A character can be sympathetic even if you don't find them likeable. Sympathy is just feelings of pity and sorrow for someone else's misfortune. And Tomura's past circumstances were unfortunate. I sympathize with what happened to him, that doesn't change that what he did was wrong and he needs to be stopped.
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Old 2022-10-16, 20:34   Link #38
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Yeah, I mean - you can not like Tomura but to say his backstory is almost “somewhat sad”? I’d hate to see your definition of tragic.
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Old 2022-10-17, 01:10   Link #39
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Yeah, I mean - you can not like Tomura but to say his backstory is almost “somewhat sad”? I’d hate to see your definition of tragic.
I would say the problem with Tomura's backstory is that it bends over backwards so much to make you feel sorry for him that it busts through tragic and hits contrived. It compares to actual sadness like cheese food compares to actual cheese.

That is why I would call it “somewhat sad”,not to put words in FlareKnight's mouth.
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Old 2022-10-30, 01:35   Link #40
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A word to writers: Please don't make your villains or antagonists overly OP, that only ends up railroading you into needing to create a bullshit reason for the good guys to win and suspending the disbelief of the audience when it comes to the power scaling on each side of the battle.

Shigaraki has become so powerful that anytime that someone isn't just constantly and instantly disintegrating in his vecinity, blocks away even, it will feel like bullshit that anyone can even get close to him much less touch him.

Now the solution will have to probably be some sort of bullshit that only One for All can conveniently do, my bet will be on having the ability to copy other powers or something similar which will make Deku gain Eri's power for some reason which will let him be able to stand up to the decay, because it's the only ability that exists that can do anything against that bs.
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