2011-01-31, 17:02 | Link #41 | |
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You were the one who said he responded to her heart. So when did Kyubei appear to wannabe mahou shoujos in the series?
Mami because he responded to her heart (BUT did not know her yet) Sayaka because he responded to her heart at the very point the guy acted up And you implicitly agree he can teleport because you disagree he was following them or spying on them in any way Quote:
So far he has not really been doing anything noticably suspicious to the characters in the anime. Sure viewers see it since the lighting is used to portray sinister feelings but so far he has been doing things a would be expected. Shut up when Mami rebuked him on pressuring them? Done. Asked them to contract with him when Mami lost her head? Done. Walked away then showed up later? Done. All quite reasonable except for showing up EXACTLY when its time to sign that contract Yes because things happen and wishes are only a bandaid, not a cure. That hand cured? Sure until he falls down and breaks it or injures it seriously again or shatters his leg or loses his right hand, etc tec. Feeling great because you "sacrificed" yourself for him? Well that lasts about a few minutes. Fighting witches? Well that lasts about the rest of your short life. Final result = STUPID |
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2011-01-31, 17:18 | Link #42 | ||||
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He probably possesses some sort of radar to know where all MG's and potential MG's are, then head in their direction. No idea how fast he can move, though. Through some sort of nebulous magical link, he can probably get a decent read on their feelings, similar to how telepathy works. Thus, he probably sensed Mami wishing to live, and showed up to offer her a contract, as it was the only way to save her. Then he sensed Sayaka wanted to make a contract and had a firm wish in mind, and thus he was there. Quote:
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If you were in an accident that paralyzed you from the waste down, would you want to be cured? Or would you take the angle: "Well, I'm paralyzed, and it's stupid to get cured when it will teach me something good!" ? I suspect I know the answer, but I'd like to hear it. Just a note that most people would probably choose to be cured, so you'll have to accept your viewpoint is in the minority. |
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2011-01-31, 17:35 | Link #43 | |||
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But again, it a big neon sign saying "I help you only if i gain" Quote:
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After adjustment, it becomes desirable, not critical. The wish then becomes iffy Now you should have asked, if i would cure someone close to me from paralysis. I would say depends. Is it terminal? If so how long? If its only waist down, sorry, i would rather spend the rest of my life making sure that person is ok rather than dying and leaving them alone without support. |
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2011-01-31, 17:45 | Link #44 | ||
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Interesting, I think I'm beginning to understand you better...
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But then you say this... Quote:
Anyway, this conversation has veered off Madoka, and into Sayaka territory, and even drifted far off that. So to bring it back a bit... we only got here, because of the statement that Sayaka made a brave choice in becoming an MG, regardless of what kind of wish she made. It was a choice that Madoka couldn't make. Last edited by Daniel E.; 2011-02-01 at 12:39. Reason: Let us not get personal over this! |
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2011-01-31, 18:30 | Link #45 |
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Well... at least the Madoka topic now has enough discussion in it to match the other character topics... even if it's mostly arguments and Sayaka talk. =/
Anyway, I kind of hope Madoka doesn't become a magical girl. It's possible that she won't go through the same kind of thing Mami went through, but I've never really wanted to see her actually become a magical girl under these circumstances. Risking your entire life for a single wish? There's not even a time limit to it, I could see if you had to be a magical girl for x amount of years, but the rest of your life is a bit much. I wouldn't mind if Madoka never turns into a magical girl just because she's my favorite and I'm afraid of what'd happen to her. Part of me thinks nobody in the cast is going to survive through this series. .__.;
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2011-01-31, 18:53 | Link #46 | |
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2011-02-01, 06:45 | Link #47 | |
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You need to recognize the fundamental difference between donation (what you are advocating) and sacrifice (what Madoka would have to do). No one has the right to request sacrifice. |
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2011-02-01, 10:12 | Link #49 |
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Though I hate speculation (because most of the time, it ends up with people fighting with each other to prove who's right base on pretty much... nothing), i've just rewatched the ending (cause i like the song...) and i'm asking myself :
Is there anyone who maybe thought of Madoka not being just a sweet girl ? I have read the time loop theory among other things, and Mentar speculations about how she could become a real magical girl. But as she's seen in... what i think is Mephistopheles' eye at the end of the credits, I don't know if i must think of the interest such an entity put on this girl, or if by some plot device, something darker was turned into that adorable and loving character ? What if she can put an end to this all MG/witch war (like it is kinda said in the prologue in Episode 1), because she started it ? |
2011-02-01, 11:30 | Link #50 | |
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2011-02-01, 11:37 | Link #51 | |
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Madoka : "What ?" Kyubey : "I am your father..." Madoka : "That's it, i'm done, i'm finishing you off right now..." Last edited by Sageblink; 2011-02-01 at 23:24. |
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2011-02-03, 20:41 | Link #54 | ||
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Well as expected. If this continues poor Madoka will become a mahou shojo and condemn herself for an idiot. Fortunately Homura seems to have caught on in time LULZ! Last edited by FlavorOfLife; 2011-02-03 at 21:42. |
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2011-02-03, 21:03 | Link #55 |
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Yes, come on Madoka! Stop trying to be like that idiot who is fighting to protect the people of the town! Instead, you should be like Homura and Kyoka, and only fight for yourself. Madoka, you really need to become a selfish bitch, and either not get involved with anyone else and not care if they die, or if you are gonna become a Magical girl, then you should do it because you want grief seeds and a wish for yourself!
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2011-02-03, 21:05 | Link #56 | |
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2011-02-03, 21:12 | Link #57 |
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With the revelation that familiars are what turns into witches, the only way I see a non-selfish bitch as you put it succeeding here is if they can dismantle the entire system.
After all, without grief seeds (and being a righteous doer of justice, you'll go kill off all those evil familiars before they become witches of course), leaving you kind of out of luck there in terms of getting grief seeds. Maybe their soul gems only fade from using their magic power. For some reason, I doubt it. Maybe Madoka's ultimate fate is indeed to break this system. I guess we'll have to see. |
2011-02-03, 22:27 | Link #58 | |
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2011-02-04, 02:07 | Link #60 | |
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