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Ddraig · 2012-09-16, 20:00

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Originally Posted by blackwhite67

V8C4 was just done and before someone asks, no one bothers preparing healing potions for Godou because then there would be one less reason to make out with him.

BTW, for clarification Godou's authority is one of [Steel], right?

I believe not since he will have to usurp the authority from <Steel> gods or goddesses but so far Godou only usurp authority from Verethragna which is a Persian god of light, victory and fire . There is no mention of him relate to steel anywhere.

XFire · 2012-09-16, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Ddraig

I believe not since he will have to usurp the authority from <Steel> gods or goddesses but so far Godou only usurp authority from Verethragna which is a Persian god of light, victory and fire . There is no mention of him relate to steel anywhere.

The new update in vol 8 gives us an actual definition of <Steel>.

Spoiler for By Alec:

Verethragna most definitely fits.

Phoenix221186 · 2012-09-16, 22:36

VERETRAGHNA fits 3 out of 4 right ?? ( does he fit the god of military ?? )

so does he have to have the 4 or just one to be consider steel ??

Mars Mode · 2012-09-16, 22:50

They were born for battle

Verethragna was born as a god of light that protects travelers, through his might he won the atribute of victory and was revered as a war god.

XFire · 2012-09-16, 23:00

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Originally Posted by Phoenix221186

VERETRAGHNA fits 3 out of 4 right ?? ( does he fit the god of military ?? )

so does he have to have the 4 or just one to be consider steel ??

VERETHRAGNA is a god of war and battle, and is the giver of victory. Which one could imply to mean military might. However, I think Alec just meant war god, rather than those being necessary attributes.

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Originally Posted by Mars Mode

They were born for battle

Verethragna was born as a god of light that protects travelers, through his might he won the atribute of victory and was revered as a war god.

He had the ten forms from the beginning, including the warrior, so I think it still counts. Regardless, Heretic Verethragna was most definitely born for battle, since there seems to be some difference between original and heretic forms of gods.

Mars Mode · 2012-09-16, 23:24

Well it has been said that [war] and [steel] are diferent attributes and it has also been said they are [swords] that were crated for battle.

Although heretic he remained as a god of [victory] and [protection] even when his others authorities were stripped from him. As was shown by the remain of the [warrior] and the [wind]

kuroishinigami · 2012-09-16, 23:53

I doubt v-san is actually a steel God. I mean, weakness toward extreme heat is supposed to be also a common point for steel god, but v-san can summon a freaking sun and not melt.

XFire · 2012-09-17, 00:06

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Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

I doubt v-san is actually a steel God. I mean, weakness toward extreme heat is supposed to be also a common point for steel god, but v-san can summon a freaking sun and not melt.

He was killed by the sun, though...

kuroishinigami · 2012-09-17, 00:14

After being weakened severely from using two swords and fighting mel-jiisan's weapon. Anyway, we'll never know for sure until it's addressed by the author, but IMO, v-san is not one due to lack of connection with any kind of steel from what we've shown so far.

xBakaChanx · 2012-09-17, 00:39

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Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

I doubt v-san is actually a steel God. I mean, weakness toward extreme heat is supposed to be also a common point for steel god, but v-san can summon a freaking sun and not melt.

I think his power to summon a sun comes from him being the guardian/servant of mitra, the god of light who is also the incarnation of the sun, so Verethragna and the sun have a pretty deep relationship with each other. So it's cause of that relationship that the sun don't harm him and he is able to use that power(?)
If steel have the definition of

Spoiler for LN:

Then i guess Verethragna have that aspect, as he is also know as the "Persian warlord."

alviam099 · 2012-09-17, 00:47

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So far the only Campione that normal people (normal people as in non magicians) can kill is Goduo.
Not much of a threat as a devil king if he can use any of his powers on normal people.

Can't he just use [Ram] when he's being beaten and ought to die?

xBakaChanx · 2012-09-17, 00:53

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Originally Posted by alviam099

Can't he just use [Ram] when he's being beaten and ought to die?

Ram just heals Godou when he's at a near death situation, it's not really meant for fighting? so there's not really a point to that except for saving his life at critical times. Even though the author describes Godou as "a protagonist who only have "Ultimate attacks"", the condition for all his abilities is not meant to use on normal people. I guess he can still use the "camel" if he suffered enough injuries against normal people tho

alviam099 · 2012-09-17, 00:57

Basically, if he's being beaten up by normal people and he's going to die by it, I think it can still be considered as a near death situation.

xBakaChanx · 2012-09-17, 01:02

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Originally Posted by alviam099

Basically, if he's being beaten up by normal people and he's going to die by it, I think it can still be considered as a near death situation.

In that mode he will be vulnerable for a few hours, and I'm sure the normal people can just kill him at the time, it won't help much unless someone go and rescue him.

alviam099 · 2012-09-17, 01:09

I knew pretty much that, I was just asking if [Ram] really was applicable.

xBakaChanx · 2012-09-17, 01:13

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Originally Posted by alviam099

I knew pretty much that, I was just asking if [Ram] really was applicable.

It's any near death situation, so I would have to say yes.
Sry if I misunderstood you earlier.

alviam099 · 2012-09-17, 01:24

No problem, by the way, why didn't Verethragna use [Ram] when Godou defeated him? I think he could have used it, but didn't.

xBakaChanx · 2012-09-17, 01:40

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Originally Posted by alviam099

No problem, by the way, why didn't Verethragna use [Ram] when Godou defeated him? I think he could have used it, but didn't.

Excuse me if I get this wrong, been a while since I last read it but in Vol 3

Spoiler for LN:

kuroishinigami · 2012-09-17, 02:23

And 1 more thing. Ram activated near death. We can just assume that white stallion killed v-san instantly, hence no time to use the ram.

Kadi · 2012-09-17, 02:23

Spoiler for V3:

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alviam099 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	Basically, if he's being beaten up by normal people and he's going to die by it, I think it can still be considered as a near death situation. __________________

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alviam099 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	I knew pretty much that, I was just asking if [Ram] really was applicable. __________________

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alviam099 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	No problem, by the way, why didn't Verethragna use [Ram] when Godou defeated him? I think he could have used it, but didn't. __________________

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Kadi 知識の探求者 Join Date: Feb 2012	Spoiler for V3: For one, it's right that Verethragna was looking for someone to defeat him. Still, you can argue the Ram is part of him. For two, Verethragna was using the Goat at the time, trying to fry Godou in return. And Verethragna did not use 2 authorities at the same time, ever, so the Ram must have been blocked.

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Mars Mode Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	They were born for battle Verethragna was born as a god of light that protects travelers, through his might he won the atribute of victory and was revered as a war god.

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Mars Mode Senior Member Join Date: May 2011	Well it has been said that [war] and [steel] are diferent attributes and it has also been said they are [swords] that were crated for battle. Although heretic he remained as a god of [victory] and [protection] even when his others authorities were stripped from him. As was shown by the remain of the [warrior] and the [wind]

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kuroishinigami Ava courtesy of patchy Join Date: Jan 2009	I doubt v-san is actually a steel God. I mean, weakness toward extreme heat is supposed to be also a common point for steel god, but v-san can summon a freaking sun and not melt.

2012-09-17, 00:14	Link #3989
kuroishinigami Ava courtesy of patchy Join Date: Jan 2009	After being weakened severely from using two swords and fighting mel-jiisan's weapon. Anyway, we'll never know for sure until it's addressed by the author, but IMO, v-san is not one due to lack of connection with any kind of steel from what we've shown so far.

2012-09-17, 02:23	Link #3999
kuroishinigami Ava courtesy of patchy Join Date: Jan 2009	And 1 more thing. Ram activated near death. We can just assume that white stallion killed v-san instantly, hence no time to use the ram.