(CR) Amaama to Inazuma (Sweetness and Lightning)

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by FredFriendly

Looks like we're never going to agree about this.

I don't agree that it is his fault that "she felt that it was the right thing to do." I know from experience that, even if you teach your children the difference from "right" and "wrong" that they will decide to do what they think is best, regardless of what they have been taught. Kids are not programmable robots who will only do, say, and act as they have been taught.

Which is why I think it's irresponsible to leave them to their own devices, which is what Kouhei did. Several times.

Like you said, kids aren't little robots. So what makes you think just telling her to watch a DVD was fulfilling his duties as a parent?

And, how do you know she wasn't taught what to do under adverse circumstances?

I think it'd have come up if she had.

You think it's okay for her to have left on her own under these circumstances, I don't.

I don't think it's okay for a child that young to leave the home on her own. But I also think, because I can be nuanced that way, that it was wrong and avoidable for her to be in those circumstances in the first place.

You seem to think that, no matter what, an adult who is physically present within the "guardian zone" of a child can prevent all foreseeable and unforeseeable incidents by planning ahead. They can't.

Maybe not everything. But do you really think she'd have left if an adult was there?

And I do think adults have responsibilities toward their children. Even if they can't do everything, there's a minimum to do, and in this instance, Kouhei fell short.

Instead of laying a heavy coating of blame on the dad, how about admonishing the stupid brat teenager-in-love for not having an iota of concern that this very young child was far from home all by herself without her father knowing where she was, yet acting like everything was rosey 'cause she now had an excuse for spending some lovey-lovey time with the dad?

How about paying attention? Her plan wasn't to "spend some lovey-lovey time with the dad", it was to walk Tsumugi to her neighborhood and let her walk alone the rest of the way. (A plan with which I have my own problems, but whatever.)

But she did try to butt in as if she was an important, authoritative member of the family. The little brat was wrong to do what she did and needed to be disciplined. There is no way in hell I would have listened to that teenage brat tell me how to discipline my child.

He was just taking out his fear on Tsumugi. Unavoidable, but did you notice how much better his message passed once they'd both calmed down?

[Gan_HOPE326]

Originally Posted by FredFriendly

You think it's okay for her to have left on her own under these circumstances, I don't.

I think the point is more that, if her dad had been near death (imagine he fell and hit his head seriously and was unconscious), then going out to ask for help would have definitely been the right thing to do for her, risks be damned. Though of course some basic training of the sort "look, if someone is very sick you just go to the phone, press these keys, and call an ambulance" would have solved a lot of problems. Then again, hindsight is 20/20, sometimes you just don't think that much ahead. Kouhei is trying but it's clear to me that one of the points of the story is that he's also learning how to be a full-time parent, and learning comes with making mistakes.

[orion]

Originally Posted by Kakurin-san

Oh come on, now it's the father's fault for "making a scene" and not making preparations (and she would've needed to know Kotori's number the first place)? Tsumugi's the one who made a mistake. She at least should've left a note saying she went to Kotori's place. That's just spoiling a child if you try to deflect all criticism from her, they'll never learn if you keep them in a bubble.

Tsumugi is 6.

It's her dad's fault ultimately. The buck stops with him. He's the only parent she has. He's suppose to properly lock the door so she can't get out. Teach her how to use a phone in cases of emergencies and give her a cell phone. Put her name and phone number in her clothes in case she gets lost.

Have the fridge stocked with food. Remember to feed his kid even if he's sick. (This would have prevented the episode.)

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326

I think the point is more that, if her dad had been near death (imagine he fell and hit his head seriously and was unconscious), then going out to ask for help would have definitely been the right thing to do for her, risks be damned. Though of course some basic training of the sort "look, if someone is very sick you just go to the phone, press these keys, and call an ambulance" would have solved a lot of problems. Then again, hindsight is 20/20, sometimes you just don't think that much ahead. Kouhei is trying but it's clear to me that one of the points of the story is that he's also learning how to be a full-time parent, and learning comes with making mistakes.

Originally Posted by orion

Tsumugi is 6.

It's her dad's fault ultimately. The buck stops with him. He's the only parent she has. He's suppose to properly lock the door so she can't get out. Teach her how to use a phone in cases of emergencies and give her a cell phone. Put her name and phone number in her clothes in case she gets lost.

Have the fridge stocked with food. Remember to feed his kid even if he's sick. (This would have prevented the episode.)

Yes. Those are the things I've been trying to say.

[kuromitsu]

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326

Then again, hindsight is 20/20, sometimes you just don't think that much ahead. Kouhei is trying but it's clear to me that one of the points of the story is that he's also learning how to be a full-time parent, and learning comes with making mistakes.

Yep, exactly how I see it, too. There's so many things that Kouhei also has to learn that don't involve food. Planning ahead for unexpected situations like this is one of them. He never expected to be in this situation, but now it happened, thankfully nothing bad happened, and they all learned from it.

[FlareKnight]

Yeah, mistakes were made. Some things you just don't think of until they happen. Luckily the consequences weren't severe. So it's a learning experience, but not a costly one.

Hopefully will realize that there will be times when he is sick or hurt. Should talk to her about what steps to take in those circumstances. Just a few people to call in an emergency would be good.

Such is life. Tsumugi tried to do something good. But sometimes kids get in trouble even when they have the best intentions.

At least the episode did have some nice moments. For some reason had a good laugh from Kotori trying to salvage the situation. A kind of "oh crap, this is bad...I gotta fix this somehow" moment. Hard for her to just step into a family situation, but obviously wants everyone to get along so.....rice!

[Pen3]

The only problem with this show is that we only have 3 main characters. They happen to be in either their apartment or the restaurant. It does get old quick no matter how cute and sweet it is.

[Stark700]

Episode 8

Nice episode, we got some seafood. Tsugumi's curiosity was fun to see especially with that delusion of the Giant Squid.

I think the episode did a good job at the food making process as well especially in regards to the mechanics. Not a fan of seafood myself but they made that look good. Delicious! The telephone game was funny, loved how Mikio made a scene in front of everyone.

Oh poor Mikio. DENIED by Tsugumi!

Spoiler:

[Yamada II]

Episode 8

So Inuzuka takes time out to go to Tsumugi's bring your parent to school day. And he's the only man there as every other kid's mother is there for obvious reasons. Lol Tsumugi rejects Mikio big time. Tough luck kid. Lol Inuzuka's reaction to when Tsumugi told him what Mikio said.

And we see Tsumugi wanting to keep her bag no matter what because it was made by her mother and she wants to keep it as a memento. Inuzuka didn't know that she thought like that. She really misses her mother but doesn't show it on her face. And Inuzuka also tries his best to keep Tsumugi happy so that she doesn't feel like anything is missing or something. And they cook squid which ends up tasting almost exactly like how Mrs. Inuzuka made it back in the days.

[Gan_HOPE326]

"I was about to have an epiphany"

That was... an unexpectedly weird thing to hear from a child .

[Flower]

Originally Posted by Gan_HOPE326

"I was about to have an epiphany"

That was... an unexpectedly weird thing to hear from a child .

Agreed.

I also really enjoyed the experience papa and kiddo had in preparing the squid ... especially how touching the squid like that totally knocked out poor Tsugumi.

[HayashiTakara]

Just because american kids go get themselves killed and kidnapped, that doesn't apply to the rest of the world.

The US is the most dangerous 1st world country to live in, and the kids are dumber then dog shit, it's an unfair comparison.

[Master_Yoma]

So squid this time it was kind of mean of Kouhei to have Tsumugi do that to

Kotori kind of over reacts

[FlareKnight]

Another nice one. Sorry Mikio, might be too late to try and restore your reputation .

I do wonder if we're closing in on an episode for Kotori to take a big step in overcoming her personal trauma.

Regardless was a nice episode for bringing up Tsumugi's mother again and having an attempt to recreate that familiar taste.

[Wandering Soul]

Sorry Mikio, but you have no one to blame but yourself for that reaction.

[Brother Coa]

Mugi is so cruel. xD But at least her refusal made dad happy.

Nice episode overall, and I had Ika-Musune vibe the entire time for some reason.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by HayashiTakara

Just because american kids go get themselves killed and kidnapped, that doesn't apply to the rest of the world.

The US is the most dangerous 1st world country to live in, and the kids are dumber then dog shit, it's an unfair comparison.

Yea it's like these guys have never heard of the term Cultural Differences. The mistake many people make when learning about new cultures is using there own as a yard stick to measures the others.

[SeijiSensei]

I laughed at the opening with Kouhei and all the mothers. Been there, done that. The mothers around me weren't as into making kawaii items for their kids to bring to school. Sure there was competition, but we did fine just buying from stores like L.L. Bean. Still I admired Kouhei's decision to add the patch and was impressed with the precision and evenness of his stitching!

I continue to be puzzled about his apparent total isolation from any supportive family members, co-workers, or friends. Don't any of the other teachers have kids and might go out with Kouhei and Tsumugi some weekend afternoon? Why aren't all the women around him trying to find him a new wife? You'd think some of them would have single female friends. Or has he simply isolated himself in extended mourning over his loss? Eating nice meals with Kotori is a start, but he needs some new friends his own age.

Also where is the late Inuzuka-san's family in all of this? When Kotori asks him whether there is an "Inuzuka family recipe" for the dish his wife made, he quickly answers no. Does that mean his wife never wrote down the recipe nor preserved a family heirloom handed down from her mother? Kouhei never mentions his mother-in-law as a possible source for the recipe. It seems unlikely that his in-laws would have abandoned him when their daughter died unless they, too, were dead already or somehow held him responsible, for which I see no evidence so far. And was Inuzuka-san an only child as well?

Kouhei seems to have no siblings, no parents, no in-laws, and only one friend other than Kotori. Daikichi in Usagi Drop had both family and friends to draw on. Kouhei's isolation feels like a plot artifice to me.

Originally Posted by Yamada II

And we see Tsumugi wanting to keep her bag no matter what because it was made by her mother and she wants to keep it as a memento. Inuzuka didn't know that she thought like that.

My parental intuition clicked in before Kouhei's. I knew immediately why she didn't want a new one.

These more extended scenes between Kouhei and Tsumugi were the best part of this episode. Usually they spend more time at the restaurant, but this week they let the family drama play out more. I liked that.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by SeijiSensei

I laughed at the opening with Kouhei and all the mothers. Been there, done that. The mothers around me weren't as into making kawaii items for their kids to bring to school. Sure there was competition, but we did fine just buying from stores like L.L. Bean. Still I admired Kouhei's decision to add the patch and was impressed with the precision and evenness of his stitching!

I continue to be puzzled about his apparent total isolation from any supportive family members, co-workers, or friends. Don't any of the other teachers have kids and might go out with Kouhei and Tsumugi some weekend afternoon? Why aren't all the women around him trying to find him a new wife? You'd think some of them would have single female friends. Or has he simply isolated himself in extended mourning over his loss? Eating nice meals with Kotori is a start, but he needs some new friends his own age.

I think we've seen in ep1 that his colleagues, at least, try to help him, but he's reticent to accept help. Kotori got in because it was more of an exchange, she needed help too. And Yagi because he's known him since high school. But he didn't call either of them when he got sick, which should have qualified as an emergency need for a baby sitter.

[SeijiSensei]

The only one he could have called was Yagi. Kotori was in class and couldn't tell the teacher she had to go and take care of Tsumugi-chan. It would have, at a minimum, raised some eyebrows among the staff. This is the girl that only talks to Kouhei through a window after all.

Having only one go-to person isn't enough in his situation. He needs to befriend at least one or two of the preschool mothers, have some play dates together, and build up trust so they can share responsibility for each others' kids in emergency situations. I'm surprised they aren't reaching out to him more if they know he's a young widower.