Angel Beats! - Episode 9 Discussion / Poll

[Hypernova]

Originally Posted by guuchan

That's why I said "most", but the thing is, even if your parents don't care, it's considered to be unfilial if you have your parents ending up in the situation (same for your offsprings having you ending up in the situation of being donated), so either way, with both common practice and social pressure, the cycle continues and hence it becomes a rare thing to become an "after-death" donator. Now, if you donate your organs while you're alive, that's a different story.

If my parent's don't care, I don't care. If I don't care, my off springs shouldn't either. You're dead, instead of have it go to waste as compost might as well make use of it. Donating while you are still alive is a very different thing that actually do take altruism since you still need the thing. The only after-death donation I might hesitate are full body ones for med school. The sight of some female med student admiring my 10" wang is a little embarrassing

[Khu]

...

10 inch = scary.

Anyway.

Fulfilling episode. Really enlightened the situation...

however...

THE KANADE x YUZURU IS OOZING LIKE OH MY GOD CAN IT GET ANY SAPPIER

(actually it could, if they actually ki----)

[NeruNeru]

Fantastic episode! Haven't cried that much for a long time. When I first got my health insurance card here in Japan, I didn't know how to fill it out, but after seeing this episode, I got it out and did it like in the show. Thanks, Otonashi!

This episode straightened out a lot of things, but now I'm curious as to why Otonashi ended up there in the first place. He wanted to save people, and he did that by becoming an organ donor. So wouldn't he be without regrets at that point? Now it's different because he wants to save Yurippe and the rest, but back then, it seems like he would have been able to skip that purgatory.

[guuchan]

Originally Posted by Hypernova

If my parent's don't care, I don't care. If I don't care, my off springs shouldn't either. You're dead, instead of have it go to waste as compost might as well make use of it. Donating while you are still alive is a very different thing that actually do take altruism since you still need the thing. The only after-death donation I might hesitate are full body ones for med school. The sight of some female med student admiring my 10" wang is a little embarrassing

Heh.

While time is moving forward, things change. Comparatively speaking people care less these days, but cultural thing is in your blood. My point is, people seem to discredit the scene because of reason like "oh, you should have signed that to begin with like you should brush your teeth in the morning". Even in western countries it's not quite the case (I work a job of which I get to see plenty of IDs everyday, and I can tell you I see more non-donors than the other way round), so let alone the more conservative countries like Japan.

[BloodyKitty]

This episode was the best of Angel Beats! so far. Well done, Maeda Jun. Another one of your stories made me cry again.

Judging from the face Yuri made in the end of the episode, I doubt if she's already known Kanade's intention...

[Marcus H.]

Actually, this episode still doesn't answer the question regarding why he lost his memories in the first place.

But this episode SHOULD dispel any thoughts of Yuri doing this for the fun of it.
She's clearly blaming herself for whatever happened to Kanade.

Kudos, Maeda Jun-san, for that. And everything else. (owo)b

[SirusRiddler]

I don't think I'm the only one who felt some LOST vibes in that episode. :3

I found the emergency rescuers taking so long to be pretty strange. This is Japan, earthquake country...rescuers would be on a tunnel collapse in a second flat. Responses in "Tokyo Magnitude 8.0" were immediate and continuous. It shouldn't have taken them a whole week to get through to the victims. It must have been one hell of an accident.

For the sake of an emotional story though, I'll take it.

[GDB]

Originally Posted by NeruNeru

This episode straightened out a lot of things, but now I'm curious as to why Otonashi ended up there in the first place. He wanted to save people, and he did that by becoming an organ donor. So wouldn't he be without regrets at that point? Now it's different because he wants to save Yurippe and the rest, but back then, it seems like he would have been able to skip that purgatory.

I'd say, due to nutrient deprivation, he wasn't able to keep his mind together that well. Especially since such a death led to amnesia, which Yuri stated only happened (to her knowledge) to those who had bad head injuries at death.

Originally Posted by SirusRiddler

I don't think I'm the only one who felt some LOST vibes in that episode. :3

I actually started fearing a Lord of the Flies effect, especially when the guy stole the water.

Originally Posted by SirusRiddler

I found the emergency rescuers taking so long to be pretty strange. This is Japan, earthquake country...rescuers would be on a tunnel collapse in a second flat. Responses in "Tokyo Magnitude 8.0" were immediate and continuous. It shouldn't have taken them a whole week to get through to the victims. It must have been one hell of an accident.

For the sake of an emotional story though, I'll take it.

Well, since it was collapsed on both ends of the tunnel, I'd assume there were a lot of areas that collapsed. They just got unlucky in being one of the ones that took longer the get to.

[Kakkou]

Besides, we never got told WHY the train crashed. For all we know, the delay could have been because the crash resulted from an earthquake, which happens in Japan every now and then. That would explain why the rescue team took so long: they had more things to deal with than a collapsed tunnel.

[Archangel Roy]

This was just...Beautiful! This episode was truly AMAZING!

Spoiler for Episode 9:

I am so GLAD that Kanade ended up good.

Yuzuru x Kanade? DEFINITELY!

Spoiler for Episode 9 Beginning:

I cried with tears of joy when Kanade woke up!

[Fandal]

Doesn't this basically mean Otonashi is going to be betraying Yuri? Will Yuri figure out why things happened the way they do?

[SirusRiddler]

Originally Posted by GDB

I'd say, due to nutrient deprivation, he wasn't able to keep his mind together that well. Especially since such a death led to amnesia, which Yuri stated only happened (to her knowledge) to those who had bad head injuries at death.



I actually started fearing a Lord of the Flies effect, especially when the guy stole the water.



Well, since it was collapsed on both ends of the tunnel, I'd assume there were a lot of areas that collapsed. They just got unlucky in being one of the ones that took longer the get to.

You got a fair point there. For some reason, I just figured it was only that train that had an accident but it could be that the whole train line ran into a big problem.

[Ravenblitz]

oh man 10/10 episode! loved the drama! though i would loved to see yuzuru hug kanade when she woke up, damn it didn't happened.

wow next episode/s the SSS brigade will be loosing some men... to think Yuri, Yuzuru and Kanade will be the last standing

[jinnous]

Really a satisfying episode for me, especially after the events of episode 8. There seem to be a discussion going on about the whole rescue team thing. But I guess here's my take at it:

Some point during episode 7 you could see the train Otonashi was on, and from my recollections train routes who use that type of train model are usually ones that go from major city --> rural country side areas. So i suppose the accident occurred in a fairly non-populated location and that the train schedule is not entirely tight, thus explaining why it might of taken them a while to get there. But then again this is just my wild guess...

Apart from that I really liked the episode, especially with the whole OtonashixKanade scene. And I think for as dense as Kanade may look, she must have at least felt SOMETHING if a guy stays by her side for that whole time she's unconscious.

Spoiler for ending:

At the end of the episode I had a weird thought that Otonashi would just blush and say "Let's be together after this is all done and over"

[SirusRiddler]

Originally Posted by jinnous

Really a satisfying episode for me, especially after the events of episode 8. There seem to be a discussion going on about the whole rescue team thing. But I guess here's my take at it:

Some point during episode 7 you could see the train Otonashi was on, and from my recollections train routes who use that type of train model are usually ones that go from major city --> rural country side areas. So i suppose the accident occurred in a fairly non-populated location and that the train schedule is not entirely tight, thus explaining why it might of taken them a while to get there. But then again this is just my wild guess...

Apart from that I really liked the episode, especially with the whole OtonashixKanade scene. And I think for as dense as Kanade may look, she must have at least felt SOMETHING if a guy stays by her side for that whole time she's unconscious.

Spoiler for ending:

At the end of the episode I had a weird thought that Otonashi would just blush and say "Let's be together after this is all done and over"

The thing is, most universities in Japan are in big cities. Often the case is that a kid from the countryside takes the train into Tokyo for some prestigious school.

A lot of trains run by the JR company still use a lot of older model trains. It's the private subway companies that have newer looking ones actually. With that said, considering Yuzuru and company is in a tunnel collapse, they have to be in Tokyo.

I lived in Tokyo so that's my educated guess. It's not like Angel Beats is in the most realistic setting anyways. :P So a whole week for a rescue still sounds a little suspect to me unless it's the worst train accident since the Sarin Gas Incident.

[bhl88]

At least we know the way to erase Hinata. Make him catch a ball in a baseball game.

One last good bye kiss from Kanade before you disappear Otanoshi.

This story is so sad.... ToT

[Francismeunier]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

Though when kanade wakes up I was sure yuzuru would hug her .....well that's a bid of minus for me but it's all great.

That is exactly what I wanted and felt a little bit that it did not happen but I was still that Kanade past the hand on Yuzuru's cheek at least.

Originally Posted by Key Board

Otonashi reminds me of Shirou from Fate Stay Night

he has a severe saviour complex

he wants to save everyone.. no, he obssesses about it

but he's put in a situation where the goal is not to kill each other to survive, so his morality does not clash with the setting like Shirou

still, I wonder if this will make him truly happy in the end? because to me this path can only lead to one thing: he will become the new Tenshi of that purgatory

I agree with you about Shirou since I just Fate/Night Stay. Second I would much rather see the new love couple Tenshi x Otonashi than just Otonashi becoming the new Tenshi.....after all the love concept may be applied in this series just fine.

Originally Posted by Hypernova

Still, its hard to get moved by the scene when you realise that these guys didn't sign when they first got their cards and had to be inspired to do so. They make it as if there is some sort of stigma with agreeing to organ donation and it take will to do so.

Well it worked on me.....filled out mines today in France. Had to ask some information first but it all worked out.

[Kotohono]

Impressive episode, Yuzuru is truly an amazing character, rest of his past was pretty moving though didn't quite get me to cry. Also I find his "alliance" with Kaede to be interesting I really wonder how things will go with Yuri especially since she'll be blaming herself for what happened to Tenshi making it even hard to erase her regret. Though I'm really interested in getting past of Yui, Shiina, Yusa, and the girls of GirlsDeMo.

[Joachim]

Man.. i always like how maeda jun/key design the archetype for the male lead. They are far from typical anime male lead, in a good way.

[blitz1/2]

From Kanade's words, I wonder if it was actually her that received Otonashi's organs. But that would be a GREAT twist.