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You said that the european countries have a bloody history full of rascit wars and it's true. And it's the same for the African countries, the Asian countries, the amerindian ethnos between each other, etc. Quote:
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White country mean nothing. URSS was a white country, US is a white country, did this two country acted in the same way? You use this term because it allow you to say anything without any arguments. You want to speak about a country? Fine, name it. Just say white countries is rascist mean three thing : that the majority of people in all this countries are rascist, that all the country with a majority of white people act in the same way, and finally that the no-white countries are different. Beside a country isn't rascist, people are. If you say for example England is a rascist country, you say that the majority of the people in England are rascist. So if you speak about a government, say government, if you speak about a country, give his name. Quote:
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You know it's funny because I desagree with all his post, and I agree to say that their is a problem of rascism in US. But what you said is just worst than all his posts together. During all this thread you tried to look like a poor little boy attacked by bad bad people. The fact is you're the most instulting one. For the moment your only arguments is : I meet rascist people in america and suffer from their speach so white countries are rascist. You know what? it's not an argument it's bullshit. You said plenty of time now that the white are the center of the rascism, and you continue to say the same thing whereas one you shows that all the other countries have done the same kind of thing in one moment or another of their history. With exactly the same kind of reasoning I can say that the Asian are the center of rascism, brutality and slavery. There was countless wars, countless massacres in the history of Japan, China, Kampuchea, India, Korea, etc. Slavery existed here milleniums ago, in the last century Japanese killed millions of 'inferior' chinese, chinese killed douzen of millions of other 'inferior' chinese and 'inferior' Tibetain, Kampuchean was killed by millions by their own people too. Or how people can born inferior to the others in India because of their caste. The list is almost infinite and I could say the same about African country, european country, in fact about almost all the country in the world. But I will never say, the yellow countries (-_-) are the center of rascism, the black country are the most rascist one, because that doesn't mean anything and it's a rascist affirmation. |
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2003-11-21, 12:59 | Link #102 |
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Those wondering about the reason for America's attack on Iraq would do well to examine the plans that the neo-conservatives within the American administration, who have recently become far more powerful, were making several years ago. Unfortunately I don't have a convenient reference on me, but the gist of the plan is to establish an American military hegemony over the rest of the world, with the securing of reliable oil supplies being one of the necessary objectives. It's not good enough just to buy the oil because that's not reliable, an unfriendly country could suddenly refuse to sell it. And yes, America does have large domestic oil reserves, but they're still not nearly big enough to match its collosal oil demand.
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segregation of school happaned 30 yrs ago in the 70s. ppl are still alive that expierenced this. Some ppl cant read cuz of this. The Indians still live on reservation with birth defects, alcohol problems, and no money. i cant get a full citizenship just cause im from korea. im gonna have to wait another 20 yrs or so. i have to pay about 2000 more for college, and i cant get into the AirForce Academy or Naval Academy or Wespoint. Cause they dont accept non-citizens no matter how long ive been living here. (2 non-citizens a yr likely its gonna be me right?) racism exists today because of ppl like me? because im mad at how ppl treat me cuz of the fact that im from one of Bush's "axis of evil"? uh sorry, thats not the case. i cant vote im afraid i wont even get a driver's liscence. i still have to worry cause the GOVERNMENT (happy?) policies are like that. Quote:
the government also has this sort of "reverse" racism which is not really racism but some ppl call it that. Things like "we feel bad so colleges will be easier for u to get in" also things like the example above. i said white are center of racism as in, they recieve it alot too. But this is white people, not the government of their countries. ill apologize for my poor choice of words, are you all happy now? i dont like American GOVERNMENT policies, and what the europeans did in the past. Hunter you can say things like Chinese attacking other chinese and other asians. but my complaint is the white treatment of us because the way we look. also: Darwin's evolution chart goes from monkeys to different races of ppl and finally too white ppl as the top evolved form. Wats worse is that in Bio class we are still taught darwin's evolution. here's wat annoys me the most. They used the Bible as an excuse for taking these ppl over. I dont know if you guys have read it either as christians or as a literature hw, but it cleary shows Apostle Paul preaching to Rome and the rest of Europe when the Jews have got persecution from them and these ppl were the unholy gentiles to the jews. But they recognized these ppl as God's childeren and went out and preached to them. Right, u all know that story and wat not. But they use that same bible that Paul brought to them to presecute the Jews who was the ones that preached to them, and other races. i also would love to see u try and launch a WMD stupidly on US bases. I mean patriot missles dont sit there with its missles looking mean. Nor do the new laser defense planes. Plus if he DID use these WMD, that gives NATO no choice to attack Hussein as well. He's stuck facing the UN and the NATO. He may have been confident to take on the US like that, but how would he feel with NATO and UN up his ass? ppl dont just fire WMD, even Nkorea hasnt launched on Japan or skorea. Its not something u just launch just because you have it. also when i say country i mean their policy and wat not. last time i checked... the country is not run by the majority of the ppl as weve seen in America. i mean are you saying their policies come from the majority of the ppl? It doesnt man, it comes from couple of ppl in an office. tats all for now |
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racism (rac·ism) - n. 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race. TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, IT DOESN'T SAY "Unless you are white, then it doesn't apply"!!!! http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism Last edited by NinjaServ; 2003-11-21 at 14:32. |
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This isn't the Darwin theory at all, damnit there isn't any notion of 'top evolved form' in the Darwinism, the species which survives aren't the best, they are the most adapted to their environment, ie : during an ice age, the species more resistant to the cold will reproduce and not the others, not because they were weaker, but because they were less adapted to the place and time, but absolutely nothing to see with white or black skin or whatever! Quote:
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Secondly Nato or not Iraq have no chance, that wouldn't have changed anything, face it they haven't an army anymore before the second war, the first war and the embargo after that had destroyed this country. But anyway even Bush (oh well maybe, he lies as he breathes) never say that Saddam could attacked the US with a WMD: no aviation, no vector for an ICBM. And just a thing for Diabolism, the 9/11 wasn't made by Iraq, there wasn't even one terrorist who was an iraqi. Saddam and Bin Ladden are both monster but they hate each other, all the proofs of a bond between Iraq and Al Quaida was also lie from the Bush government. Quote:
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And we DID do something, our ancestors fucking screwed us and we're left with cleaning it up. Instead of atleast attempteing to try and repair their mistakes, youre saying its not your problem, so ofcourse you cant see why whites are still targeted as racists. And stop throwing around the word 'racist' so easily. Thats whats been wrong with this whole thread. By accusing eachother of being racist youre just dilluting youre own arguments against racism! |
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2003-11-21, 14:34 | Link #108 |
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Tzurial, Zoro is white basing and judging them all, if you clearly look at the difinition of racism, than my claim that he is racist is VERY MUCH true!!!
I never said that there WERE NOT still white racists, but the fact is they don't count racism toward white people and I am fucking sick of it!!! None of us today were even INVOLVED in the whole shit from the past. SURE it still effects us today, there would not be as many black/african america/etc. people in this country if it didn't happen (which I am glad they are here now, I enjoy being friends why my black friends :fingers: ) racism (rac·ism) - n. 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race. TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, IT DOESN'T SAY "Unless you are white, then it doesn't apply"!!!! http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism |
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2003-11-21, 15:04 | Link #110 |
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*hah* so much hate in this thread. This is why people cant get along. They cant accept others ideals and thoughts so they just bash them. So many wars, so many fights have been caused by clashes of morals and such. People say racism is bad, how bout hate that deals with other things. If you get so mad because of what zoro said, your exactly like a animal. Our ansesters were uncivilizied and let their emotions overtake them. If you say that happened in the past, and racism doesnt exist. Think about prejiduce. How many times have you made fun of a fat kid, how many times have you picked on someone meeker then you. How many times have you been picked on or seen someone get picked on. You guys say RACISM doesnt exist, but there is something much worse in everyday life. It drives kids to kill and sucide. Thats what is the problem. Racism may soon be a thing of the past, but prejudice and being biast is still strong.
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this is absolutely ridiculous. i was going to pass up on posting in here but what has been tossed around in this thread really amazes me.
zoro, you may be in an AP class but with what you just spouted, you should be in remedial classes. u lack several things: coherent thoughts, correct grammar, and real world education. practically everything that you've said so far is almost complete bullshit to me. briefly commenting here: calling white countries racist?... u have absolutely no clue. every country is a racist country. tons of non-white countries are as much if not more racist than white countries. the difference is that white countries generally have had more power in these past few centuries and have done whatever they wanted because of that power. if China could, it'd take Taiwan back and tell the US to go screw themselves in the ass. i'd argue some more but i don't even know where to start. you have so many examples that are so single-minded and full of errors. you pull shit out of nowhere and use retarded logic to support them. i suggest you study a bit harder in class (even if you get As) because whatever you've been learning so far, it ain't helping u much here right now... |
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The 9/11 team consisted of Saudis and Yemenese. The only significant known government contact of Al-Qaeda, (besides their well known friendship with the Taleban), is (or was) a close relationship with the Saudi royal family. But then the Saudis are American allies, so that exempts them from any blame, right? I believe that in fact, when Iraq invaded Kuwait, Al-Qaeda made an offer to the Saudis to get rid of Saddam for them. |
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What it all boils down is..
Before we all go pointing fingers at racist sons of bitches.. we should look no further than our own homes, schools, and communities. much love, dawgs.
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2003-11-21, 21:16 | Link #119 |
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Tzurial and diabolistic seems to be the only mature one in this thread. Wait no, so is Hunter.
(b4 u flame i am including myself in the immature section, ive said somethings just out of heated emotions as well) all of you who flame is only supporting my "SUPPOSED RACISM" of whites and wat not, being assholes. (note the supposed) The main reason why the NATO didnt help during 9-11 is that the US knew about it. And unlike the brainwashed ppl of america, the European leaders knew that US knew. A Navy officer came to our class, and wat was supposed to be a brief explanation of the benefits of the Navy ended up as a WHOLE discussion about the Navy. And one interesting thing he brought up was that there was a carrier ready to go on the East coast of america and he was on it. It was fully loaded, pilots ready in their cockpits, but they were ordered not to lift off to intercept the plane. (2nd one) my guess is that if NATO knew this, they wouldnt help, since US is ovbiously looking for war. Yea my teacher taught me how darwin put the white on the top. I never questioned her in my entire course there, since she wasnt a nice lady, and didnt want to risk my grade. and i didnt read the darwin section, cuz its not important in the AP test. i need to study more? ok i will. but u should read the posts dragon. I said clearly "I APOLOGIZE FOR MY POOR CHOICE OF WORDS" so instead of going off saying how stupid my 180 IQ and 1600 SAT score is, read the posts. oh diabolistc i never said the small group of ppl running the government was racist. I said the reason why countries can be racist without the ppl actually being racist is because it depends on the ppl who run the government. If the government is racist, the whole country's policy can become racist. and may i say this again so ninjaserv wont get offended: the whole time i was talking about the government policy. not the actual white people! For all u know, i have more white friends than you! and if you think about it: Japan and other countries have VERY low immigrantion level. And truthfully i didnt know about the japanese, i just heard it was hard to get a citizenship. But the thing is American had protests and other things demanding some of these minority groups to be able to get citizenships. You cant say Japan might not consider if lots of whites rallied and demand citizenship. Iraq had nothing to do with Al-Quieda. Hussein hates iran and afghanistan because they arent arabs. theyre persians. i dont know if Al-Quieda is in anyway connected to Iran or Afghan anymore tho. the past IS important, than wats the point of learning history? i have never said YOU are to blame for the past, but the government of those certain countries should learn from the past. And i admit most European countries have learned quickly. America is the slowest. |
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You complain in a previous post that Native Americans are patronized by education systems, and now you say that the American government didn't learn from the past? Instead of making things up and pissing off people like Ashibaka and Ninjaserv... do a bit of research,.. especially for a hot-topic like racism.. you can't just jump to conclusions and spout incessant remarks.
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