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2012-07-31, 08:28 | Link #662 | ||
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@kyp275 - well because plants and animals are also "alive"... would be hard without eating that stuff. Why should we be allowd to end their lifes - but our life worth more. Not humans = not the exact same rights.
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2012-07-31, 08:32 | Link #664 | ||
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2012-07-31, 08:37 | Link #665 | |
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no, I'm taking issues with your completely incorrect use of the term AI and NPC, the two are not interchangeable. |
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2012-07-31, 08:40 | Link #666 | ||
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We are talking about Yui in the game... the character in the game... controlled by the AI - which makes the Character in the game a NPC. Quote:
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2012-07-31, 08:42 | Link #667 | ||
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sigh, did you not read what I wrote, or are you just incapable of comprehending what you read? show me a fully sentient and self-aware AI or a little green man from outer space, or a talking dolphin or mayhaps a talking apple tree, then we can have meaningful discussions on the basic rights of non-human life. |
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2012-07-31, 08:45 | Link #668 |
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@XaXa Well since you just agreed to Yui being an AI(which you stubbornly not before), your next argument was "an AI who plays a game is a NPC."
Let me give another answer to that She is not playing any games, she just exists inside the game as Kirito's personal AI
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2012-07-31, 08:48 | Link #669 |
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Yes but her character - that cute little girl they adopted is just a NPC. 'cause it is a character that is controlled by AI and not a Player. And only exist in the game...
She did not wait in line to buy the game and play it...
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2012-07-31, 08:49 | Link #670 | |
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Well form I understand that to your point of view Yui can't be said as an NPC because she is not a 'character' in first place rather than AI with a child girl persona? Attach Yui to a girl robot then Yui can be player playing character in SOA, that would be good isn't it? |
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2012-07-31, 08:53 | Link #671 | |
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"I have a little argument with some people if Yui is a NPC or not. They all claim she is an AI - which I agree with. But does that mean she is not a NPC?" "Play" just means she is in the game. Like a GM is not meant to "play" the game ( well yes in SAO the GM plays it :P ) and is still a "Player"
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2012-07-31, 09:05 | Link #672 | ||
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Once you move on from Aincrad and consider the SAO series as a whole, Yui cannot be considered to be an NPC. |
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2012-07-31, 09:09 | Link #674 |
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I wake up to three pages of this?
Oi, it's simple -- Yui was an advanced NPC when she first appeared in Morning Dew Girl, but once she broke away from Cardinal, started making decisions on her own that go against the game and transferred her program to Kirito's NervGear, she became an AI that's playing the game. |
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2012-07-31, 09:22 | Link #678 | |
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To say that every AI can "Think" is a really strong word. Like I wrote iGod is an AI. But his ability to learn is simple "copy what human wrote" so it looks like he would be a real person.
If you ask him if SOA is a good anime - he will not think about it... He will replay with the answer he saw somwhere else. or if he has no clue... ^^ Quote:
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2012-07-31, 09:31 | Link #679 |
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@XaXa Because he doesn't know what SAO is, AI are also based on a knowledge beforehand. Meanwhile there are also Super AIs which have a searching capabilities to gain knowledge in this case IGod lacking it
Btw it's getting out of topic since the answers are already given and clear i don't think it needs further arguments
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2012-07-31, 09:39 | Link #680 |
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so you think that the character Yui in the game is a NPC? Because you understand the fact that there are just 2 types of character possible in a game. Players and non-Players? And Yui is clearly a NPC.
"Searching Ability" yeah he is looking up things on the internet... Doesn't really count as "Thinking" ...well nowadays maybe...
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