2016-01-08, 13:59 | Link #101 | ||
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And for that matter, Shaft don't exactly need her endorsement either. They're also very successful, famous and well-regarded in the circles where they need to be famous and well-regarded. People who watch everything they do will watch this show, too; people who like the manga* will watch it anyway, just to see what Shaft do with it; people who have no horse in this race will check it out to see what the drama is about; casual viewers will not give a damn and either watch it or not depending on whether they're interested in the story or not. Either way, a lot of people are likely to watch their show anyway, with or without Umino Chica's endorsement. (*And for that matter a lot of people who like the manga don't really watch anime so they won't care about Shaft one way or another.) Quote:
Btw, I think you're taking her comment more seriously than it was intended, perhaps due to the loose translation from above. It's just along the lines of "oh wow, I love this guy's works so much, and I always wanted my manga to be one day adapted by his studio, and now it's happening! Wow, I'm so happy!" She doesn't say "worshipped", that's just the translator exaggerating (literally it just says she loves those shows directed by Shinbou "so very very much"). And she doesn't say she would've refused any other studio, she just says it was her dream for he manga to be adapted by Shinbou&Shaft, and if it wasn't to be she wouldn't have wanted an anime at all. (Note the nuance in tone.) And of course she's not just supporting Shinbou himself in the end but the whole project and the people working on it. It's not an ode to Shinbou the Great, it's just an excited comment. Again, I'm not a Shaft/Shinbou fan at all, and I'm also boggling at the news and the choice of studio, but let's not pretend there's some sort of grand conspiracy and the evil production team is holding a gun to the poor mangaka's head or something... Last edited by kuromitsu; 2016-01-08 at 14:16. |
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The manga will stay popular anyway, and people will watch the show anyway, and Shaft will do whatever they do, with or without Umino Chica's enthusiastic endorsement. So there's no point in her faking enthusiasm. (Plus, this being NHK and Sangatsu no Lion, the most likely main target of this show probably won't be otaku, at least not the sort who have Opinions about Shaft and Shinbou.) Quote:
I can't help with that, then. Maybe someone will do a better translation that gets the tone and the actual meaning across. |
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Stop. Really, stop. This is such a poor comparison it makes me wonder if you know how either propaganda or business work.
Umino, as has been mentioned in other posts, is a massively successful artist. She could easily have refused to allow an adaptation if she didn't want one — the manga has been running for years and is quite popular, so one has to imagine that she's been approached and decided to hold off at least a handful of times. Besides, if you think this kind of discord between the production staff and the author of the original work can be kept out of sight for too long, you're willfully ignoring the examples brought up in this very thread of authors speaking out about what they see as poor treatment in adaptation. Let's use Occam's Razor: How many people need to be in on this, but keeping their mouths shut, if (1) Umino's statement is genuine, and (2) Umino's statement is fabricated for marketing purposes? What benefit could lying confer to the anime, considering that both Umino and Shinbou already have solid reputations (and presumably cash flow), and any revelation would only do harm instead of good? In fact, if you're on staff, you have an incentive to leak any sign that things are going poorly, because gossip from behind the scenes of a show that's this high-profile is going to be quite in demand. Quote:
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2016-01-09, 17:50 | Link #106 | |
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Wow @SHAFT hate. Though the source material and the production studio obviously don't seem to mesh very well at first glance (or 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th) and while I am a pretty huge fan of both, I just can't process how it'll work well. I love SHAFTs little tricks here and there but would that work with something as restrained as Sangatsu no Lion where I would probably want as little directional interference from the source material as much as possible BUT everyone's judging way too much right now.
I'd like to think this material is insanely heavy for SHAFT to f*ck up. And I have never seen SHAFT team up with NHK so obviously everyone know even the studio that this is something out of their comfort zones. I'm nervous but at the same time excited on what's to come. Quote:
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2016-03-03, 09:39 | Link #107 |
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while it isnt confirmed...just looking at the history with nhk shows it tends to be 2 cour series so im guessing we might have another shaft 2 cour series soon. hopefully it can pull viewership because nhk series dont tend to sell much. im very curious to see which in house character designer they will use. my guess is Nobuhiro Sugiyama.
sorry i bumped this even tho there isnt any news im just a fan of shaft. |
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2016-03-24, 10:14 | Link #113 |
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HOLY SHIT THIS IS BEAUTIFUL.
I can always count on shaft for amazing character designs. Lets see this baby in motion. Hope the staff is announced soon. Hate seeing the random Shaft hate but hey this is the internet. I am excited beyond belief because this is shaft. |
2016-03-24, 10:24 | Link #114 |
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There were times in the hazy past when Shinbou wasn't so consumed in the ourobouros of self-aware pandering that he produced stuff with a whiff of the original material intact - Natsu no Arashi and Soredemo Machi wa Mawatteiru come to mind (I liked both a lot). I just think the evidence suggests with the commercial success SHAFT has become such a caricature of itself that such moderation is no longer possible. I guess Sangatsu - an incredibly popular source material with a distinctive voice of its own - will be the true test.
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2016-03-24, 10:31 | Link #115 |
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To be fair we havent even seen a PV to be making any judgements. Shaft is known for accurate character designs. If Naoyuki Tatsuwa (nisekoi, soredemo, koufuku) is directing this than we can expect something tame from shaft. If we get a group effort from shaft like the good ole days we can expect something wacky. But based on the source its probably going to be a tame adaption.
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2016-03-24, 10:36 | Link #116 |
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Well I have a love-hate thing with his work. My experiences with Shinbou work tend to be radically different from majority of people because my very first Shinbou show was, strangely enough, Starship Girl Yamamoto Yohko. That was back in the late 90's. In my experience so far I haven't met anyone who can claim the same.
And because that show is one of my more closet favorites of my growing up years even today that I usually don't admit to other anime watchers, I can never really say that I don't like his work. SGYY already showed a lot of his style (the titular character also... twists her neck around a lot, not to mention the flat and wide static shots) before he became famous so... yeah.
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2016-03-24, 10:51 | Link #117 |
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Studio and Director already posted somewhere in page 02
Character Design: Sugiyama Nobuhiro Art settings: Yasuhiro Nakura Art Director: Seiki Tamura Sound Director: Toshiki Kameyama Music: Yukari Hashimoto Production: 3-gatsu no lion anime Production Committee Last edited by Dragonria; 2016-03-24 at 11:01. |
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All in all, I say, let's just wait for a PV before we can judge further (actually I don't really care, the manga is too precious for me not to watch this adaptation + I actually love SHAFT).
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2016-03-24, 20:52 | Link #119 |
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Lately I have avoided the recent offerings of Shaft because I'm also not too fond of the too much shinboism in his work either. But I want to give them the benefit of the doubt that they can restrain themselves when necessary. Judging by that staff list, I think they realise that the source material "Sangatsu No Lion" probably comes close to "Natsu No Arashi" bit more introspective and earnest without hardly any wacky and off-the-wall atmosphere.
So far Shaft has mostly adapted Monogatari series which if I'm not mistaken even the source material is wordy and quite otaku-pandering in nature. Thus, Shaft had the complete freedom to adapt the series however they want and make a lot of profit while doing that. Now they have established their brands to the wider audience, they don't have to pander to the particular demographic. I already am thinking that Shaft will give the full respect to the source and adapt it to match the same atmosphere of the manga. What I'm really worried about is how the casting will look like. I really hope instead of casting the usual uber-famous seiyuu, they explore the seiyuu pool more.
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I haven't watched any of the Monogatari's save the first one, but as a manga reader, I've been relatively happy in how Nisekoi didn't feel so much like 'shaft'. Believe me, I've always had a personal disdain against Shaft/Shinbou ever since Tsukuyomi (I believe I've always likened his works as Powerpoint Presentations ), but seems like he has mellowed out a bit recently.
Not only that, but this is an NHK series. If anything, I'm actually glad Shinbou is directing (yeah I can't believe that's coming from me) considering I've been bored to tears from all NHK series since... well... the first LogHora in 2013. I'm not expecting a masterpiece like IMO Beast Player Erin, but at least I don't think it will be a disaster. Hopefully Shinbou spices it just a bit. XD So yeah, colour me hyped about this series. Never touched a page of the manga, but I've always believed it will get an anime as Umino's next big hit. With the departure of Saekano till next year, this has become my most anticipated anime barring Macross Delta. Glad to see that it's airing date has been set.
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