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You misunderstand my meaning, I meant what part of Obito's story made Madara look nobler? I remember nothing in his story that painted Madara in a better light than this flashback. |
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2013-03-20, 09:44 | Link #43 | |
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yea, i think the lvl 2 technique that minato used to defeat obito is where minato advanced it beyond what tobirama did |
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2013-03-20, 09:44 | Link #44 | |
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If true, then the technique was given literally no fanfare, so much so that I have to wonder why Kishimoto didn't just hold off the technique for the eventual final data book. |
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2013-03-20, 10:30 | Link #46 |
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one thing that i don't get with this whole senju being stronger than the uchiha is how come their clan seemingly vanished from konoha? unlike the uchiha and all the other clans, the name senju became almost non-existent, especially in part 1. the name senju wasn't even mentioned until part 2. the senju brothers were simply called first and second, they didn't even have names! so what really happened to the senju clan?
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2013-03-20, 10:49 | Link #47 | |
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Or at least that is something I suspect Hashirama would do (disband the clan). |
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2013-03-20, 11:43 | Link #48 |
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^yea that's the only option that will make sense to me i think. we'll then find out that they were there all along, just not in name. they are the sarutobis and namikazes and dare i say harunos...
the point of this flashback is to make sasuke (and us) emapthize with the senju for once after all the upsetting uchiha flashbacks we've seen. so if hashirama kills himself and the clan disbands and/or relinquishes their name, then sasuke will have a reason to stop hating given all the sacrifices that were made by his enemies |
2013-03-20, 12:01 | Link #49 |
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^Hashirama is also a God of Shinobi. So either the title means nothing, both are the best, Sarutobi is greater because he was called God first in the series, or Hashirama was greater since was called god more recently. Whatever the case, the issue isn'y so black and white.
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2013-03-20, 13:18 | Link #50 | |
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2013-03-20, 13:44 | Link #51 | |
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yep yep
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2013-03-20, 14:06 | Link #52 |
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Right and Tobirama would agree with this. Honestly Hashirama may be more powerful then Tobirama and able to intimidate him with his chakra, but that doesn't guarantee control through fear. Hashirama planning to kill his entire clan would be outright betrayal and there's no way Tobirama would allow that.
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2013-03-20, 14:12 | Link #53 | ||
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That would make him more insane than all the Uchiha put together. |
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2013-03-20, 14:22 | Link #54 | |
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I think you mean more "emotional". Remember, being insane only means you are really really emotional in the Narutoverse. |
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If that was or is true then its normal to think that each kage was a god. They surpassed the previous or outlived the previous and thus is stronger. Right? Quote:
They kept breeding and made even a difference like Branche and Head Families. While not entirely insane (Uchiha) it seems logical that incest had to be done to keep the line pure same as for the Uchiha's. Quote:
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2013-03-20, 18:38 | Link #60 |
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When the author changes his mind, its no longer a matter of opinion. Its a matter of fact. Sorry to say, 3rd is not as strong as he once was. He had the title of God, then kimmish was,"you know what? 1st hokage being a God makes more sense" and bam instant recon.
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