2012-07-01, 11:54 | Link #1473 | |
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i can list differences and similarity between 2 and probably not much different/similarity with other MC protagonist
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2012-07-02, 19:55 | Link #1474 | |
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well, I say Banagher is more grounded than Kira ever was.. i could list a few similarities but actually, Banagher is just one of those gundam main hero stereotypes so yeah .. |
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2012-07-11, 04:25 | Link #1475 | |
seiyuu maniac
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Banagher is an idealist pacifist like Kira who flat out refuses to kill *anyone* in the end, he stands out like a sore thumb amongst the old Gundam heros and more in line with the post SEED AU ones.
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2012-07-11, 10:05 | Link #1476 | |
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He has intentional kills on a Dreissen and a Geara Doga, as well as the willingness to destroy Full Frontal in return for Audrey's safety. Though admittedly he has other unintentional kills and a kill as a result of psycommu backflow... And when did not-killing become a negative quality? Also, I second this. No point complaining to other people that you can't illegally view something. At least keep it to yourself. |
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2012-07-11, 11:54 | Link #1477 | |
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2012-07-12, 03:02 | Link #1478 | ||
seiyuu maniac
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Tomino's Gundam handles this much better on both ends - in numerous occasions he would show the protagonist themselves pushing aside their feels and do the right thing by pulling the trigger on the loved one who's gone on a psychotic rampage (eg Kamiyu killing Rosami in the Psycho Gundam MkII) and then personally taking on the emotional burden associated with dealing the killing blow, and on the other hand he also inserts nameless grunts calling out the names of their love ones or mother in the explosions when the protagonists kills them, it's short but full of impact and gives even the nameless grunts a brief showing of their humanity. Note that none of the new shows manages to do something similar to what Tomino did, like the MS Loni vapourizes are just that - robots made of cold metal, you never get to see the pilots she kills, yet they make great pain to show Loni being vapourized in the explosion as a cheap gimmick to give her and *only her* a human face, forced the guilt onto Riddhe and make him look bad while Banagher gets to claim credit for being clean, and expect the viewer to take a similar stance as Banagher (or Kira for that matter), sorry but that trick simply doesn't work on me.
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seiyuu maniac
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Tomino's Gundam handles this much better on both ends - in numerous occasions he would show the protagonist themselves pushing aside their feels and do the right thing by pulling the trigger on the loved one who's gone on a psychotic rampage (eg Kamiyu killing Rosami in the Psycho Gundam MkII) and taking on the emotional burden of dealing the killing blow, and on the other hand he also inserts nameless grunts calling out the names of their love ones or mother in the explosions when the protagonists kills them, it's short but full of impact and gives even the nameless grunts a brief showing of their humanity. Note that none of the new shows manages to do something similar to what Tomino did, like the MS Loni vapourizes are just that - robots which you never get to see the humans inside, yet they make great pain to show Loni being vapourized in the explosion as a cheap gimmick to give her and *only her* a human face, made Riddhe the scape goat for dealing the killing blow and keep Banagher "clean" and expect the viewer to take a similar stance as Banagher (or Kira for that matter), sorry but that trick simply doesn't work on me.
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2012-07-12, 03:59 | Link #1480 |
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Pretty much what houkoholic said
Plus, if you want to apply a "no-kill policy" in a war/battle, you must have a godlike war-machine like Strike Freedom and have godlike skill like Kira. Other honorable mention goes to Kenshin Himura from Samurai X. Banagher and his Unicorn? Simply not quite enough.
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