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**monir** · 2012-11-24, 01:14

Expected Release Date: ???

Website: http://www.evangelion.co.jp/news.html

Purpose of this thread is to discuss your expectation and anticipation of this movie. Barring you have a time machine, none of us will have seen the movie until the due date, so any posted spoiler from earlier adaptation of Evangelion must be tagged and clearly marked before posting them here. I also urge everyone to read this rule which is strictly enforced in AnimeSuki.

Be polite to each other and have fun discussing the movie!

P.S. To discuss the Evangelion Rebuild 3.0, use this thread.

NoemiChan · 2012-11-24, 01:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by monir

Expected Release Date: 2013

Website: http://www.evangelion.co.jp/news.html

Purpose of this thread is to discuss your expectation and anticipation of this movie. Barring you have a time machine, none of us will have seen the movie until the due date, so any posted spoiler from earlier adaptation of Evangelion must be tagged and clearly marked before posting them here. I also urge everyone to read this rule which is strictly enforced in AnimeSuki.

Be polite to each other and have fun discussing the movie!

P.S. To discuss the Evangelion Rebuild 3.0, use this thread.

One word: Seriously?

Damned! That would be good! *No sarcasm.

bhl88 · 2012-11-24, 01:26

I doubt that it'll come at 2013.

Rosalena · 2012-11-24, 01:28

. . . And ANN is reporting that the 2013 release date has already been removed from the official Eva website. Too good to be true, ladies and gentlemen. 2015, anyone?

NoemiChan · 2012-11-24, 01:32

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Originally Posted by Rosalena

. . . And ANN is reporting that the 2013 release date has already been removed from the official Eva website. Too good to be true, ladies and gentlemen. 2015, anyone?

Again... Seriously. So we'll discussed the anime that will be shown 2 years from now....

Rosalena · 2012-11-24, 01:58

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Originally Posted by GenjiChan

Again... Seriously. So we'll discussed the anime that will be shown 2 years from now....

Of course. Didn't you hear the voice-over for the latest teaser? I mean, there's so much that can be said about that! The tone, the word choice . . . oh, and I especially loved the white-on-black scheme. So very avant-garde. I simply can't imagine what Anno is trying to imply using that. It must be something profoundly psychological/religious/quantum mechanical/etc . . .

/sarcasm

In all serious though, I adore Eva.

NoemiChan · 2012-11-24, 02:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosalena

Of course. Didn't you hear the voice-over for the latest teaser? I mean, there's so much that can be said about that! The tone, the word choice . . . oh, and I especially loved the white-on-black scheme. So very avant-garde. I simply can't imagine what Anno is trying to imply using that. It must be something profoundly psychological/religious/quantum mechanical/etc . . .

/sarcasm

In all serious though, I adore Eva.

I adore Rei.

RRW · 2012-11-24, 07:14

By the way isnt that we already knew the title? what with "?"

NoemiChan · 2012-11-24, 07:24

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Originally Posted by RRW

By the way isnt that we already knew the title? what with "?"

They're not sure if it'll be the Final....

bhl88 · 2012-11-24, 14:33

"It's not anime, it's Evangelion!"

Mad Pierrot · 2012-11-24, 14:57

Wonder who will be enemy. Gendo? The Angels? Kaworu's soul who is tired of dying in every Evangelion work in the most disgusting ways? Stock footage?

**Klashikari** · 2012-11-24, 18:06

A bit surprised it wasn't mentioned but the current title of the final movie is quite... "weird". Not because of the "：||" as the subtitle　but something else:

1) Movies 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 had different katakana for "Evangelion" compared to the TV series. Movies: "ヱヴァンゲリヲン" (wevangeriwon) / TV :"エヴァンゲリオン" (Evangerion)
It was particularly unusual since ヱ and ヲ are quite unusual katakana: you hardly see any of them, and they are extremely odd choice here to boot.
The catch is that the final movie reverts back to the original Katakana.

2) Movies 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 had "新劇場版" (Shingekijouban : New Theatrical version). For some reason, 4.0 is different: 新 for new has been swapped and put at the start of the title (so instead of having something like "Evangelion, New Theatrical version", it goes to NEW - Evangelion, Theatrical version).
There is another catch here: 新 has been turned into katakana シン which is only the phonetic. But there are tons of words in japanese that can be read like that (one that is interesting would be 真, which means "true"). This is also interesting because End of Evangelion original title is actually "新世紀エヴァンゲリオン劇場版 Air/まごころを、君に" Shin Seiki Evangerion Gekijouban: Air/Magokoro o, Kimi ni).

Basically, putting that シン looks like an attempt of having a new or true version of End of Evangelion, as the main chunk of the title is exactly the same as EoE one.
-新世紀エヴァンゲリオン劇場版 Air/まごころを、君に
-シン・エヴァンゲリオン劇場版：||

Red parts of course indicate how different they are, so instead of having Evangelion written differently, they put シン (Rebuild then?) instead of 新世紀 (Shinseiki: New Era => Neon Genesis), whereas the blue parts are the subtitles.

This of course may be another ploy to give more food for thought than what it actually is, but I really doubt the change of the title would be just for the kicks, especially the katakana used for evangelion.

RRW · 2012-11-24, 18:20

so you saying Rebuild taking place before Original?

**Klashikari** · 2012-11-24, 18:27

I'm not going to look too deeply in that title, but I'm not surprised why they used katakana for "新" here because it can mean a lot of things. It can mean either a new/updated End of Evangelion, or literally the only "true" conclusion. Suffice to say, I don't think it has any timeline implication, as of now.

Mad Pierrot · 2012-11-24, 19:11

The previous movies had a subtitle "You can (not) 'action'" which apparently referred to Shinji's interactions with other characters. "You are (not) alone" probably referenced Shinji's relation with Misato, Rei and others.

"You can (not) advance" probably referred to Shinji's desire to save Rei and Misato supporting him.

"You Can (Not) Redo" obviously referred to the Third Impact and whoever supports Shinji.

The last Evangelion film will not have a subtitle and the part of the title "Shin" in this movie, could it actually refer to Shinji. I think it could refer to the fact that Shinji will move alone in 4.0 and will apparently be mentally stronger considering there is nobody telling him "You can (not) be strong)". At least that's what I think and I hope Shinji will be stronger than in the TV series and Sadamoto's manga considering his current situation.

NoemiChan · 2012-11-24, 19:19

The franchise has weird ways in naming "titles" for an anime.....

Mad Pierrot · 2012-11-24, 19:32

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Originally Posted by GenjiChan

The franchise has weird ways in naming "titles" for an anime.....

You obviously never heard of Kingdom Hearts

NoemiChan · 2012-11-24, 20:44

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Originally Posted by amaterasu4

You obviously never heard of Kingdom Hearts

I watched the AMV. I know it by name.

wavehawk · 2012-11-25, 02:27

I'll throw my hat in and suggest the whole movie revamp is the final Groundhog Day repetition Shinji's gone through for the Eva series, in which he finally gets sick of his own whiny reputation and mans up.

I'm serious.

Mad Pierrot · 2012-11-25, 13:47

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Originally Posted by wavehawk

I'll throw my hat in and suggest the whole movie revamp is the final Groundhog Day repetition Shinji's gone through for the Eva series, in which he finally gets sick of his own whiny reputation and mans up.

I'm serious.

Hey, this is basically what I said but harsh!

Besides in the manga he tries to make up by trying to punch his father and regaining his composture after Misator's death but... it doesn't last long.

2012-11-24, 01:14	Link #1
monir cho~ kakkoii Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 3rd Planet	Rebuild of Evangelion: Final Movie [Shin Evangelion Gekijouban:\| \|] Expected Release Date: ??? Website: http://www.evangelion.co.jp/news.html Purpose of this thread is to discuss your expectation and anticipation of this movie. Barring you have a time machine, none of us will have seen the movie until the due date, so any posted spoiler from earlier adaptation of Evangelion must be tagged and clearly marked before posting them here. I also urge everyone to read this rule which is strictly enforced in AnimeSuki. Be polite to each other and have fun discussing the movie! P.S. To discuss the Evangelion Rebuild 3.0, use this thread. Last edited by monir; 2012-11-24 at 23:44. Reason: fixed broken link to Rebuild 3.0 thread

2012-11-24, 01:26	Link #3
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2012-11-24, 01:28	Link #4
Rosalena ／人◕ ‿‿ ◕人＼ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: United States Age: 36	. . . And ANN is reporting that the 2013 release date has already been removed from the official Eva website. Too good to be true, ladies and gentlemen. 2015, anyone? __________________ Twitter \|\| My Anime List

2012-11-24, 14:33	Link #10
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2012-11-24, 18:06	Link #12
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv175 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 36	A bit surprised it wasn't mentioned but the current title of the final movie is quite... "weird". Not because of the "：\|\|" as the subtitle　but something else: 1) Movies 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 had different katakana for "Evangelion" compared to the TV series. Movies: "ヱヴァンゲリヲン" (wevangeriwon) / TV :"エヴァンゲリオン" (Evangerion) It was particularly unusual since ヱ and ヲ are quite unusual katakana: you hardly see any of them, and they are extremely odd choice here to boot. The catch is that the final movie reverts back to the original Katakana. 2) Movies 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 had "新劇場版" (Shingekijouban : New Theatrical version). For some reason, 4.0 is different: 新 for new has been swapped and put at the start of the title (so instead of having something like "Evangelion, New Theatrical version", it goes to NEW - Evangelion, Theatrical version). There is another catch here: 新 has been turned into katakana シン which is only the phonetic. But there are tons of words in japanese that can be read like that (one that is interesting would be 真, which means "true"). This is also interesting because End of Evangelion original title is actually "新世紀エヴァンゲリオン劇場版 Air/まごころを、君に" Shin Seiki Evangerion Gekijouban: Air/Magokoro o, Kimi ni). Basically, putting that シン looks like an attempt of having a new or true version of End of Evangelion, as the main chunk of the title is exactly the same as EoE one. -新世紀エヴァンゲリオン劇場版 Air/まごころを、君に -シン・エヴァンゲリオン劇場版：\|\| Red parts of course indicate how different they are, so instead of having Evangelion written differently, they put シン (Rebuild then?) instead of 新世紀 (Shinseiki: New Era => Neon Genesis), whereas the blue parts are the subtitles. This of course may be another ploy to give more food for thought than what it actually is, but I really doubt the change of the title would be just for the kicks, especially the katakana used for evangelion. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter] Last edited by Klashikari; 2012-11-24 at 18:25.

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Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Would you be my girlfriend? Age: 32	Wonder who will be enemy. Gendo? The Angels? Kaworu's soul who is tired of dying in every Evangelion work in the most disgusting ways? Stock footage?

2012-11-24, 18:27	Link #14
Klashikari 阿賀野型3番艦、矢矧 Lv175 Graphic Designer Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Belgium, Brussels Age: 36	I'm not going to look too deeply in that title, but I'm not surprised why they used katakana for "新" here because it can mean a lot of things. It can mean either a new/updated End of Evangelion, or literally the only "true" conclusion. Suffice to say, I don't think it has any timeline implication, as of now. __________________ [Sig art: Kagura Yuu, Nunukko, Maku Rako & Mishima Kurone] / [Twitter]

2012-11-24, 19:11	Link #15
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Would you be my girlfriend? Age: 32	The previous movies had a subtitle "You can (not) 'action'" which apparently referred to Shinji's interactions with other characters. "You are (not) alone" probably referenced Shinji's relation with Misato, Rei and others. "You can (not) advance" probably referred to Shinji's desire to save Rei and Misato supporting him. "You Can (Not) Redo" obviously referred to the Third Impact and whoever supports Shinji. The last Evangelion film will not have a subtitle and the part of the title "Shin" in this movie, could it actually refer to Shinji. I think it could refer to the fact that Shinji will move alone in 4.0 and will apparently be mentally stronger considering there is nobody telling him "You can (not) be strong)". At least that's what I think and I hope Shinji will be stronger than in the TV series and Sadamoto's manga considering his current situation. Last edited by Mad Pierrot; 2012-11-24 at 19:33.

2012-11-24, 19:19	Link #16
NoemiChan Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Philippines Age: 35	The franchise has weird ways in naming "titles" for an anime.....

2012-11-25, 02:27	Link #19
wavehawk Some say I'm the Reverse Join Date: Jul 2006	I'll throw my hat in and suggest the whole movie revamp is the final Groundhog Day repetition Shinji's gone through for the Eva series, in which he finally gets sick of his own whiny reputation and mans up. I'm serious. __________________ "We haven't been properly introduced..."