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Perfect 10 | 4 | 20.00% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 7 | 35.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 5 | 25.00% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 10.00% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 10.00% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2016-02-29, 20:58 | Link #101 | |
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- Came for "inspection" but end up swayed by mayo KFC - His town palace got flatten in a second by superior advanced faction and the first thing he worried is him as the next king. - Dragging his sexytime like some kind of accessories. - Didnt make his own speech (i asume tyyuule burn his speech paper mean she is the one who write it, at least i think thats the speech paper) - Act high and mighty but when thing gone wrong, goes coward and start begging help from his personal rabbit? They clearly made zorzal as dumb as they can, granted he probably only hear what sdf capable of, compared to pina who has seen it personally with her own eyes but still, even the king who also hear stuff is wise enough to "ok stop, this guy mean business" Zorzal? Guy just went full retard (thanks to crazy wabbit i guess) |
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2016-03-01, 03:12 | Link #102 | ||
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Surely he is wise enough not to make things harder than Zorzal and to set the Empire back to peace between Japan. And if only SDF knows about Tyuule's existence, who is rather pull the strings. Unfortunately, Noriko only sees Tyuule as some fellow slave so. I don't know if Kuribayashi noticed something about her. Quote:
I wonder if SDF truly did know what kind of person Zorzal is, they might have come of with many of Japanese cultures, no the all other countries cultures from the other world to sway him once again effectively to stall for enough amount of time. Since Pina has things for Yaoi books, so will books filled with Yuri or any other themes of nudity female arts work on Zorzal? If Zorzal is actually dumb and retard enough to dive into SDF's enormous cultural gifts as sign of peace to each other, to bond more strong relationship from an another world to make Zorzal to be distracted and maybe somehow fool other servants and soldiers to secretly disobey Zorzal. With so called modern technology, weapons are not the only the other world's country specialty. Give him some kind of a giant swimming pool, or maybe giant pizza. There are many better ideas for doing something more flashy. Tyuule, what action will she take in this kind of condition? The thing is there's really nothing for Japan to gain anything from this kind of ridiculous plan except for maybe keeping the situation stable for its neighboring countries I wonder. Last edited by rladls2121; 2016-03-01 at 03:38. |
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2016-03-01, 03:24 | Link #103 |
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^Tyuule would sabotage any efforts to subdue or compromise relations between Zorzal's administration and Japan.
Her goal is to have the Empire burn, not just a personal vendetta on the Prince. She WANTS to vilify the Empire and anger the Japanese, she doesn't want a half-ass conflict, she wants an all out conflict with countless lives destroyed. That's why she's perfectly ok with the underhanded and evil, self-destructive guerrilla warfare the three stooges are cooking up. Anything to piss the crap out of the much more powerful enemy is good. You can't blame her, her entire race was raped, ravaged, genocided, and her own pride crushed. She needs to be stopped, sure, but her vengeance is totally understandable.
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2016-03-01, 08:07 | Link #104 |
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^like aohige said...
Everything boil down to tyuule, zorzal attidute is easy to control as long you please him a lot. Tyuule probably feed zorzal with "poison words" like sdf is secretly taking over empire or sdf didnt like zorzal so they want him dead etc etc, all while at the same time sweet mouthing zorzal too Like become a king, empire is no weakling bla bla. Tyuule is the key here, she is the main villain in this season, she plan and plot everything in the shadow while zorzal take all the public glory. I dont pity zorzal but i cant exactly angry to him either, he is 100% the clown in this gate series and the irony thing is he didnt even realize it, he is so end up broken when all of this reach the climax. |
2016-03-01, 08:38 | Link #105 | |
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As rladis suggested though, I think the best strategy against Zolzal might be the Outbreak Company strategy: bring offerings of various forms of entertainment/culture that he can't find on his side until you find something he likes, then bring in enough to get him hooked. Considering his IQ, his impulsiveness and all the other aspects we've seen of his character, I'm pretty sure this would encourage some rather beneficial reactions. Whether he talks peace so he can trade for more stuff, or pushes forward with military action in order to seize such "resources", JSDF wins. At the least it would not likely hurt the situation. Another solution is to let him see some of Pina's "art". He seems like the type who would be violently prejudiced when it comes to such things, so it could encourage him to attack directly. Imagine the history books: one of the biggest assets to victory was YAOI. |
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2016-03-01, 13:54 | Link #107 | |||||
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And all Tyulle's doing is nudging him in the direction he already wanted to go. Without her, maybe he'd be more cautious, less brutal, but no less ambitious or callous. Quote:
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2016-03-01, 15:43 | Link #108 | |
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Also, Molt was much wiser than Zolzal concerning relations with Japan. True, for a long time he talked of just dragging things out until Japan left, but once he saw what Japan can do, he immediately said "go ahead with the treaty". He may have been lying again, but it didn't sound like it, and he'd made it quite clear that if nothing else he's good at assessing the power of his enemies and coming up with a good strategy. In a situation where you're that thoroughly outmatched, welcoming peace talks is sound strategy. |
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2016-03-01, 16:04 | Link #109 | ||
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2016-03-01, 19:40 | Link #110 | |
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2016-03-01, 19:47 | Link #111 |
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Wow, the Special Region really needs any help they can get.
If there is any slim hope for Zorzal, Pina might make some risky decision if she really care Zorzal to certain extent, too bad for the step-brother though. Thinking of some possibilities to Tyuule to turn back when she was a strong and kind leader, if maybe Delilah awakes up and still cares dearly about her fellow comrades. I thought the idea was at least worth trying, but actually is just wasting resources and time. There should be something that can tempt Zorzal and Tyuule no matter how they know it is a trap. Pina knows what Zorzal likes and things he has weak resistance to. I don't know about Delilah though. There should be many things that surprise them that are other side of the GATE, but I'm going to stop here. I do not know any better. Last edited by rladls2121; 2016-03-01 at 20:11. |
2016-03-01, 20:37 | Link #112 |
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How smart Zorzal thinks he is > how smart Zorzal actually is > how smart he appears to be/presents himself to be.
Both of the latter are below average, or at least below the average of the rest of the characters in the series. The former, I think, is not considerably above. I don't get the impression that Zorzal thinks he's a genius by any stretch. Rather, I think he's just smart enough to realize that intelligence is not his strongest point, which is why he masks what little he has. If he's underestimated, that helps him. And he is fairly cunning. His lack of morals actually benefits him in that respect.
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2016-03-01, 21:27 | Link #114 |
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Molt might have more on the ball then you, and I before the last few episodes, are giving him credit for. All he could have needed to do was stall for time. If He has a good idea of how long the Gate will be open then he could tie Japan up negotiating until they run out of time .
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2016-03-02, 02:23 | Link #116 | ||
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2016-03-02, 08:26 | Link #117 | |
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2016-03-02, 12:58 | Link #119 |
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I'd have to disagree there. I haven't seen a single action by this guy that suggests any kind of real intelligence. He's convinced that whatever he does is right, and if what he does turns out to be stupid or embarrassing, he later goes on to himself about how he MEANT to do that. His actions are not the actions of someone with any intelligence, they're the actions of a stupid child who wants to get his way. That's what makes him so dangerous: as his brother Diabo said, there's nothing more dangerous than an idiot who's learned a few tricks.
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2016-03-02, 14:51 | Link #120 | |
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I don't think he's any kind of smart, really, but he does know his ground (the high level politics of the empire, such as they are) relatively well. However, he's got the same problem as Molt: neither of them really understand Japan. How could they? They see the lack of aggressiveness as a sign of weakness. Japan bombed the senate building, and their takeaway was "the losers didn't do it while it was in session! There's still room to maneuver!".
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