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johnjefferson3 · 2007-05-26, 13:06

nanoha was just upset that both sabru and tiena never actually listed to nanoha and just did their own little thing, so nanoha had to make them so called "wake up" well, i think she finally gave her 2 slackers the message that you do not mess with nanoha (our white devil). now maybe sabru and tiena can finally accompish what there were actually be trained to do!!!! plus we are only 22 hours away from the airing of epsiode 9!!!! also some else posted, i think nanoha should run for us. presendent when she get older, if we had her now, their would be no war, becuase all of our enimes would be involutally befriended. ha ha!!!

carlanox · 2007-05-26, 15:51

ok you guys has forced me to register in this forum to make this comment. Sorry I only read till page 9.

Regarding Nanoha's punishment I think that it is not wrong at all.
When Tea failed in the mission, Nanoha did ask her to promise not to repeat her mistake again. Saying that she is not along and working as a team (where her job is a long range support).

But during the training, again Tea forget her promise and break the rule. She make Subaru do reckless atttacks and herself go to the front line (no longer as a support). What happens if it is the real mission and IF Tea failed the attack and disabled herself as a support for Subrau? That will make the whole team in danger.

That's why Nanoha punish Tea. Why she shot twice is because the first one effects is reduced by Tea barrier. And Nanoha never release her limiter. She just order RH to be in release mode (that's not mean to release her limiter).

So I dont think Nanoha is snapped. and Also is it alright for the trainee to attack with all their might (that's what always they do in the training anyway). The only cause is her dissapointment in Tia's action.

Meophist · 2007-05-26, 15:55

Had you read further, you'll find that there are a bunch who agree with you.

Edit: Thanks for registering anyways. Welcome to the AnimeSuki forums.

johnishida · 2007-05-26, 16:10

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Originally Posted by carlanox

ok you guys has forced me to register in this forum to make this comment. Sorry I only read till page 9.

Regarding Nanoha's punishment I think that it is not wrong at all.
When Tea failed in the mission, Nanoha did ask her to promise not to repeat her mistake again. Saying that she is not along and working as a team (where her job is a long range support).

But during the training, again Tea forget her promise and break the rule. She make Subaru do reckless atttacks and herself go to the front line (no longer as a support). What happens if it is the real mission and IF Tea failed the attack and disabled herself as a support for Subrau? That will make the whole team in danger.

That's why Nanoha punish Tea. Why she shot twice is because the first one effects is reduced by Tea barrier. And Nanoha never release her limiter. She just order RH to be in release mode (that's not mean to release her limiter).

So I dont think Nanoha is snapped. and Also is it alright for the trainee to attack with all their might (that's what always they do in the training anyway). The only cause is her dissapointment in Tia's action.

I agree with you. Nanoha only taught Teana what would happen if that had been a real battle. I believe the first shot was to "cool off" Teana and the second was to show Subaru what would be the consequences of their actions as Nanoha told her to stay quiet and watch.

Surely, the reasons for Nanoha doing that will appear in episode 9. Perhaps she tried to take on too many enemies by herself or, like Teana and Subaru, she did some reckless fighting. Because she would not just show such a scary/sad face and punish Subaru and Teana like that just for some recklessness during training.

carlanox · 2007-05-26, 16:18

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Originally Posted by Meophist

Had you read further, you'll find that there are a bunch who agree with you.

Edit: Thanks for registering anyways. Welcome to the AnimeSuki forums.

yeah. read it all now. Surprise me it actualy on page 40+.

Actually I've been here for 2 and half years. Just dont bother to post as I agree to all the comments (except for this 1 of coz)

btw, Is it Tia or Tea? Heard of Japanese named Tia but never heard of Tea....

and duh, who is the one who vote for 1 out of 10 <_> does he want to make Nanoha angrier than that.....

Meophist · 2007-05-26, 16:30

The name is officially "Teana", so the short-form will be "Tea", although it's pronouced more like "Tia".

Edit: Teana is also not Japanese.

Edit2: Also, you're not really "here" until you've registered.

Fuyu no Sora · 2007-05-26, 16:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlanox

ok you guys has forced me to register in this forum to make this comment. Sorry I only read till page 9.

Regarding Nanoha's punishment I think that it is not wrong at all.
When Tea failed in the mission, Nanoha did ask her to promise not to repeat her mistake again. Saying that she is not along and working as a team (where her job is a long range support).

But during the training, again Tea forget her promise and break the rule. She make Subaru do reckless atttacks and herself go to the front line (no longer as a support). What happens if it is the real mission and IF Tea failed the attack and disabled herself as a support for Subrau? That will make the whole team in danger.

That's why Nanoha punish Tea. Why she shot twice is because the first one effects is reduced by Tea barrier. And Nanoha never release her limiter. She just order RH to be in release mode (that's not mean to release her limiter).

So I dont think Nanoha is snapped. and Also is it alright for the trainee to attack with all their might (that's what always they do in the training anyway). The only cause is her dissapointment in Tia's action.

Welcome. And yeah, there are many of us that agree with you. It has been kind of a warring zone here, although this time on topic, with people lashing arguments back and forth about this subject ><.

Chaos2Frozen · 2007-05-26, 18:03

We're just repeating ourselves over and over again, so much so that we could just copy and paste over arguement when the next person comes in...

... Oh yeah, the gut-voter has been there ever since.

Meophist · 2007-05-26, 18:07

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

... Oh yeah, the gut-voter has been there ever since.

Actually, I think the episode was quite painful.

Chaos2Frozen · 2007-05-26, 18:18

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Originally Posted by Meophist

Actually, I think the episode was quite painful.

Literally? Or Metaphorical ?

panzerfan · 2007-05-26, 20:06

Anyone that is prepared to challenge the established rules within a military exercise should expect to receive what amounts to the penalties from insubordination... if anything, Tia had it easy.

What Tia did earlier can amount to lobbying, or "to make the critical question of 'why' become ambiguous and to substitute in emotion to the void." Unfortunately... to paraphrase even more, "if a soldier's intuition is totally correct, where would be no loser. If a policeman's intuition is flawless, there would be no wrongly accused. However what does reality indicate?" The gamble failed for Tia.

The more serious misgiving on Tia's part is to fall back to belief. "Belief is really just an excuse to dress up and legitimize one's past wrongs or foolish behaviors. The thicker the makeup, the harder it is to see through the facade beneath. " It is a rather dangerous path that should be checked early on.

FlareKnight · 2007-05-26, 21:55

Ah the discussion of this episode basically has surrounded the last few minutes. You'd think it'd be hard to have 800+ posts on one thing, but the skill is bringing it up again. Things were pretty intense when we just had screen shots to work with. It continued though especially until we got a small translation for that scene.

Maybe that person who voted 1 was a super Teana fan that didn't like her getting blown away?

Proto · 2007-05-26, 22:13

He voted that way before the episode even aired if my memory serves me well

hikaru2895 · 2007-05-26, 23:34

Question:
How do you tell who voted for what? I used to be able to just click on the vote and it would tell me, what happened?

Proto · 2007-05-27, 00:09

It just goes to show that mods grew tired of public votes, so we have returned to the secret vote old-school style.

Skyfall · 2007-05-27, 07:06

Nop, it just goes to show that i was being careless when creating the poll >.<" The votes have been made public.

Chaos2Frozen · 2007-05-27, 08:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProtoMan

It just goes to show that mods grew tired of public votes, so we have returned to the secret vote old-school style.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyfall

Nop, it just goes to show that i was being careless when creating the poll >.<" The votes have been made public.

Heheh...

That just made me smile

(And yeah, the gut-voter has been at it for quite some time...)

EDIT (1):

btw, where is episode 9's thread?

EDIT (2):
Ah, there it is

S_K · 2007-05-28, 20:45

I have a question on this episode, how come Nanoha got so mad during that test with subaru and teana, my understanding of japanese is not too good so an answer would be helpful.

An Hero in Disguise · 2007-05-28, 21:35

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Originally Posted by S_K

I have a question on this episode, how come Nanoha got so mad during that test with subaru and teana, my understanding of japanese is not too good so an answer would be helpful.

Well, I may not be the right person to answer this, as I didn't take part in the whole discussion on this matter, but making it short Subaru and Teana acted recklessly during the mock battle, ignoring what they were taught before, and on top of that Teana refused to stop after their attack failed, so Nanoha decided to show them what could be the consequencies of such actions. The motives behind Nanoha's actions are further explained in episode 9.

Ah, and most people would disagree that Nanoha actually got mad back then

FlareKnight · 2007-05-28, 22:16

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Originally Posted by S_K

I have a question on this episode, how come Nanoha got so mad during that test with subaru and teana, my understanding of japanese is not too good so an answer would be helpful.

Well I know how you felt in that regard. Not knowing what's going on is pretty tough. Earlier in the discussion a translation was put up for that scene. Let you have a read and decide on things

Spoiler for Script for the Scene:

View Poll Results: Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 08 Rating
Perfect 10	29	27.88%
9 out of 10 : Excellent	42	40.38%
8 out of 10 : Very Good	22	21.15%
7 out of 10 : Good	6	5.77%
6 out of 10 : Average	2	1.92%
5 out of 10 : Below Average	1	0.96%
4 out of 10 : Poor	0	0%
3 out of 10 : Bad	0	0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad	0	0%
1 out of 10 : Painful	2	1.92%
Voters: 104. You may not vote on this poll

2007-05-26, 18:03	Link #848
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	We're just repeating ourselves over and over again, so much so that we could just copy and paste over arguement when the next person comes in... ... Oh yeah, the gut-voter has been there ever since. __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2007-05-26, 20:06	Link #851
panzerfan Name means little... Graphic Designer Join Date: Dec 2004	Anyone that is prepared to challenge the established rules within a military exercise should expect to receive what amounts to the penalties from insubordination... if anything, Tia had it easy. What Tia did earlier can amount to lobbying, or "to make the critical question of 'why' become ambiguous and to substitute in emotion to the void." Unfortunately... to paraphrase even more, "if a soldier's intuition is totally correct, where would be no loser. If a policeman's intuition is flawless, there would be no wrongly accused. However what does reality indicate?" The gamble failed for Tia. The more serious misgiving on Tia's part is to fall back to belief. "Belief is really just an excuse to dress up and legitimize one's past wrongs or foolish behaviors. The thicker the makeup, the harder it is to see through the facade beneath. " It is a rather dangerous path that should be checked early on. __________________ It would be enough for the depressing things in life to only exist in reality. It is because that I think the birth of a story... is from people dreaming of a happy ending. ~Misaka Shiori

2007-05-26, 21:55	Link #852
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Ah the discussion of this episode basically has surrounded the last few minutes. You'd think it'd be hard to have 800+ posts on one thing, but the skill is bringing it up again. Things were pretty intense when we just had screen shots to work with. It continued though especially until we got a small translation for that scene. Maybe that person who voted 1 was a super Teana fan that didn't like her getting blown away? __________________ Anime-Evo

2007-05-26, 23:34	Link #854
hikaru2895 GPL Freedom Fighter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Space City Houston Texas	Finally caught up after reading 20 pages... Question: How do you tell who voted for what? I used to be able to just click on the vote and it would tell me, what happened? __________________ Our perception of reality is a useful abstraction.

2007-05-26, 13:06	Link #841
johnjefferson3 Member Join Date: Apr 2007	nanoha was just upset that both sabru and tiena never actually listed to nanoha and just did their own little thing, so nanoha had to make them so called "wake up" well, i think she finally gave her 2 slackers the message that you do not mess with nanoha (our white devil). now maybe sabru and tiena can finally accompish what there were actually be trained to do!!!! plus we are only 22 hours away from the airing of epsiode 9!!!! also some else posted, i think nanoha should run for us. presendent when she get older, if we had her now, their would be no war, becuase all of our enimes would be involutally befriended. ha ha!!!

2007-05-26, 15:51	Link #842
carlanox Junior Member Join Date: May 2007	ok you guys has forced me to register in this forum to make this comment. Sorry I only read till page 9. Regarding Nanoha's punishment I think that it is not wrong at all. When Tea failed in the mission, Nanoha did ask her to promise not to repeat her mistake again. Saying that she is not along and working as a team (where her job is a long range support). But during the training, again Tea forget her promise and break the rule. She make Subaru do reckless atttacks and herself go to the front line (no longer as a support). What happens if it is the real mission and IF Tea failed the attack and disabled herself as a support for Subrau? That will make the whole team in danger. That's why Nanoha punish Tea. Why she shot twice is because the first one effects is reduced by Tea barrier. And Nanoha never release her limiter. She just order RH to be in release mode (that's not mean to release her limiter). So I dont think Nanoha is snapped. and Also is it alright for the trainee to attack with all their might (that's what always they do in the training anyway). The only cause is her dissapointment in Tia's action.

2007-05-26, 15:55	Link #843
Meophist Member Join Date: Oct 2006	Had you read further, you'll find that there are a bunch who agree with you. Edit: Thanks for registering anyways. Welcome to the AnimeSuki forums.

2007-05-26, 16:30	Link #846
Meophist Member Join Date: Oct 2006	The name is officially "Teana", so the short-form will be "Tea", although it's pronouced more like "Tia". Edit: Teana is also not Japanese. Edit2: Also, you're not really "here" until you've registered.

2007-05-26, 22:13	Link #853
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	He voted that way before the episode even aired if my memory serves me well

2007-05-27, 00:09	Link #855
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	It just goes to show that mods grew tired of public votes, so we have returned to the secret vote old-school style.

2007-05-27, 07:06	Link #856
Skyfall Lost in my dreams... Join Date: Jun 2006 Age: 37	Nop, it just goes to show that i was being careless when creating the poll >.<" The votes have been made public. __________________

2007-05-28, 20:45	Link #858
S_K Let's begin! Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Age: 31	I have a question on this episode, how come Nanoha got so mad during that test with subaru and teana, my understanding of japanese is not too good so an answer would be helpful.