School Days - Episode 9 Discussion / Poll

[AvatarST]

It doesn't really matter how it goes in the court, though. The rapist can commit a crime and get away with it due to lack of evidence or whatever when he's tried, doesn't mean he didn't commit a crime by breaking the law, hence he's still a piece of trash.

Well, for me, that's what rapists are anyway . Your mileage may vary.

[Inari]

Originally Posted by PeeplesCuttino

Then turn around in the next episode:

Spoiler for Next Episode:

He sleep with a another girl that is not named Otome, Sekai or Koto and Otome shows the action scene that she and Makoto was doing to either Sekai or Koto

Oh, Makoto......He is the Legendary Real Men of Genius

Spoiler for next episode:

You mean he's going to sleep with a third girl??? Could it be Setsuna?

[l3LooDLusT]

Originally Posted by Inari

Spoiler for next episode:

You mean he's going to sleep with a third girl??? Could it be Setsuna?

Spoiler for for next episode:

hahaha i hope not shes not even fully develop yet could it be the girl with blue hair? or the pretzel hair girl? my money is on the pretzel girl lol i should put all the girls on SD so i wont be wrong lol he might just sleep with all of them if their willing lol

[Darkside]

"In comparison to other countries in the developed world, Japan has a unique prosecutorial system. Ninety-nine percent of criminal defendants are convicted in Japan, and almost all are convicted following their own confession. Prosecutors tend to bring charges only when they have a signed confession from the accused, and such confessions often occur after long questioning by police. Although defendants have a right to counsel, it is generally not possible for them to obtain counsel between their arrest and indictment. This makes it difficult to judge the true extent of criminal activity in Japan, since many possible criminals refuse to confess and are thus never indicted.

Japan has a death penalty that can be invoked by the Minister of Justice for murder, arson, and crimes against humanity. The death penalty's constitutionality has been challenged by some advocacy groups in Japan but continues to be upheld by the Supreme Court. There are five other basic forms of criminal punishment in Japan: imprisonment at hard labor, imprisonment, fine, detention (less than 30 days), and minor fine (less than ¥10,000). Japan has been criticized for giving lenient punishments for some crimes, most notably rape (which carries a typical sentence of 2–5 years in prison, and a theoretical maximum of fifteen).

Note: The penalties in the Criminal Law were revised and reinforced in 2004. Therefore, the lower limit of the penalty of rape is now three years in prison, with a theoretical maximum of twenty."



Source taken from Wikipedia

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Well, depends on what country you're talking about, but I'm fairly certain in Canada and the US this is not always the case. The court will side with those with evidence on their side, and if it comes down to "he said, she said" the victim will probably lose if the defense can pull up some dirt on the victim to create reasonable doubt of rape.

Unfournetly, its very hard for a rape victim to win a case. Rape is the only crime where the victim is literally on trail and has to prove that the defendent is guilty not the other way around. That is the reason why most rape victims wont come forward when it happens. Katsura's case would be very hard for her to prove in court. It would come down to he said she said and with no evidence and with Taisuke not having any previous criminal history on his recored he would get off. IT sucks but thats how it works there is no one to stand as a witness for her and im sure with how her messed up her mind was at the time, there will be peices that she cant remember. I would bet that she doesnt actually remember the rape its self but she remembers the afterwards part after Taisuke was done.

This is so tricky since this is taking place in Japan we dont know how their laws work. Like i said before though i have a friend who is looking up the rape laws for me since hes fluent in japanese

[D a m i e n]

for some reason these discusion make me laught.
from a stereotypical point of view the hero/main guy is supposed to be shy, weak, moderatly handsome at best and clumbsy with feelings, but when i m browsing these boards i giggle, cause it seems that the guy is stud adding girls to his cherrypop list.
i dont know what s happening in the anime but dont get so fired up, it s totally irealistic, i mean all the cute girls he encounter would already have a boyfriend and he would only have his hand to play with.
not to mention if the main guy is sensitive it s even worst, here are the only wise words my father ever told me when i asked him why girl were always attract by men that misstreat them.
"Son, womem dont like sensitve men, only sensitve men like sensitive men"

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by D a m i e n

for some reason these discusion make me laught.
from a stereotypical point of view the hero/main guy is supposed to be shy, weak, moderatly handsome at best and clumbsy with feelings, but when i m browsing these boards i giggle, cause it seems that the guy is stud adding girls to his cherrypop list.

la n'est certainement pas la question -___-"

The issue isn't exactly the setup at all, as it is absolutely not our usual love triangle/harem story.

i dont know what s happening in the anime but dont get so fired up, it s totally irealistic,

I feel some discussions are going overboard and too "passionate", of course.
But it is quite silly to pretend to be "not so fired up" if you didn't have a peek in this anime. it is like saying "why show "X" is so popular?" while the question can be answered by watching X.

i mean all the cute girls he encounter would already have a boyfriend and he would only have his hand to play with.

That is absolutely irrelevant.

not to mention if the main guy is sensitive it s even worst, here are the only wise words my father ever told me when i asked him why girl were always attract by men that misstreat them.
"Son, womem dont like sensitve men, only sensitve men like sensitive men"

Oi... what is the original french version of this sentence? i'm curious...
and seriously, that part cannot be claimed in such situation, considering we have the advantage of the third perspective.
The story cannot make everything "that obvious to everyone", otherwise, it wouldn't make any sense.

[D a m i e n]

sorry i agree, i cant really comment since i havent watch the show.
i was more commenting on the stereotype you too often encounter in romance anime, i dont really like those kind of anime so i always biased when commenting on them.
reguarding the personal feeling people put in anime well it s been a very long while since i ever felt personnaly involved in an anime.
The funny thing is that the last anime that ever moved me was kimi ga nozomu eien (yeah i know it s one of those romance anime i like to make fun of). KGNE even managed to make me cry!!!

as for what my father told me well the french version was something like that :
"Mon fils, les femmes aiment les hommes dures et les salauds. Seuls les hommes sensibles aiment les autres hommes sensibles"

[Sinestra]

Originally Posted by D a m i e n

sorry i agree, i cant really comment since i havent watch the show.
i was more commenting on the stereotype you too often encounter in romance anime, i dont really like those kind of anime so i always biased when commenting on them.
reguarding the personal feeling people put in anime well it s been a very long while since i ever felt personnaly involved in an anime.
The funny thing is that the last anime that ever moved me was kimi ga nozomu eien (yeah i know it s one of those romance anime i like to make fun of). KGNE even managed to make me cry!!!

as for what my father told me well the french version was something like that :
"Mon fils, les femmes aiment les hommes dures et les salauds. Seuls les hommes sensibles aiment les autres hommes sensibles"

Although School Days has made me want to cry several times it has not managed to get me into full blown out tears like KGNE did which is one of my favorite romance animes of all time. But they are both tragic in their own way. THey are both emotionally draining and for drama fanatics its perfect

[Echoes]

I think KgNE has a lot more genuine drama than School Days, and the characters there are believable, especially when set up against Kotonoha/Makoto. It deals with things we can relate to, life-choices and situations that would be hard to deal with for anyone, not abstract craziness like School Days. School Days offers something very different, so it's sort of unfair to compare them in that manner, at least in my case, as KgNE will always come out on top.

That being said, School Days offers a lot in terms of originality and tension, I'm always anxious to find out what's going to happen next. Right now, for example, I'm very anxious about the Taisuke/Kotonoha scene, I wonder how she'll react, and perhaps even more-so, what Taisuke will do next.

[Major1138]

Well while School Days seems to draw a lot of comparisons to KGNE, I don't think they are really that similar beyond the superficial - a somewhat unlikeable protagonist and a really messed up love triangle/polygon.

KGNE's drama is driven by forces beyond the character's control, and honestly, all the drama in the series arises from the decision pretty much every character takes to not tell the entire truth at one point or another. While we can all berate Takayuki for being horribly indecisive, or Mitsuki for stabbing her friend in the back (regardless if one agrees with either position) at least one can sort of sympathize with the situation they're all in, which would be pretty trying for even the most strong-willed of characters.

As mentioned, School Days is a whole 'nother kettle of fish. It's somewhat realistic in that high school relationships tend to be drama-to-the-max anyways, but the whole thing seems to push the limits of "how much drama can there be?" on a fairly regular basis. That's not to say it's not entertaining - I'm amazed at how they've managed to increase the drama with each subsequent episode without having the whole thing explode, and the ending, if nothing else, will be quite memorable.

[Deathkillz]

more evidance of kotonoha's downward spiral into nothingness...this "love" is turning into obsession and really isnt doing any good for her (i guess this is the time where i start to show pity knowing how she is the victim so far...mentally unstable or not this isnt her fault imo ~ blame makoto and sekai's alter ego) ~ but i must say that knee into his nuts really made me feel good! ++++ points for sekai heres hoping that he will become sterile ^__^

otome jumping in head first...oh the joys! haha!!! makoto really is a legend...so basically he will go for anything with 2 or more legs his comment on otome's appearence further sent him deeper into hell in my books :3 sekai giving otome the evil glare haha XD

"baka couple"

kokoro's friend is really smart ~

kotonoha getting bullied again *sigh* even without watching further i can just see kotonoha taking makoto into the lounge (head bashes!) ~ now sekai loses her points gained last ep reverting back into a baka...why the hell is she asking makoto to go to the dance with her! AGHHHH cant she see that this solves nothing if kotonoha still consideres makoto as her boyfriend!?

new pairing! taisuke x otome!

more burning! makoto finally picks up his phone and goes running to kotonoha only to be stopped by otome...hahahahaha!! tradition! XD this is really really bad...in a good way! so he beds otome...he really does have a memory span of a goldfish (oh dear i cant say that or i would be insulting the fishes! )

kotonoha still in denial and gets hooked up with taisuke...okey it was forced *sigh* she has been corrupted

the insert song + dance was beautiful...in a hellish way

oh how i love this series! 10/10

[Guido]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

more evidance of kotonoha's downward spiral into nothingness...this "love" is turning into obsession and really isnt doing any good for her (i guess this is the time where i start to show pity knowing how she is the victim so far...mentally unstable or not this isnt her fault imo ~ blame makoto and sekai's alter ego) ~ but i must say that knee into his nuts really made me feel good! ++++ points for sekai heres hoping that he will become sterile ^__^

otome jumping in head first...oh the joys! haha!!! makoto really is a legend...so basically he will go for anything with 2 or more legs his comment on otome's appearence further sent him deeper into hell in my books :3 sekai giving otome the evil glare haha XD

"baka couple"

kokoro's friend is really smart ~

kotonoha getting bullied again *sigh* even without watching further i can just see kotonoha taking makoto into the lounge (head bashes!) ~ now sekai loses her points gained last ep reverting back into a baka...why the hell is she asking makoto to go to the dance with her! AGHHHH cant she see that this solves nothing if kotonoha still consideres makoto as her boyfriend!?

new pairing! taisuke x otome!

more burning! makoto finally picks up his phone and goes running to kotonoha only to be stopped by otome...hahahahaha!! tradition! XD this is really really bad...in a good way! so he beds otome...he really does have a memory span of a goldfish (oh dear i cant say that or i would be insulting the fishes! )

kotonoha still in denial and gets hooked up with taisuke...okey it was forced *sigh* she has been corrupted

the insert song + dance was beautiful...in a hellish way

oh how i love this series! 10/10

I second.

Makoto's went all h-mode on Sekai or tried to, but she put in place at the nick of time with her patented knee on the loins.

But wait, there's Otome that got the hots for Makoto and chose to give herself a little push to bring Makoto to the rest area.
And they went on with the nasty.

The guy's just a shameless pig even scanning Otome with his h-vision and musing that she's hot as well.

Then Sekai doesn't help the situation by latching onto Makoto and declaring all four winds before the whole school that she's his girlfriend and lover.

A poor Kotonoha is descending into pathetic lameness as her eyes lose their shine and turns into a monochromatic doll, and the four bitches keep pestering her that she and Makoto aren't lovers but Kotonoha persists.
Man when is that girl going to learn that Makoto chases after the big or cute boobies his eyes can pry on.

The one character that made sense was Kokoro's friend, Uzuki, who immediately figured out that Makoto was in a deadlock between two girls or quoting her a complex among couples how adult to put it.