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Old 2011-06-27, 21:17   Link #7841
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I'm actually OK with Haruto getting together with Yuzuki, as long as there are actual consequences and they are long-lasting.

Seo failed hard in this area in Suzuka. He pulled the ultimate cop-out where everyone bends over backwards for the main couple and they face virtually no consequences.

I'm hoping for a different ending in Kimi no Iru Machi. I think it's possible to have a happy ending where the lead couple gets together without resorting to cop-outs. I'm actually seeing signs of such an ending, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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Old 2011-06-27, 22:25   Link #7842
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I'm actually OK with Haruto getting together with Yuzuki, as long as there are actual consequences and they are long-lasting.

Seo failed hard in this area in Suzuka. He pulled the ultimate cop-out where everyone bends over backwards for the main couple and they face virtually no consequences.

I'm hoping for a different ending in Kimi no Iru Machi. I think it's possible to have a happy ending where the lead couple gets together without resorting to cop-outs. I'm actually seeing signs of such an ending, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
?? what consequences are you talking about in Suzuka? He was single when he hooked up again, its not like there was another person or something stopping him. Unless you're talking about the sports part yet I still believe Suzuka was never a sports manga to begin with lol.
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Old 2011-06-27, 22:45   Link #7843
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?? what consequences are you talking about in Suzuka? He was single when he hooked up again, its not like there was another person or something stopping him. Unless you're talking about the sports part yet I still believe Suzuka was never a sports manga to begin with lol.
He meant the consequences from what happened after they got together, when...

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As for the sports part, it was leftovers from his previous long running series, Cross Over. Back then, he wrote an infuriating (basketball) sports story with many inaccuracies instead of an infuriating romance.
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Old 2011-06-27, 22:54   Link #7844
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He meant the consequences from what happened after they got together, when...

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As for the sports part, it was leftovers from his previous long running series, Cross Over. Back then, he wrote an infuriating (basketball) sports story with many inaccuracies instead of an infuriating romance.
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Old 2011-06-28, 09:31   Link #7845
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Old 2011-06-28, 11:16   Link #7846
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Honestly the entire circle of friends is a bunch of pig headed immature kids, not a single one of them steps back and try to see the bigger picture.
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Old 2011-06-28, 11:29   Link #7847
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Honestly the entire circle of friends is a bunch of pig headed immature kids, not a single one of them steps back and try to see the bigger picture.
Lol, true. I prophesy that in a couple of chapters they will see how idiotic they are behaving, stop with that nonsense, apologise and they will be friends again. But i´m not so sure abot Kiyomi. She seems to be really butthurt.
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Old 2011-06-28, 11:31   Link #7848
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I'd give them a bit of time. If something like this happens in a close friend circle, things tend to get REALLY awkward. I wanna see how they act 1-2 weeks after.
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Old 2011-06-28, 13:22   Link #7849
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Honestly the entire circle of friends is a bunch of pig headed immature kids, not a single one of them steps back and try to see the bigger picture.
Well, I think the issue is here, as Mentar said, they need time. Frankly, Haruto has been doing so many stupid things over the years for Eba and then, with this latest incident, hurt a good friend of theirs in the process, so their reactions are a bit understandable. Sometimes, you can only take so much of a friend doing things like this before you get sick of them.

In the end, they'll probably become friends again, but there will be a lot of lost respect for him after returning to someone who hurt him like that. After all, I know I couldn't really respect a friend who was constantly lying and hiding things from his girlfriend, while sneaking around behind her back with his ex. It's just not decent. Combined with his history of being selfish and refusing to listen to his friends advice and it makes it that much harder.

@Shadow5YA: What inaccuracies in Cross Over? You mean people can't really jump twice by pumping their legs in mid-air to get extra height?
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Old 2011-06-28, 13:28   Link #7850
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remember when rin chan tried to invite haruto into the house back then? she wanted to show him something...... i wonder.... ^.^

i really think rin chan have a crush on haruto, or is pretending to for some reason. anything to keep a series going without aborting it with a pregnancy like suzuka series.
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Old 2011-06-28, 13:38   Link #7851
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To borrow a term from soccer, Haruto's friends have given him the yellow card for "persistent infringement", as opposed to a "professional foul".

His closest friends (Takashi and Akari) will forgive him, I'm sure. However, it's the second yellow when it comes to Nanami so I wouldn't be too disappointed if she brushes him off for good.

Looking at it from Asuka's perspective, the offense was a straight red. She shouldn't have anything more to do with him - I really think this would be best for both parties.
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Old 2011-06-28, 14:31   Link #7852
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Honestly the entire circle of friends is a bunch of pig headed immature kids, not a single one of them steps back and try to see the bigger picture.
their actions seem justified to me they have given Haruto a free pass on a great many things. when you do finally say enough is enough? Both sides need time to let the healing process begin. Think about Asuka she lives right next to him, the best thing for her is no contact with Haruto. Everyone just needs time to cool their heads. His friends cant see the bigger picture because Haruto has not allowed them a screening of it.
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Old 2011-06-28, 15:04   Link #7853
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their actions seem justified to me they have given Haruto a free pass on a great many things. when you do finally say enough is enough? Both sides need time to let the healing process begin. Think about Asuka she lives right next to him, the best thing for her is no contact with Haruto. Everyone just needs time to cool their heads. His friends cant see the bigger picture because Haruto has not allowed them a screening of it.
Very wise comment.

I love now to see awkward interactions of Asuka and him, nothing else matters per se now ~
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Old 2011-06-28, 16:58   Link #7854
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Can you really blame the friends though?

Outside of the incident involving the dumb hot older classmate (BRING HER BACK DAMN IT) were any of them really around during all his other retardedly selfish fuck ups (correct me if I'm wrong)?

Nothing really seemed wrong from their point of view.
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Old 2011-06-28, 17:03   Link #7855
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You know, I'm a bit curious as to why Takashi never asked for an explanation; I mean they're childhood friends...to toss haruto by the wayside is a bit much. I agree with Sinestra in that they've given Haruto free passes, but how could Haruto give them the bigger picture if they don't let him screen it? I don't disagree really with their course of action..just curious.

Chibi what dumb hot older classmate? Jog mah memory pl0x~
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Old 2011-06-28, 17:08   Link #7856
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You know, I'm a bit curious as to why Takashi never asked for an explanation; I mean they're childhood friends...to toss haruto by the wayside is a bit much. I agree with Sinestra in that they've given Haruto free passes, but how could Haruto give them the bigger picture if they don't let him screen it? I don't disagree really with their course of action..just curious.

Chibi what dumb hot older classmate? Jog mah memory pl0x~
The lawyer wanting be a manga artist coming out of a love hotel with Haruto.

BTW - are you basing Takashi off from 141 raw? We still have to wait for few more chapters to assess what the friends would actually do.
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Old 2011-06-28, 17:10   Link #7857
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Can you really blame the friends though?

Outside of the incident involving the dumb hot older classmate (BRING HER BACK DAMN IT) were any of them really around during all his other retardedly selfish fuck ups (correct me if I'm wrong)?

Nothing really seemed wrong from their point of view.
Not really, Haruto kinda avoided getting them involved with any mess he got himself into, which I'd like to put out some of those times it was the friends that were witness to his mess ups(goes back to that coincidence thing Seo loves so much)

Haruto surprisingly doesn't lean on his friends in any way but then manga/anime never really takes up on that option, it's all gotta be on the MC shoulders to carry.
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Old 2011-06-28, 20:12   Link #7858
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You know, I'm a bit curious as to why Takashi never asked for an explanation; I mean they're childhood friends...to toss haruto by the wayside is a bit much. I agree with Sinestra in that they've given Haruto free passes, but how could Haruto give them the bigger picture if they don't let him screen it? I don't disagree really with their course of action..just curious.

Chibi what dumb hot older classmate? Jog mah memory pl0x~
This retardedly hotter older classmate~
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Old 2011-06-28, 22:18   Link #7859
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Shiori was an older classmate? I thought she was his senior.
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Old 2011-06-28, 22:24   Link #7860
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She was five chapter fodder, hell if I really cared what she was outside of fan service.

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