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View Poll Results: Bakemonogatari - Episode 11 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 33 | 27.05% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 49 | 40.16% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 22 | 18.03% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 11 | 9.02% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 3.28% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.82% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 1.64% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll |
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2009-09-19, 02:17 | Link #61 | |
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In same time, Nadeko teased and tested Koyomi`s conscience. It`s like a Cross-counter of mind game. I don`t think Nadeko is just a typical shy, innocent girl. She started invade Koyomi`s heart slowly. That`s why some Japanese Bakemonogatari-fan call Nadeko as "The real last boss"or "Dark/black Nadeko". |
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2009-09-19, 02:22 | Link #62 | |
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I also thought he was just checking for the snake marks... but if Senjouhara sees that he'll get much worse than snake bites... much much worse... I also enjoy seeing Hanekawa blushes while she glances sideway to look at what Ararararagi (Shitsurei, kamimashita!) is holding. There was no black or red screen this time around, right? |
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2009-09-19, 02:41 | Link #63 | |
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2009-09-19, 04:39 | Link #64 | ||
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2009-09-19, 05:53 | Link #65 |
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I disagree with the idea that smooth animation is what makes animation uniquely appealing. If I wanted to to get the illusion of movement by watching a sequence of still frames go by quickly, I'd watch a live action series. Those have perfect animation, if you haven't noticed.
What's uniquely appealing about the animated medium is the freedom of design. You can have impossible camera angles, costume design, settings, etc in a way that looks at least somewhat natural in that it all fits together. Put that kind of thing in live action and it stands out in contrast to the actors. In that sense, I think Bakemonogatari is beautiful, even in the obviously flawed episode 10. Things like the backgrounds in episode 3 strike me as the pinnacle of animation as a medium. Anyway, on the subject of the well animated sections that actually exist in Bakemonogatari, they can afford to be well done precisely because they're rationed. These things don't animate themselves you know. Animation is extremely time consuming and frankly tedious work. This is a weekly show that doesn't seem to have a particularly huge budget, so we could either have horrible and pointless animation spread out evenly (which wouldn't even make sense given the content as dictated by the dialog heavy source material) or mostly talking heads with a few awesome scenes every so often. |
2009-09-19, 09:51 | Link #67 |
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Just my point of view, but I'm a Shaft fan because I find the sort of stuff they do in their shows really takes advantage of the unique aspects of the animated medium. Stuff like neon-colored blood, strange but beautiful backgrounds and scenery, style-shifts, and all the other random things that get thrown in. You couldn't do any of those in a live-action context, and to me, that's part of what makes animation so appealing.
I mean, I suppose if they could put in more animation (without hurting the existing scenes of course) it'd be nice, but as others have stated they do have to make one of these every week. I dunno. Maybe it's just me. :\
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2009-09-19, 19:05 | Link #68 |
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I hate fanservice in this series of little girls.
To get the point I am 30 years old and 14 year olds naked or almost are not something I get a hard on off. This being said episode was good but I am busy so here are my thoughts in pic format:
This scene of Hanekawa and Araragi was cool and I liked as well as its signification, which varies among people. Spoiler for a:
THEY HAD TO INCLUDE MORE FAN SERVICE OF NADEKO! BOO! BOO! I ain't a pedophile! Spoiler for a:
Among the many funny faces of Araragi, I liked these! Spoiler for a:
OH GREAT! More proofs of Araragi being perverted scum! Spoiler for a:
Among the many poses of MOEFICATION of Nadeko, I liked this one a lot but it reminds of Mimi from Kodomo no Jikan's second season OP. The little cocky Nadeko made me also shiver as I have a weak side to tease girls. Two other poses that show THE MOEFICATION of Nadeko I liked. SOMEONE do a gif of the clap scene so I can save it on my USB. Spoiler for a:
LOL! Very funny of of Nadeko here. Spoiler for a:
A WTF and part of Hanekawa. Spoiler for a:
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WTF! WTF! Shinobu bites again! GAH! Stupid vampire crap again! QUESTION! Spoiler for a:
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2009-09-19, 19:15 | Link #69 |
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Maybe I just need to wait until the fansubs come out, but did Hanekawa-Nyaan drain people's lives or energy levels? I don't think they really died.
Is Hanekawa having a problem with Golden Week because her parents are split? I couldn't fully understand that part, but caught words like "okaasan", "nanimo", "otoosan ni". Is she going to visit her dad? |
2009-09-19, 19:25 | Link #70 | ||
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2009-09-19, 21:03 | Link #71 | |
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2009-09-19, 21:21 | Link #72 | |
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2009-09-19, 22:56 | Link #73 |
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Whoah, never imagined it was DV. I only thought it was bickering parents or somethin. What a hard life Hanekawa goes through everyday... Poor girl...
Anyways, this arc involves the flashback to Golden Week with Sawari-Neko's first attack, then going back to the present time line in the anime to see the Sawari-Neko coming back, right?
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2009-09-20, 02:12 | Link #74 | |
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I was going to wait till the sub appears before I open my yap, but I think I'll explode if I wait any longer.
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There was a lot of information about what brings out the Black Hanekawa. I'll call her Shiroi Hanekawa form as Black Hanekawa because it's aptly misleading, equally amusing, and yet describes the other Hanekawa perfectly. She is a bad kitty once in that form. Oshino says that she transforms in that form as a stress relief mechanism when she is under a tremendous amount of stress. What gives her those stress? Exams? boyfriend? Family? Thinking about that first scene, her family is most certainly the source of her stress. That's also seem to be the first clue about the opening scene was taking place in the past. The 2nd clue was when she touched and picked up that dead cat for a burial. Sawari neko. I'm speculating here of course. I'm not certain if I'm correct, but that's how I reasoned the opening scene happened in the past and what lead to her eventual transformation in the upcoming Golden Week. The flow of interesting information about Hanekawa continues and gives more ammunition for further speculation. As shown, Hanekawa was bitten by Shinobu. Since she is high up in the food chain, being a vampire and all, she was able to energy-drain the Black Hanekawa aka Shirai Neko to the usual Hanekawa. Speculation starts here..... Hanekawa never had a resolution to her Black Hanekawa problem. It simply means that Black Hanekawa never appeared since Shinobu's own version of energy drain on Black Hanekawa. The question is why didn't Hanekawa transform into Black Hanekawa since then? The answer is she coped with her stress one way or the other since then instead of letting it built to a critical stage which would trigger the Black Hanekawa transformation. So what were those steps she took to keep the stress at a tolerable level? She stayed away from home as long as possible. She talked to Araragi and enjoyed spending time with him. A certain checks-and-balance was reached to keep the Black Hanekawa at bay. All signs of symptoms disappeared...... well, until now. So what is triggering the familiar symptom to her transformation? Once again, the obvious answer has to be stress. So, what is causing her stress? Her family is always a suspect. But then, a major clue to her new- found stress is thrown at us when Araragi ponders to himself if there is someone suitable for Hanekawa who is kinder than anyone else. And it seems he was going to voice that question, but then.... he stops short. Hanekawa, near the end of the episode tells Araragi that he is kind when he keeps pestering her about going to hospital and etc... Here comes further speculation: Araragi is now officially involved with Senjougahara. As a result, the checks and balance is tipped. Araragi's very company used to help Hanekawa to cope with her stress. Now she can't be with Araragi as much out of decency and consideration for Senjougahara. And so her stress level is on the rise again. Now the real question is why is Hanekawa stressing over the lack of Araragi's company? Why indeed? And then it hits me...... You effin' lucky bastard Araragi.................. I am so looking forward to this arc. P.S. DV stands of Domestic Violence just in case anyone isn't familiar with the acronym. P.P.S The two other piece of information that give further rise to speculation were: a) Shinobu bit Black Hanekawa. It's an interesting information because of what we know about Araragi's abilities. b) Sengoku observed Shinobu gave her and Kanbaru a sort of look which entirely different from when Shinobu looks at Araragi or Oshino. The following was the look Sengoku got from Shinobu: Dilligent usage of my index finger placed on top of the mouse by gently caressing it and pressing on it over and over and over till the job was done. Did that answer your question? Media Player Classic also helped out a lot.
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2009-09-20, 03:26 | Link #75 | |
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If we're talking about the risk of having uneven animation and all, we see that all the time with A1 and Gainax and you can see the iron balls they have for attempting it if at least to bring forth it as an animation. I do think this may be personal taste, but I'd rather see them try it bleeding from their eyes rather than use static screens and total emptiness as a segway. That said, I actually strangely do admire Shaft for at least attempting this, even though I personally don't think it's been successful throughout. |
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2009-09-20, 03:43 | Link #76 | ||
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2009-09-20, 04:08 | Link #77 |
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2009-09-20, 04:22 | Link #78 |
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MONIR AND OMIMON.....YOU ARE THE BEST! Thanks a lot for explanations! CLEARED UP A LOT!
I wonder if Japan is pointing out in this anime, with this arc that people are not themselves when stressed too much and if they commit crimes because of stress? INTERESTING POINT, would you not agree? You guys get reps from me! |
2009-09-20, 04:46 | Link #79 | |
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In this episode, for example, Shaft have to reorganize the story to the point it makes at least three novel readers in this thread feel disappointed in order to actually animate something and make it interesting, otherwise this episode would be nothing but standing in front of the school gate and talk. Camera panning often used in this series is also a lot of work animation-wise, but not a lot people will actually impressed by it. Though Shaft may lack of resources, they're already trying with the series. |
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2009-09-20, 05:42 | Link #80 | |
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Probably, it will be insufficient as a reason. It will not be guilty if her mental disorder of a multiple personality disorder is proved. In this case, it will not be guilty that she injured her parents, because Araragi can prove DV. |
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