2007-07-15, 20:34 | Link #922 |
Dansa med oss
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky
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This can be remedied somewhat by learning a character as a whole: meaning, character, and pronunciation[s] as a single hunk rather than separately. It's more work initially, but it saves time and effort in the long run.
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2007-07-15, 21:47 | Link #924 | |
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Really, I just need to keep practicing. Eventually I'll get it. |
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2007-07-15, 22:48 | Link #925 | |
Dansa med oss
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I've been using this for a few days, and it's definitely working. Of course, real results will take a while to gauge, but my initial impression is promising. |
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2007-07-15, 23:07 | Link #926 |
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For kanji, I usually do better, when approaching a combination I don't know, remembering different combinations that involve the kanji in question, instead of learning the pronunciation by heart. I do that all the time when I'm reading heavy Japanese text (I hate resorting to a dictionary).
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2007-07-16, 08:48 | Link #927 | ||
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That's good advice, I also find it easier to keep the readings in mind when I got a sample word for each one on my flashcards. In case of some kanji with lots and lots of readings there's not enough space though. ^^
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2007-07-17, 22:55 | Link #928 |
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I just watched Hayate no gotoku eps16, and a reference to tatsumaki senpukyaku(hurricane kick) and the arrows got me wondering. Using the japanese IME, is there a way to get diagonal arrows the way you get up/down/left/right arrows.
For instance: うえ=↑、 した=↓ みぎ=→ ヒダリ=← |
2007-07-20, 23:40 | Link #930 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
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I'm not sure what that had to do with my post since I was just saying that using flashcards was a helpful way to memorize kanji, but I'd like to let you know "jap" is considered a derogatory racial slur in some parts of the world in the same way that "chink", "wop", or "dago" is meant to dehumanize.
Since this is a global internet, you might take that into consideration before using it online.
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2007-08-12, 02:48 | Link #931 |
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Random tiny story:
I've been e-mailing my future Japanese tutor *in* Japanese and accidently sent an e-mail with a huge mistake. I e-mailed her again with the correct way to say it and I apologized for having poor Japanese skillz.... Of course, her immediate response is that I'm very skilled in Japanese. I should've known she'd say that! That's really the universal thing to say to foreigners who're mangling your language, isn't it. |
2007-08-12, 03:09 | Link #932 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Aye... I think that is genetically lasered into all japanese language teachers and the general population for that matter.
1) They seem incapable of correcting a verbal disaster. The closest my instructor comes is to say, "that's very interesting. You can also say it this way" 2) And of course, it isn't that the bear dances well, it is that it dances at all.
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2007-08-12, 06:39 | Link #933 |
Dansa med oss
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky
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It's kind of endearing at first, but after a while it gets annoying. After the bear has been dancing a little while, it's a good idea to start showing it how to keep a beat...
Fortunately I have two Japanese friends who will give it to me straight and one who will first say something indirect like "it's, uh... very much like you" when I ask what I did wrong and then proceed to correct me upon further prodding. Strangers, however, will toss a 'jouzu' my way no matter how much i stutter and omit key particles. |
2007-08-12, 11:03 | Link #934 |
日本語を食べません!
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: San Francisco
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If it weren't for this forum, my Japanese skills would go completely unused.
I figure they've deteriorated quite a bit at this point, which would make me the perfect recipient of the "Wow...you're really good!" reaction. The only time I got the "That's an...interesting...expression" was during a skit when I apparently invented a phrase: すみません、今頭が遅い (すみません、いま あたま が おそい です for those who can't read kan'ji) at which point the teacher said, "Your head is...slow? Never heard that before, but I guess it makes sense." I figure that once you're fairly decent at Japanese, you won't be hearing anymore about how skilled you must be at it. |
2007-08-12, 11:54 | Link #935 |
Without Love
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Locked up in my room, in fears the neighbours will infest my house with....GRASSHOPPERS.
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I watched all my movies I had in the Japanese, anime that was subbed,(even some of my FUNimation DVDs worked when I switched to a certain subtitles..) and manga. Me and my friends often speak little words of it at school. Me and my cuz mix French into it. I also use my cuz's Japanese dictionary, which also gives you the kanji and romaji.(That is what it's called, right?) I have to help my cuz with her sentences so she can write to Kaoru to show she's improving, except, I helped. XD
I used a little kids online dictionary...he he..and pronunciation isn't really that hard for me. But now all my L's in English come out as W's. o_O I sound really messed up when I speak English now.. |
2007-08-12, 16:20 | Link #937 | |
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2007-08-12, 18:42 | Link #938 |
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I found a few japanese video tutorials called Basic Japanese on stage6.com. Each episode is half an hour long. I dunno if it is accurate but it's pretty good and detailed.
Here's the link: http://stage6.divx.com/videos/search:Basic+Japanese |
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