Kanon - 2006 - Episode 21 Discussion / Poll

[Owaranai Destiny]

Episode 21 thoughts:

Not much, considering how intense the discussion has been in the thread for certain issues.

-It's Nayuki's stage, and she's the leading role here. She's involved in everything here-The search for the angel doll, Yuuichi's moping, her own past (duh) and Akiko's accident. I think it's safe to say there's a hell lot more development on her character here than in every other episode we've seen her. The irony's not lost on me, though...First she tries to comfort Yuuichi, yet in the next episode she's the one who needs comfort (but apparently refuses it, as seen in the preview).

-Kudos for the Mai reference. I like that little touch.

-Humor noticeably missing from the episode mostly, but you know what happens with Piro, Nayuki and Yuuichi in the same room...

-Now I start getting the YuuichixAyu pairing more, especially with the flashbacks. Besides that, I'm pretty sure most of us first-timers start getting what's going on, finally, with the second promise.

-That was pretty....intense, for Akiko-san. I hope she makes it out just fine, without too many injuries or bruises.

Somehow, Nayuki's arc seems to reek of the greatest melancholy and sadness around, and her interaction with Yuuichi as well as her attempts to cheer him up just made me like her a little more. Well, next week, we get to see another different side of Nayuki. Looking forward to it.

9/10.

[DannyCat]

Speaking of who's dead or not,

Spoiler:

the only character in the entire series so far who's actually and verifiably died so far is Sayuri's little brother. Nobody else ever left a body behind.

Ayu, Shiori, and Akiko are all (probably) still alive in the hospital, and Makoto's in some indeterminate state.

[FatPianoBoy]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

imagine yuuichi disappearing off for another few years and comming back with a surprise...how bout meeting ayu on the same bench and cue the end credits! :3

That would be more maddeningly ambiguous and WTF than even the Kashimashi TV series ending. I vote 'no' for this.

[Deathkillz]

well i duno...think how AIR ended...i think i would like something like that to happen so i can experience what it is like to have sleepless nights again ~ but then again i duno how the original kanon ended so that doesnt give me any measure of appropriateness ~

[orion]

Well. I wouldn't want to bring up Air's true ending here. It's not something you'd want to see in Kanon (unless you're npal. )

Besides a "no girl" win ending is going against Kanon's game mechanics, Kanon's principle of miracles and who is the real lover in this story (i.e, who's path is the major path in this series). This title is just merging all the game paths.

Spoiler:

Akiko is an extremely important and necessary character for the game and anime. Kyo-Ani is being faithful to the game. You could prob estimate how critical she really is going to be by the condition of the cake/bag on the street.

[Maritime]

Originally Posted by Mirrinus

Maritime, you're not alone. I also don't really see Yuuichi and Nayuki really working out, and it's NOT because they're cousins (having been born in China, it didn't strike me as being too weird). While it's undeniable that Nayuki has feelings for Yuuichi, I've seen very little indication that it could work the other way around. Romantic affection-wise, I'd probably rate Nayuki second to last out of all the girls, beating out only Makoto (whom I saw as having more of a father-daughter relationship, especially by the end). Yuuichi has treated her like a sibling throughout the entire show, I can't really see it changing drastically in just an episode or two.

I agree. Until now I've really only seen Nayuki as a 'lighten the mood' sort of character who's only wheeled out every now and again to perform her sleepy-schtick routine to bring some humour to the episode. Compared to Makoto (who I also believed had a father/daughter relationship with Yuuichi) and Ayu (who's easily THE primary female in the series) she's done very little, from a romantic standpoint, to endear herself to Yuuichi and I'd hate to see them end up together just because she becomes the only girl left at the end.

[qwerty4]

This episode was better than i expected.
I feel sorry for Nayuki.
I knew that Akiko was going to be in an accident so i thought it wouldnt shock me as much as 2k2. But this scene was so...dramatic and powerful it sent shivers down my spine and back up again. It was so sudden and well put together that it shocked me even though i knew what was next. Brilliant scene.
Love this epi.

[Mirrinus]

I'm amazed at how shocking that scene could be even when so many of us watching it here already knew it was going to happen. I knew the accident was coming long before, but that scene (especially the build-up) was so heart-pounding, it was more intense than Higurashi...

[qwerty4]

Oh yes and Akiko better not die. The way the accident happened here it seems impossible to survive. but then again this program is about miracles.
Akiko is such a great character ^^

[orion]

Poor Nayuki...

Spoiler:

If she hadn't said strawberry cake, Akiko would be home making dinner. Poor Yuichi too. Now that he remembers everything, I want to see him resolve this mess.

That accident was a nice piece of bloodless animation. Maybe, they will add in the blood in the DVD. Minus .5.

Yeah, it looks like it's Nayuki's turn to crumble. Come on, Kaede!

So, did fubar84 explain that score?

[toxic_trance]

Poor fubar84 voted a 1 for Kanon by mistake. He exchanged the votes between SHUFFLE Memories and Kanon

[Vexx]

rewatch of ep 21 .... for some reason I find Nayuki's voice just kind of entrancing to listen to .... she's got those frequencies really hitting the neural wires. Its a little unfortunate they had her rather backgrounded after the few episode or two (or in scenes reacting to Ayu) but I suppose that had to do with the amount she's going to get focused on her now.

Next episode is undoubtedly going to be pretty painful as the revelations start piling up.

[Merridew]

Originally Posted by Owaranai Destiny

-It's Nayuki's stage, and she's the leading role here. She's involved in everything here-The search for the angel doll, Yuuichi's moping, her own past (duh) and Akiko's accident. I think it's safe to say there's a hell lot more development on her character here than in every other episode we've seen her. The irony's not lost on me, though...First she tries to comfort Yuuichi, yet in the next episode she's the one who needs comfort (but apparently refuses it, as seen in the preview).

It's like Nayuki's/Yuuichi's flashback except reversed. Yuuichi didn't want Nayuki's sympathy 7 years ago. Now it's Nayuki's turn. Is this her revenge? I felt sorry for her in the preview

[fubar84]

Originally Posted by toxic_trance

Poor fubar84 voted a 1 for Kanon by mistake. He exchanged the votes between SHUFFLE Memories and Kanon

As it turns out, I did actually manage to vote correctly for Shuffle Memories ep 7. So I don't really know what I was thinking, it's madness, MADNESS!
Just for the records, I should've given Kanon ep 21 a tenner obviously. NYU

[Bloody Nightingale]

Originally Posted by Merridew

It's like Nayuki's/Yuuichi's flashback except reversed. Yuuichi didn't want Nayuki's sympathy 7 years ago. Now it's Nayuki's turn. Is this her revenge? I felt sorry for her in the preview

But that's the point of the drama in Nayuki's arc i think, U1 suffered a loss and shuts himself into despair 7 years ago, where Nayuki tried to comfort him (even tho she doesn't seem to have any idea what he gone through).... and now its Nayuki's turn to shut herself from everyone else, and U1 to bring her hope. This pretty much how u describe Nayuki's arc in simplicity.

[Ascaloth]

Originally Posted by orion

Poor Nayuki...

Spoiler:

If she hadn't said strawberry cake, Akiko would be home making dinner. Poor Yuichi too. Now that he remembers everything, I want to see him resolve this mess.

That accident was a nice piece of bloodless animation. Maybe, they will add in the blood in the DVD. Minus .5.

Yeah, it looks like it's Nayuki's turn to crumble. Come on, Kaede!

So, did fubar84 explain that score?

Originally Posted by toxic_trance

Poor fubar84 voted a 1 for Kanon by mistake. He exchanged the votes between SHUFFLE Memories and Kanon

Originally Posted by fubar84

As it turns out, I did actually manage to vote correctly for Shuffle Memories ep 7. So I don't really know what I was thinking, it's madness, MADNESS!
Just for the records, I should've given Kanon ep 21 a tenner obviously. NYU

Can someone make me a gif of the scene where Yuuichi whacked Makoto one over the head with a newspaper?

Once that's done, I'm posting it up here just for fubar84. Makoto=fubar84, Yuuichi=me.

[Bloody Nightingale]

Originally Posted by Ascaloth

Can someone make me a gif of the scene where Yuuichi whacked Makoto one over the head with a newspaper?

Once that's done, I'm posting it up here just for fubar84. Makoto=fubar84, Yuuichi=me.

I dunno how to get it to show up here, and mite need some compressing too but... hope this helps =)

[Tiberium Wolf]

God Damnit! That accident scene was scary! If there were blood there then the impact on the viewers would be greater!

[orion]

Well, I don't think that chibi Nayuki was trying to comfort chibi Yuichi. She hadn't a clue about what was happening and was trying to confess to him. When he didn't respond, it dawned on her finally that something was wrong and the rest is history.

Talk about clueless. Sorry, no sympathy from me for that scene. That was the worst case of poor timing I've seen.

Spoiler:

Translation to modern day....

Nayuki: Yuichi, I've been looking for you.
Yuichi: sob, sob
Nayuki: You're going away for a long time, but you'll be back next year, right?
Yuichi: . . .
Nayuki: I made this snow bunny for you. I love you.
Yuichi: *Thinks of the events preceding this moment for the last time* Slaps that snow bunny out of her hand and thinks, "Man. she is clueless. I'm crying on the bench. My world is ending and she wants to confess."

In reality, a lot worse would have been said by some kids.

It's like modern day Nayuki. It finally dawned on her in the coffee shop that he loved Ayu. She's not tuned into Yuichi's feelings as much as Ayu was imo.

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That's a good one Bloody Nightingale.

[Kinny Riddle]

Originally Posted by Ascaloth

Can someone make me a gif of the scene where Yuuichi whacked Makoto one over the head with a newspaper?

Once that's done, I'm posting it up here just for fubar84. Makoto=fubar84, Yuuichi=me.

Just when everyone thought Kanon 2006 was finally gonna get an episode with a decent "clean-sheet" record of no gutter votes below 5 (when even our favourite serial gutter-voter voted a remarkably high 7), then comes fubar84 with his horrendously unforgivable mistake. lol

He must be reminded of this blunder for eternity by all Kanon 2006 fans in this board. While I pity the poor bastard, he kind of brought it upon himself.