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Old 2010-03-10, 08:48   Link #2281
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The characterization seems very ridicule, how to explain:

SPOILER:


Vanille start to speak (shouting too) about her defense line for Pulse, because the other hate a place without know it, etc...etc.. and all the others totally ignore her like perfect groggy.
Thanks this basis you understand already one of next "sensational development" like the character in the party had to understand in a second, but...
At last the story is written for japanese people how like to japanese people, but for us, is very....ridicule.
Its a lot easier if you just say you didn't like the game

I really enjoy the characters and how they interact towards each other and the rest. Can't say I'm overly thrilled with Snows' emo attitude "I'm going to save everyone" but it still fits him and I'll live with it.
I have to admit I was kinda lost in the beginning with the story but I think it played out well, the whole Datalog option is really helpful to understand what happens if you are lost.
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Old 2010-03-10, 08:48   Link #2282
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I Loved the scenes of Sarah And Snow
You mean Seraph and snow?

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Old 2010-03-10, 10:00   Link #2283
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Its a lot easier if you just say you didn't like the game

I really enjoy the characters and how they interact towards each other and the rest. Can't say I'm overly thrilled with Snows' emo attitude "I'm going to save everyone" but it still fits him and I'll live with it.
I have to admit I was kinda lost in the beginning with the story but I think it played out well, the whole Datalog option is really helpful to understand what happens if you are lost.
Look, in a sort of realistic way, if you're with people hate another country and their population and you're the only one defend what the others hate....a idiot can understand the meaning of it too.

But the reaction of other characters are non-existent, they seem come from the screenwriting school of "Lost".
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Old 2010-03-10, 10:28   Link #2284
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Look, in a sort of realistic way, if you're with people hate another country and their population and you're the only one defend what the others hate....a idiot can understand the meaning of it too.

But the reaction of other characters are non-existent, they seem come from the screenwriting school of "Lost".
Actually, there will always be varied reactions to characters. There are still a lot of people who aren't quite sold/who don't like the characters now. I wouldn't worry about having an opinion.
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Old 2010-03-10, 14:45   Link #2285
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Pretty poor game overall nearly all the gameplay elements are stolen from older final fantasys or other games and it feels like your walking down one long tunnel.
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Old 2010-03-10, 15:26   Link #2286
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Pretty poor game overall nearly all the gameplay elements are stolen from older final fantasys or other games and it feels like your walking down one long tunnel.
I just got into the Pulse Fal'cie and it's definitely not a tunnel. I'm also only about 2 hours in and not 3 as has been advertised. Also generally FF games tend to build on their predecessors while also doing a bit of their own thing. This game is no different. Basically if you like Final Fantasy (like I do) you will probably find a lot to like about this game, but if you don't then it's not going to be a gateway game. That's my assessment.

Anyway got to hear Vanille's voice last night and it is indeed confusing to say the least. Like...does she have an accent or what cause I can't really tell? I think that's her speaking as the narrator with a faux British accent that a lot of actors do when they don't have anything distinctive to go on for a fictional culture, but then she has the put on voice for when she's talking in game that is all childlike. And yet sometimes she still sounds like she has an accent like when she's introducing herself to Fate...and then it's gone again mid sentence. Sloppy voice work (or rather a character read) is indeed a definite possibility. Hopefully whoever they got for her sorts her role out as the game goes on or it could be an immersion breaker.

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Spoiler for Vanille's Voice Acting:

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Old 2010-03-10, 17:01   Link #2287
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1090 pesos for the game (about 86 dollars), going as high as 1150 pesos in some places. >_<

I didn't wanted to rent this game, but I may well end up doing just that.
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Old 2010-03-10, 17:11   Link #2288
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Spoiler for Vanille's Voice Acting:
The Aussie accent really comes out during the monologues, but yeah i can't blame people for not noticing. I've been around the accent for some time, so i guess i'm just used to it.
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Old 2010-03-10, 17:11   Link #2289
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Pretty poor game overall nearly all the gameplay elements are stolen from older final fantasys or other games and it feels like your walking down one long tunnel.
This is a joke, right?
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Old 2010-03-10, 17:14   Link #2290
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Pretty poor game overall nearly all the gameplay elements are stolen from older final fantasys or other games and it feels like your walking down one long tunnel.
Never play Fire Emblem or The Legend of Zelda. In fact, watch out for any series of games.
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Old 2010-03-10, 17:35   Link #2291
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This is a joke, right?
I hope so too. It's like saying Street Fighter IV stole from SF 3 which stole from SF Alpha which stole from SF2.
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Old 2010-03-10, 17:37   Link #2292
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This is a joke, right?
Nearly every final fantasy before has used a new system FF13 just copys it's components from other game.

ATB=Panzer dragoon saga apart from having to wait for the full ATB to fill before you can do anything.
Paradigms=watered down job system from X-2
Crystogenesis=FF10 sphere grid just with even less customization
Staggering enemy=Ar Tonelico

I could go on but I can't be arsed.
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Old 2010-03-10, 17:38   Link #2293
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Vanille's VA's other works dubbed over random scenes from FFXIII, possible spoilers:


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Old 2010-03-10, 18:12   Link #2294
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Nearly every final fantasy before has used a new system FF13 just copys it's components from other game.

ATB=Panzer dragoon saga apart from having to wait for the full ATB to fill before you can do anything.
Paradigms=watered down job system from X-2
Crystogenesis=FF10 sphere grid just with even less customization
Staggering enemy=Ar Tonelico

I could go on but I can't be arsed.
Except you're still wrong.

ATB=Appeared in FFIV and other FFs before PDS, all they did was add chain commands which isn't unique to any game.
Paradigm= No their not, it a fusion of the Gambitlike A.I. and the Job system.
Crysturism= Close, but not exactly. It's class version of that system.
Staggering=Concept has existed before that game (Xenosaga 2) and just because that game did it first doesn't mean the Dev team copied it.

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Old 2010-03-10, 20:48   Link #2295
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Anyway got to hear Vanille's voice last night and it is indeed confusing to say the least. Like...does she have an accent or what cause I can't really tell? I think that's her speaking as the narrator with a faux British accent that a lot of actors do when they don't have anything distinctive to go on for a fictional culture, but then she has the put on voice for when she's talking in game that is all childlike. And yet sometimes she still sounds like she has an accent like when she's introducing herself to Fate...and then it's gone again mid sentence. Sloppy voice work (or rather a character read) is indeed a definite possibility. Hopefully whoever they got for her sorts her role out as the game goes on or it could be an immersion breaker.

Edit:

Spoiler for Vanille's Voice Acting:
While she may be Australian, she sounds more Irish to me.
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Old 2010-03-10, 22:07   Link #2296
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Except you're still wrong.

ATB=Appeared in FFIV and other FFs before PDS, all they did was add chain commands which isn't unique to any game.
Paradigm= Not their not, it a fusion of the Gambitlike A.I. and the Job system.
Crysturism= Close, but not exactly. It's class version of that system.
Staggering=Concept has existed before that game (Xenosaga 2) and just because that game did it first doesn't mean the Dev team copied it.
Wasn't saying they where the frist they where just examples off the top of my head.
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Old 2010-03-10, 22:10   Link #2297
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If I try, I can make a fine game like Uncharted 2 a completely rip-off from other games, too.

The question lies here is whether it's good or not. Original is overrated.
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Old 2010-03-10, 22:36   Link #2298
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Old 2010-03-11, 03:47   Link #2299
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Just tried the English dub today at friend's... overall the VA and all are okay, but I got really confused when I had to do Optima-- sorry, I meant Paradigm Shift. It was kind of funny because I couldn't get used to the "Commando" and "Ravager" and all that. Had to base it on the colours from the Japanese version (Red = ATK/COM, blue = BLA/RAV, etc).

Anyway, since everybody's talking about Vanille's voice, does anybody notice that she has accents that ranges from Australia, Britain, Texas, to American? I don't know, that's what I noticed. Doesn't really bother me though, I actually find it kind of cute.

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Old 2010-03-11, 04:05   Link #2300
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Another Jrpg with a bad dub and no JP audio option.

Another Jrpg I won't be buying.

meh.
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