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Old 2014-07-05, 10:01   Link #41
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i guess i in the diffrence from everybody becouse I love the transformation the cgi didn't distract me becouse I was fascinated by how it was basically the exact same thing as the 90's transformation: many of the same poses, all of the same visual motifs, even a very similar order of events but with closer frames, dynamic shots, and extreme perspectives. I admit that the noodly arm is distracting, but I understand that they were trying to create an exaggerated sense of scale to express her power,
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Old 2014-07-05, 10:12   Link #42
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Umm, I will say this. I did not grow up with Sailor Moon. Let me repeat that: I DID NOT grow up with Sailor Moon.

I knew about her, I saw the toy commercials, but Sailor Moon was not on the TV channels I got as a kid, and also my mother, who controlled our TV time, didn't allow us to watch anime. So, no, Sailor Moon has no nostalgic significance to me.

The first time I ever saw an episode of the old show, I was twenty and in college. I just watched it to see why some of my friends had liked it so much. And I can tell you now, that I watched one episode, and I was done. The saccharine stupidity, the annoying voices, the boring plot, the ridiculous "romance", the nonsensical villains, I just couldn't take it and gave up. It was obvious that whatever window that Sailor Moon had, to become a part of my life had long since passed. I gave up trying to see what everyone else saw in it and just decided to watch the abridged series, which I did find hilarious.

I decided to look at this new series to see if an updated look could get me into the Sailor Moon craze.

Nope.

Just as simple, idiotic, and annoying as I remembered and I cannot stand Usagi as a character. There were a couple of good animation shots here and there of space and the moon and what not, but nope, I dropped this thing like a hot potato.

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Old 2014-07-05, 10:13   Link #43
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edit: @Irenesharda: I completely understand where you're coming from, since a lot of that bothered me as a kid watching and reading the material. I wasn't allowed to watch anime either... err, I did anyways, though
Given the issues you raise, if you're really interested and haven't tried yet, you may find the (new translation of the*) manga more palatable, since it does away with a few of those and foregoes the problem of obnoxious voices altogether.
You will probably- like me- still find the romance annoying and dislike Usagi's attitude to her love interest (You just want to slap sense into her and wish the princess and her romance were a different character. Theirs is one of my least favourite "love stories" of all time.), but it may give you a better idea of some of the positive aspects of the series.
For me that is mostly every other character and some of the meatier, unfortunately very rushed arcs (Stars, Infinity, Dark Moon- the first two arcs are the weakest imo whereas after that it gets a lot more interesting, as the story turns darker). Usagi also comes across quite a bit more likeable in print. Mind you, it's of course somewhat dated and it has flaws, but it may work a bit better for you

*the original english, mirrored translation is... yeah, don't read that.

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They are too expensive, obviously... And the episode was bad, it's a little better than my expectations after the leaks, but still it is STILL . Also Crunchy and Hullu missed the preview of the next episode. Hello striking art variations.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6eybZnymPc after the ending of course
Is it just me or does the preview look a bit better than this episode? It seems a bit more crisp and is that a funny face I spot Usagi pulling? Or is it Ami making everything a bit better with her mere presence?
Full of derpy frames still, but that's expected.

I understand and agree with a lot of the criticism, especially that it lacks the personality of the source and the material having some aspects that will inevitably look dated if they're not changed.
But what makes you feel it was outright bad? It had some good points, I thought. Enough to make me think it has some potential
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Old 2014-07-05, 10:18   Link #44
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Finished episode 1.
Decent episode.

From the OP, I like everyone's updated looks OTHER than Usagi.
Especially Mars and Jupiter, man, they look amazing!

I wish they release some Sailor V OVAs, I was always interested in her solo adventures.

I liked the fast pacing of this 1st episode.
Again, my only real complaint is the CGI transformation. Even if its more expensive, they're going to be using it every episode anyway, so its not like a one time use. Its just being cheap on shrimping out on the 'best 20 hype seconds' of every episode.

The battle sequences I found very fun and actionly. The look of moon tiara just hitting the monster and her getting instant death'd was great.
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Old 2014-07-05, 10:21   Link #45
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Watched the first episode and aside from the CGI sequence, it's sure going to be a great revival in upcoming episodes!

Still, I wonder what's next after Crystal since this anime series will only focus on the first story arc?
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Old 2014-07-05, 10:26   Link #46
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Watched the first episode and aside from the CGI sequence, it's sure going to be a great revival in upcoming episodes!

Still, I wonder what's next after Crystal since this anime series will only focus on the first story arc?
That's not established at all?
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Old 2014-07-05, 10:28   Link #47
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Yea, one of the surprising things I found out about the Sailor Moon source material is that despite the original anime being like 200+ episodes or something, which lead me to think it was a manga series on the scale of Dragonball and DragonballZ in chapters.

The actual manga is only 50 or chapters in total.
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Old 2014-07-05, 10:29   Link #48
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Seeing Sailor V in motion was good. Aside from that is basically was like a modernized version of the original.

Usagi's voice sounds basically the same to me. Waiting for Ami.
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Old 2014-07-05, 10:39   Link #49
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I'm a bit disappointed.....
Beyond the nostalgia kick, the first episode was nothing special.

Actually, it felt incredibly dated......

The opening was passable at best, and I actually preferred the ending theme....

All in all, I was disappointed though. This episode was nothing special, and it feels like I just took a massive kick to the groin of my childhood. Ah well. I'll keep watching in the hope things get better
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Old 2014-07-05, 10:45   Link #50
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The eyecatches were the best thing about the episode, but...

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The nod to Naoko Takeuchi's other gem, Shoujo Kakumei Utena was nice, with the silhouettes.
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Old 2014-07-05, 11:13   Link #51
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So I guess the rumor that they were going to update the setting was wrong since the Sailor V video game looked like an 8-bit platformer.

And speaking of Sailor V, you'd think that after twenty years Kotono would've learned how to pronounce "v", but no, she's still mangling it.
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Old 2014-07-05, 11:17   Link #52
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So I guess the rumor that they were going to update the setting was wrong since the Sailor V video game looked like an 8-bit platformer.

And speaking of Sailor V, you'd think that after twenty years Kotono would've learned how to pronounce "v", but no, she's still mangling it.
Is not like any norman person in Japan can pronounce it Seera Binasu, any one?
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Old 2014-07-05, 11:19   Link #53
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Seeing Sailor V in motion was good. Aside from that is basically was like a modernized version of the original.

Usagi's voice sounds basically the same to me. Waiting for Ami.
It's because it's the same seiyu.

As for the episode I'm creaming with nostalgia.
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Old 2014-07-05, 11:22   Link #54
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People were complaining that she sounded worse due to her getting older, and I found no change in her performance. She's the same Usagi that she was 20 years ago.
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Old 2014-07-05, 11:35   Link #55
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Was it mind blowing? No, not really. That said, it's still good enough for me, though waiting 2 weeks for the next episode is going to be the real challenge in terms of keeping my interest in this series.
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Old 2014-07-05, 11:47   Link #56
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An interesting question. Do they still have arcades like that in Toyko?
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Old 2014-07-05, 11:56   Link #57
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People were complaining that she sounded worse due to her getting older, and I found no change in her performance. She's the same Usagi that she was 20 years ago.
I disagree. She sounds like she's still voicing Hummy in Suite Precure, not Usagi.


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An interesting question. Do they still have arcades like that in Toyko?
The big ones are still there (SEGA and Taito), AFAIK, at least when I was there two years ago.
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Old 2014-07-05, 12:07   Link #58
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Is it just me or does the preview look a bit better than this episode? It seems a bit more crisp and is that a funny face I spot Usagi pulling? Or is it Ami making everything a bit better with her mere presence?
Full of derpy frames still, but that's expected.

I understand and agree with a lot of the criticism, especially that it lacks the personality of the source and the material having some aspects that will inevitably look dated if they're not changed.
But what makes you feel it was outright bad? It had some good points, I thought. Enough to make me think it has some potential
The preview with aim does look better but I'll keep my expectations low, and I'm not sure about outright bad but there are defiantly places which can be improved like the sitting together at school and the janky hands.

But like you said there is defiantly potential of this to get better but that really depends on how much effort the animator a put in for the next episode if it was the same quality as this episode my hopes for it being better are not high.

That said I am still looking forwards to the next episode.
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Old 2014-07-05, 12:32   Link #59
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An interesting question. Do they still have arcades like that in Toyko?
Yea, arcades are still a big think in Japan.
Even outside of Ahikabara. Every decent sized shopping center has an arcade on one of its floors.
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Old 2014-07-05, 12:38   Link #60
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The preview with aim does look better but I'll keep my expectations low, and I'm not sure about outright bad but there are defiantly places which can be improved like the sitting together at school and the janky hands.

But like you said there is defiantly potential of this to get better but that really depends on how much effort the animator a put in for the next episode if it was the same quality as this episode my hopes for it being better are not high.

That said I am still looking forwards to the next episode.
Speaking of, there is this screenshot
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which cracks me up more than in should. You feeling okay there, Rei?
Can't wait for Meguca: Sailor Moon edition
It seems that this show suffers a lot if watched in low-res, but at the same time high-res can accentuate it's flaws.
But honestly, while imperfect and downright ugly in some parts, the animation quality is something I personally can live with for now. I wish they would improve it, maybe replace that ugly transformation with something beautiful for the BD, but if not, alright- as long as it doesn't get worse. It's not as bad as some make it out to be...
I'm just really hoping that the other VA's will perform better than those in ep 1. That's all I ask.
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