Fairy Tail Anime Episode Discussion Thread [Episode 165 and Onward]

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

To be frank i think even in the manga it was a sloppy arc. You knew they were overmatched the second it started but you also knew eventually they were going to win and the question was how long until they came up with a way to beat them that sorta makes sense. What this arc did is ruin the mystique of the Dragon Slayers and frankly it was an unpleasant read the entire time.

[Blueknight78]

well mashima admited himself who this arc goes a little out of control in the manga and he really "rushed somethings"(the end) since fans started to get frustrated with this arc(get a popularity decrease or increased amount of complain over this arc(bad battles too much characters, too much "offscreen"), that arc was a proof of when you let your mind goes too wild as he did things can go wrong, that was why he told who he learned a lot from this arc about "what not to do.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

thats not my point there's a few massive logical flaws that made this entire arc make no sense.
So future Rogue told the princess that 10,000 dragons are going to swoop down and attack and because of how long its been in place i assume she's known for a decent year or 2 there are a few major problems
1. That makes absolutely zero sense in the first place since all indications are dragons have been extinct for (lets say it she learned 2 years ago) 12 years.
2. She never bothered to ask why they would attack this specific place... that makes zero sense that would've been a red flag
3. Considering how she must realize dragons are incredibly powerful creatures why does she think that the magic they've gathered would even come remotely close to taking out 10,000 dragons
Another massive problem is how none of the dragon slayers thought hm maybe find a mage who uses their element and could i dont know heal them so they're at full power before they fight.
Finally, while i like the guy a whole lot and i get how mavis would know what to do but how in the world are you gonna convince me natsu thought of both a way to counterattack so perfectly and even moreso to eat atlas flame the natsu we know and love isnt nearly that smart.
So many logical flaws with this arc i dont know where to even start.

[Seafoam]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

thats not my point there's a few massive logical flaws that made this entire arc make no sense.
So future Rogue told the princess that 10,000 dragons are going to swoop down and attack and because of how long its been in place i assume she's known for a decent year or 2 there are a few major problems
1. That makes absolutely zero sense in the first place since all indications are dragons have been extinct for (lets say it she learned 2 years ago) 12 years.
2. She never bothered to ask why they would attack this specific place... that makes zero sense that would've been a red flag
3. Considering how she must realize dragons are incredibly powerful creatures why does she think that the magic they've gathered would even come remotely close to taking out 10,000 dragons
Another massive problem is how none of the dragon slayers thought hm maybe find a mage who uses their element and could i dont know heal them so they're at full power before they fight.
Finally, while i like the guy a whole lot and i get how mavis would know what to do but how in the world are you gonna convince me natsu thought of both a way to counterattack so perfectly and even moreso to eat atlas flame the natsu we know and love isnt nearly that smart.
So many logical flaws with this arc i dont know where to even start.
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Yeah a lot of things made no sense in this arc to the point where it seems like Mashima just wanted to rush it from the beginning, at least the arc is almost over in the anime.

[Krono]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

thats not my point there's a few massive logical flaws that made this entire arc make no sense.
So future Rogue told the princess that 10,000 dragons are going to swoop down and attack and because of how long its been in place i assume she's known for a decent year or 2 there are a few major problems
1. That makes absolutely zero sense in the first place since all indications are dragons have been extinct for (lets say it she learned 2 years ago) 12 years.
2. She never bothered to ask why they would attack this specific place... that makes zero sense that would've been a red flag
3. Considering how she must realize dragons are incredibly powerful creatures why does she think that the magic they've gathered would even come remotely close to taking out 10,000 dragons
Another massive problem is how none of the dragon slayers thought hm maybe find a mage who uses their element and could i dont know heal them so they're at full power before they fight.
Finally, while i like the guy a whole lot and i get how mavis would know what to do but how in the world are you gonna convince me natsu thought of both a way to counterattack so perfectly and even moreso to eat atlas flame the natsu we know and love isnt nearly that smart.
So many logical flaws with this arc i dont know where to even start.

Future Rogue showed up only days ago. That's why Hisui doesn't fully trust his word, and Arcadios hasn't been updated on the change in plans.

They were already building the Eclipse gate for the plan to kill Zeref. Then future Rogue shows up claiming to be from the future, with a tale of 10,000 dragons about to attack the kingdom, and a different way of using the Eclipse Gate. So they didn't have time to plan extensively for it. And once future Rogue's prediction for the outcome of the game came true, they could not afford to doubt his claims anymore.

None of the Dragon Slayers found someone that could user their element because they didn't have time to plan things out. They had to go face down a dragon ASAP or the dragons would start killing people, and the other wizards had to start fighting mini-dragons asap for the same reason.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by Krono

Future Rogue showed up only days ago. That's why Hisui doesn't fully trust his word, and Arcadios hasn't been updated on the change in plans.

They were already building the Eclipse gate for the plan to kill Zeref. Then future Rogue shows up claiming to be from the future, with a tale of 10,000 dragons about to attack the kingdom, and a different way of using the Eclipse Gate. So they didn't have time to plan extensively for it. And once future Rogue's prediction for the outcome of the game came true, they could not afford to doubt his claims anymore.

None of the Dragon Slayers found someone that could user their element because they didn't have time to plan things out. They had to go face down a dragon ASAP or the dragons would start killing people, and the other wizards had to start fighting mini-dragons asap for the same reason.

You may be right but unless he showed up right before the GMG started that makes no sense especially considering that the main thing that was in his favor was the ridiculous prediction. Future lucy may have been around barely.

But its still hard to believe Hisui never told a single person about the change in plan

Plus they arent clear on exactly when future rogue showed up (one of the massive flaws of the arc)

[dniv]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

You may be right but unless he showed up right before the GMG started that makes no sense especially considering that the main thing that was in his favor was the ridiculous prediction. Future lucy may have been around barely.

But its still hard to believe Hisui never told a single person about the change in plan

Plus they arent clear on exactly when future rogue showed up (one of the massive flaws of the arc)

Hindsight is 20/20. I mean... if someone claiming they are from the future shows up and predicts the future in a special way. If you don't think that they are evil, then your first inclination would be to take their word for what is going to happen.

The dragons could have appeared to be extinct, but perhaps not. There was a dragon graveyard underneath the city and perhaps some of the dragons could have even been resurrected somehow, who knows. That's the thing about fate... it is self-fulfilling no matter what. They would attack this specific place because perhaps it is just random fate and there's no special reason... or subconsciously because she believes that they are attacking the palace? They also overestimate their power to defeat the dragons... because they're stupid. They thought that GMG provides lots of magic, when it really doesn't. I feel like that's reasonable... they felt this way because it would probably seem absurd if that amount of power wasn't enough, because they would otherwise be doomed...

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

yea i guess still the arc had so many flaws the whole story just plain stinks fact is as good as most of the battles were in GMG starting from the moment that final day started it was a letdown looking back so much potential the only time i can think of a fighting tournament that had as much potential and was let down so beautifully was the World tournament before the Majin Buu arc in DBZ. Others have had good tournaments but they've yet to disappoint.

[Houreki]

I already read this in the manga, but the feels remain ;-;

[Gintokifan22]

I forgot, I remembered how this arc ends. Yet I've been enjoying seeing this arc Animated, not looking forward to the ending due to. Well, don't want to spoil it for the Anime only watchers. I've been enjoying the arc Animated though so, I'll keep watching a while longerXD

If only Hiro ended the arc differently

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by Gintokifan22

I forgot, I remembered how this arc ends. Yet I've been enjoying seeing this arc Animated, not looking forward to the ending due to. Well, don't want to spoil it for the Anime only watchers. I've been enjoying the arc Animated though so, I'll keep watching a while longerXD

If only Hiro ended the arc differently

If only Hiro executed the arc differently. I'm not looking forward to the end either, but not for the same reasons you seem to be implying. Those concept sketches he released in one of his manga volumes looked intriguing.

Spoiler for What could have been:

I remember a rough sketch of Lucy reluctantly kneeling before Zeref and being told she can never see Natsu again. I suppose Zeref would've been more heavily involved. I'd also wager that Arcadios really was planned as a straight-up villain. Funny how often he changes things during story planning. Well, it seems he's learned his lesson to not overplan, because the next few arcs seem much better thought out.

[MechR]

I still want an explanation for Makarov not pulling out Fairy Law when everyone's getting Zerg-rushed.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by MechR

I still want an explanation for Makarov not pulling out Fairy Law when everyone's getting Zerg-rushed.

two majors reasons
1. Because it would take too long and by the time he powered up the dragons would likely be able to attack him and kill him
2. Because that attacks everyone who the caster considers an enemy and deep down i think he felt others besides the dragons were his enemies and he doesnt want to harm them as well.

[B214]

Well there's also the issue where normal magic doesn't work on Dragons, so maybe Makarov felt that it would be pointless to use Fairy Law.

[immblueversion]

Originally Posted by B214

Well there's also the issue where normal magic doesn't work on Dragons, so maybe Makarov felt that it would be pointless to use Fairy Law.

A spell that purges anyone the user deems to be a foe?

[B214]

Originally Posted by immblueversion

A spell that purges anyone the user deems to be a foe?

Well all the mages attack the Dragons yet their magic are ineffective against Dragons, there's no guarantee that Fairy Law would even work, so why waste energy to try that.

[ginger02]

Is there an episode this week? I didn't see a title out.

[B214]

The episodes are released on Saturday.

[Mikethemaster]

Originally Posted by ginger02

Is there an episode this week? I didn't see a title out.

Here on the intrnet around 10:30 or 11:00 pm on fridays. in japan it saturday mornings.

[B214]

As much as i want to compliment the anime on trying to do a good job on trying to expand how important that one minute was, it was logicless.

Well so last week Erza was jumping around beating the Mini-Dragons and now she needs Jellal to support her while Droy was half-dead being unable to walk yet he can jump and dodge this episode. -___- I can understand the Erza part because of her injuries but Droy? Come on that hardly make sense.

Then the one minute reverse used on the Dragons, Laxus and Wendy's aside since their combined attack showed some affect on Zirconis, but Gajeel, Sting, Rogue and Cobra's attack didn't even make the Dragon they faced flinch before the 1 minute reverse yet after the 1 minute reverse, their attack becomes effective.