2008-07-06, 23:20 | Link #361 | |
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2008-07-06, 23:31 | Link #364 |
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I don't hate Ranka. I actually dislike Nanase 100% more than Ranka.
As for why I'm not fond of her? Well, first impressions count. And as far as I saw Ranka was all moe/loli/damsel in distress from episode 1. That is a HUGE turn off for me. I hate moe/loli enough but to add the damsel in distress thing....that can really kill a character for me. I was afraid that would set the tone for things to come. But since this is Macross I tried to not hate her and keep an open mind. She can grow and mature afterall (too bad they can't age her up a bit). It's hard cause she does her moe thing and it drives me up the wall. But even so, I don't hate her. Hey, she showed some spine in episode 12 so I have to give her credit for that. I do think that shows her potential and that we will be seeing more of those moments in the future (at least I hope so). I suppose it's just personal preference. Some people saw episode one and saw Sheryl as a bitch and that was that. She has a very strong personality and I can see why people wouldn't like her. But I enjoy her personality. She's got flare and I don't mind the arrogance one bit. Who knows, I might end up really liking Ranka in the end. In Junni Kokki I absolutely DESPISED Yoko those first couple of episodes. I mean, I truly and deeply hated her with a passion. By the end of the series I adored her and she is one of my favorite anime characters ever. It's all about how the character develops and grows. That's good story writing.
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2008-07-06, 23:39 | Link #365 | |
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Some of you really don't know how rare it is to see me in a non Bleach forum You know what usually I hate emo characters too....But I don't see that in Ranka. The opposite... *Sleep deprived* . Ok...I can barely see. I have to go ... |
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2008-07-06, 23:39 | Link #366 |
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I love Ranka. If you compare her to Sheryl, it's unfortunate that she's not able to break out of her stereotype as wonderfully as Sheryl did on her tsundere type, since the series is annoyingly insistent on forcing the moe label on Ranka, but that doesn't mean Ranka isn't a bad character. She's come such a long way from her period of uncertainty and doubt, and though she's no Sheryl, that doesn't mean Ranka can't handle things in her own way. The girl has a big heart, and as long as she doesn't lose it in the course of the long run, then Ranka should be just fine.
It's Alto X Ranka I have a bone to pick with. For their love story, I think the lead up sorely needs improvement. For Ranka's character development, the latest episode showed me that the man stunts her growth. I know he means well, I know he's just trying to protect her and shielding her from harm, I know that he's been protecting her throughout the series, but telling her to forget and run away from her memories is a reflection of him running away from his own problems. Face it, damn it. All of us know that Alto will be proven wrong eventually, Ranka will have enough backbone to face her past. Ranka basing her love on the fact that Alto's protecting her all the time is enough to tell me everything. I'll continue this post when the next episode comes out, since I'll be able to see whether the series will confirm what I suspect the theme of Alto x Ranka is built on. |
2008-07-06, 23:40 | Link #367 | |
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Because I don't hate Ranka. I think she is actually very cute. I just don't think she can make a good pair with Alto. And of course the honest truth is that we simply love Sheryl more. - Tak |
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2008-07-06, 23:43 | Link #368 | ||
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But i don't like extremely emo characters such as Zero from Vampire Knight
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2008-07-06, 23:45 | Link #369 |
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I don't hate Ranka, to the worst I just don't like her, I'm tired of her damsel in distress like many others.
I liked Ranka as a cuttie in first a few of episodes, even though Sheryl has always been my fav. (I have a tendency to like women take things seriously, for example my top 5 girls in this year's saimoe: Sheryl, Fate, Addilisia, Kagami and Asuka). But Ranka dispointed me a little by little and I got another loli I thought cuter than Ranka (Klan-chan, anyone?). I don't really care her anymore other than her relations with Alto and Sheryl, but I don't really hate her because of her tragical past and she yet has done anything outrageous. But I don't like her either.
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2008-07-06, 23:46 | Link #370 | |
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Im sorry for assuming u guys hated Ranka
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2008-07-06, 23:47 | Link #371 | |
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That was good and bad advice. Because even though she does have to face it ...to be bound by it wouldn't be good either.... Alto's problems is why he'd be good for Ranka and not Sheryl ... We will save it for when I had coffee and sleep. Because You know...that when I get serous...I get serious. So I can leave it at that with you... Ok now it's goodnight *That's how you can tell when I am getting swept in shipwave...I keep saying goodnight but haven't left yet...yet I don't feel like doing a "Vintage OD" post...at the moment.* |
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2008-07-06, 23:50 | Link #372 | |
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But anyway, among moe characters I suppose Ranka is a more likeable moe. But I really wish she was less moe and loli. Just a bit. Especially next to Alto. Cause it looks like lolicon (even if it isn't). And the writers need to stop putting her in these damsel situations.....Damsel in distress sydrome really irks me. Though on the bright side I do believe that in the end it will probably be her song saving the galaxy. So she will probably be the one doing the saving. I just wish the writers would move things along already.
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2008-07-07, 03:30 | Link #373 | |
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Regarding Youko: Yep, I think just about everyone despised Youko for the first few episodes. I was hoping that Ranka would be modeled after Youko and grow strong quickly, but I feel somewhat disappointed up until this point. She has shown signs every few episodes, but seems to revert back just as often. Maybe she will achieve her awesomeness in the next few episodes though. Even now I can't really watch the first few episodes of 12 Kingdoms without wincing despite knowing that Youko becomes one of my favorite characters ever. Well of course Rakushun edges her by a hair as my favorite 12 Kingdoms character though. |
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2008-07-07, 03:45 | Link #374 | |
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You see, Sheryl is quite a strong character, one of those you either hate or love. She knows what she wants, loves to excel, is very professional, but can act too controlling for some people's tastes. Ranka on the other hand, is a more subtle character that is hard to hate, but might evoke a feeling of indifference among the viewers due to her "safe" character. As the Sheryl-bashing subsided with episode 5, people started comparing the two, and when the fans of one side make a snide (or a semi-snide) comment about the other character, her faction starts to throw snide comments until it goes up in a flame war. For this I suppose we have to congratulate the Macross F team, they really know how to rock the boat :P |
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2008-07-07, 04:08 | Link #375 | |
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She's my least favorite character in this series thanks to that episode. Bumped down from 3rd or 4th. Even behind Grace now.
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2008-07-07, 08:05 | Link #376 | |
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Sheryl is well she's freaking scary looking for one thing. He hair eye color...but she is annoying and runs roughshod over Alto. He lets her but when he's with her it's like the same as everyone. She teases and unmans him, he blushes and yells. But with Ranka he's different. The jealousy...Remember when he saw her singing when he was with Sheryl? He didn't like the attention Michel was giving her and was very Negative. With the Zentradi start looking at Ranka and getting nosebleeds. He briefly gets a irritated look then that's what prompts him to fly over to her. He doesn't do that with Sheryl at all. Her Chemistry is better with Michel...who I think is really the hot guy! I really want to go on...but I am tired and I still am trying to get some MOE to care to back up all that shit I talked. Which I can...but I am still struggling with this "Non Bleach thing" I have tunnel vision. "All I see is Ichigo" <--but I am not an emo stalker and I know..I don't have a chance...He'd 2-D I am 3 it would never work out... I had to put avatar back on..because I couldn't recognize my own post...with non bleach characters..omg!...sorry. I am a serious Bleach Otaku dork but it doesn't seem like there are Ranka haters...it seems like you hate the Ranka lovers and Sheryl-haters and that's the part that irks me. I dislike the character I am not calling you names because you like one I don't. It's the opposite. I crush your dreams in thread...then we are cool out of it. I take my hate out on a character not the fans. And not everyone agrees...so I don't red rep. That reminds me I owe Westly a cookie for making me have a a little bit a moe to bother posting... At this point I don't want to wear Sheryl in sig dying...so it's not that bad. baby's wake so I have to go. Last edited by BleachOD; 2008-07-07 at 08:08. Reason: ignore typo's had five hours of sleep in the past three days |
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2008-07-07, 09:06 | Link #377 | ||
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I don't dislike Ranka... it's just that Sheryl is so much better as a a character imo. I find Ranka has the potential to be one of the better characters from her archetype, but I think Sheryl atm is one of the better characters from her archetype (and I prefer Sheryl's archetype to Ranka's by a massive margin) and will remain that way unless they do a 180 on character writing. I have to admit that her total lack of disregard for Sheryl in episode 12 annoyed me and she lost a lot of points with me, she dropped from my third fav character in the series to around 5-7. 13 did nothing to change my opinion on her and I doubt 14 will as well, 15-17 will be some key episodes I guess in how I think about Ranka.
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Like I said before, I simply do not see jealousy in those scenes. At all. I've watched them again and again and I just don't see it. edit: On a different note, I watch Bleach but am not a huge fan of it. I sort of casually watch it (and I don't watch the filler episodes at all). I don't go to the Bleach forums at all. I dislike Orihime immensely though and if there is any character in this series that gives me Orihime vibes it's Ranka.
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but what I posted on Eury's page will do (I hate her too So much that if I wear her she is with anyone but Ichigo. If she's with Ichigo she's dying (I have one of him that from Kubo with Ichigo doing the stabbing or stalkng-<again drawn by kubo<--I want to wear it now) Quote:
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