2018-04-28, 16:47 | Link #341 |
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I am almost certain it is due to the recent visit he made to China and met Xi Jinping. It was such a big deal that China only announced the meeting after he had already gone home. He wouldn't have made the trip without it being monumental to his government.
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2018-05-01, 01:36 | Link #343 |
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I'm not sure that's a factor. Park sure looked like Margaret Thatcher at times in her approach with North Korea, but it was not as if the Kims ever seriously tried negotiating with anyone until now. As far as everyone is concerned, the Norks fired artillery strikes on South Korean soil and are suspected of sinking the Cheonan. No wonder why the South Korean government hardened its stance for nearly 7 years after those incidents, and Park only became president in 2013.
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2018-05-01, 10:23 | Link #344 |
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To be honest, I'm actually rather skeptical of this news, I mean, Peace is always good and the people is having enough of what is going on - but's let's face it; North Korea have a history of breaking treaty. North Korea pledged denuclearization in 1992, 1994, 2005 and 2012. And agreements of peace and aids in exchange of demilitarized was always on the table before; and they did break it after that
As much as i'd like to enjoy the news. The guy in charge and the north korea history is making me rather questioning toward this talk |
2018-05-05, 13:42 | Link #346 |
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Even if it happens, it won't last. Just like how NK repeatedly breaks their deals or US breaks the deal just like Iran deal because they didn't live up to the the "spirit". Either ways, unified Korea is going to have some tough times soon because SK has to feed both mouths. They already have a huge unemployment issue as is and these are the two highest suicide rate countries in Asia combining.
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2018-05-05, 17:55 | Link #347 |
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Let's not forget the other idiot in this equation, Donald Trump only wants to make a deal that lasts a few months, so he can say "Mission Acomplished" before the elections. The day after the elections he could not care less if China helps NK invade the south, just like with Russia's invasion of Crimea, he will be on the side of the aggressors.
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2018-05-08, 19:08 | Link #349 | |
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I'm always skeptical whenever a Dictator does anything positive, and this is no different. Nothing else in the last 60+ years that has been done, has been working however. So we will just have to see how this plays out. There isnt anything any of us here can do but observe.
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2018-05-08, 21:59 | Link #350 |
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If we know anything about Trump it is that he, despite his own claims, is terrible at making deals. So you will have to excuse us who are actually familiar with the Korean history when we are skeptical that Trump is interested in a lasting solution, especially when he just ended the Iran deal.
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2018-05-09, 00:19 | Link #352 |
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^i'm not sure where you got your information, but all the info I've seen seems to show that the majority of americans, and both democrats and republicans supported the deal. furthermore, trump fired the advisers(tillerson) who told him not to exit the iran deal replacing them with war hawks like john bolton
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2018-05-09, 02:40 | Link #353 | |
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/08/polit...ent/index.html It same for Paris Agreement and other stuff. Trump doesn't give a damn about most Americans, its all about getting back Obama. Only his brainless cult loves this. |
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2018-05-09, 03:26 | Link #354 | |
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https://www.investors.com/politics/c...-nuclear-deal/ http://www.people-press.org/2015/09/...reement-falls/ http://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2015...ess-votes-deal The Senate voted 58 - 42 against the Iran deal in 2015. An almost super majority. The Iranian Government is not to be trusted. They have been funding terror around the world for years. They don't care about peace. Only control. Also if by brainless cult, you mean over 40% of the active voters in America... I'll side with them anyday over the other side. Turn your nose up at Middle America just as the Media did, and you'll be seeing President Trump have a second term.
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2018-05-09, 03:54 | Link #355 |
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By '' brainless cult'' he probably mean the +/- 18% of the electorate than support Trump no mater what he say or do. As for Trump's second term, to me, the biggest factor will be if the Dem run a competent campaing or do one as bad as last one.
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That being said, stay on topic or please go away. This is about the Korean peninsula, and a number of people have reasons to believe something doesn't sit right. |
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2018-05-12, 11:16 | Link #357 | |
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/11/w...sanctions.html
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2018-05-12, 12:42 | Link #358 | |
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2018-05-12, 14:20 | Link #359 |
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It's hardly certain that "something good" is happening with respect to Korea, and even less certain with respect to security in East Asia as a whole. A hyped-up "summit" between Kim and Trump will likely go nowhere if the Trump Administration continues to insist that the DPRK must disarm before progress can be made. Would the US be willing to withdraw its forces from South Korea in response to Kim removing his nuclear weapons and ICBMs? What would that mean for South Korea? For Japan? For Taiwan?
I'm hardly opposed to negotiations and certainly not to peace, but it's important to remain clear-eyed in these situations. Trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize as yet another way to show up his predecessor. I don't think the welfare of the people of East Asia factor into his calculations at all. Trump is neither sincere nor trustworthy. Certainly the DPRK under the KIms has not been trustworthy either. We'll see whether Kim Jong-un is sincere.
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