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P.S. And has to be the real Nami, Not the Sanji Nami, so that we are clear .
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2012-07-04, 08:26 | Link #22 |
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i was about to mention that, you beat me to it! that hat actually convinced me that oda didn't plan for trafalgar law to be "tiger-guy", if he had that in mind from the start then he would have drawn law's hat with stripes and not spots. but it's nice to finally understand why luffy keeps calling him trafal-guy. i thought it was just some silly nick-name he came up with since he obviously thinks he and law are now buddies.
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2012-07-04, 09:55 | Link #24 | |
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He might actually be well-informed about the whole Raftel-one piece thing imo. He like has a station or underlings everywhere we go and he seems to be quiet adept at infiltrating the marines and Intel gathering. G-5 was supposed to be a big branch of one piece government and the head of that place is his subordinate.
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2012-07-04, 11:11 | Link #25 |
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Joker turning out to be Doflamingo is not a surprise, however Vergo being his most trusted subordinate and the "mole" of the G5 marines is quite the revelation.
Of course, seeing as how Law also used to serve under Doflamingo, that would logically mean that he knows a lot about his "ability". That's going to be pivotal information on how to stop/defeat Doflamingo. All the more reason for Luffy to have Law as an ally.
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2012-07-04, 11:53 | Link #26 | |||
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By that logic, anyone with a "D" in their name could be part of the D clan. I mean, sure on one hand you could consider Whitebeard being one, but on the other side of the spectrum you'd also have to consider guys like Spandam as well. Quote:
Both Law and Dofla may be warlords, but fact of the matter is that the latter has more seniority, power AND influence than the former. In a way, it's kind of like how Vergo was just revealed to be Smoker's "superior" even though the both of them are the same rank. That being said, I would also agree that Dofla may be part of the reason why Law wants to gather strong allies (though I doubt that he'd be able to convince any emperors to join his side)..... Actually, speaking of Dofla and his men, I wonder if Yarisugi (the commodore introduced this chapter) is one of his moles, as well? I know that the G5 marines in general are made up of just plain nasty bastards, but considering that the branch's commanding officer answers to a warlord, maybe said officer has his own subordinates who work directly under him, as well (as fellow moles, in other words)..... And I just want to say again that I'm really impressed with the slime having its own DF power. In a way, it could even be seen as a loophole of sorts to the whole "one person can't eat more than one DF" rule. Rather than the user themselves eating a second fruit, just have a byproduct of the user's original power eat the other fruit instead! In fact, I'm really hoping that Oda takes this idea further and reveals that the slimander even has its own Awakened form! Quote:
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2012-07-04, 12:13 | Link #27 | |
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While I don't think so either, you don't necessarily and to include Spandam, that is, of course, unless you think Spandam's real name is Span D. Am. (though surprising got a catchy tone to it) Doflamingo does have a first name, so it could simply be Donquixote D. Oflamingo.. (also got a nice ring to it as well)
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and hell yea! doflamingo being joker is the best possible scenario. i'm glad joker wasn't a new character and this just adds to doflamingo's awesomeness. i forgive him for not killing moriah even though that really should have happened... |
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2012-07-04, 15:19 | Link #32 |
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This doesn't really contribute to this conversation, nor does it touch upon the many reasons this chapter was fantastic, but I feel it needs to be said....
Robin's parted hair look is extremely awesome/sexy. I love it.
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2012-07-04, 17:31 | Link #34 |
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If you read this chapter it would be very obvious.
Other than that, I think Vergo is going to be a very formidable opponent if his haki was strong enough to knock out both Law and Luffy (the way Luffy passed out suggested it). |
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2012-07-04, 18:32 | Link #36 |
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The translation I read was a bit confusing towards to end. Did I understand correctly, that Vergo was a subordinate of Smoker once and climbed the ranks quickly all while being a secret minion of Doflamingo? If that is correct, are we to assume, that the Harpy Lady is also on board Joker's team?
Wow, things are turning in a surprsing way lately. Ceasar may actually end up being just a mini boss, while Doflamingo is the big bad of the arc. On the other hand, we may not even see the encounter with the shichibukai on this island. Regardless, we are going to see some crazy fights in the not too distant future. I wonder who will take on Vergo, though. It pretty much has to be Smoker. But if that's the case ... Smoker for Strawhats? Just kidding. Though, it may be a possibility. By the way, were those french fries Vergo had on his cheeks during the flashback?
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2012-07-04, 19:21 | Link #37 | |
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Now he's the commander of G-5 (aka Smoker's division). So he is Smoker's superior.
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2012-07-04, 21:32 | Link #38 |
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I definitely did but I must have missed that part
Also is it possible that Doflamingo is the yonkou that Law wants Luffy to help takedown, not saying that there is a fifth secret one but perhaps Kaidou or Shanks retired in the meantime?
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2012-07-04, 23:11 | Link #40 | |
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1) Moria asked Dofla if it was Sengoku that gave him the order to have him killed, to which Dofla replied that it was someone even higher up. Vergo was/is a VA, whereas Sengoku was the FA; therefore, Vergo can't be that guy because Sengoku was his superior in rank/authority. 2) That wasn't even a marine Dofla was talking to; it was a WG official. 3) Why would Dofla take an order from his subordinate (Vergo)? 4) Why would Vergo want Moria dead? What would he gain from that? 5) Judging by their relationship, Dofla and Vergo would have a high respect for each other. The way that particular conversation went down about Moria's assassination didn't exactly exemplify that. Dofla even went so far as to threaten that guy about quitting the shichibukai. That doesn't sound like something he'd say to his most trusted subordinate Vergo.
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