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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 177 | |||
091 - 100: Amazing... | 1 | 3.85% | |
081 - 090: Great... | 3 | 11.54% | |
071 - 080: Very Good... | 6 | 23.08% | |
061 - 070: Good... | 5 | 19.23% | |
051 - 060: Average... | 5 | 19.23% | |
041 - 050: Below Average... | 1 | 3.85% | |
031 - 040: Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
021 - 030: Very Bad... | 1 | 3.85% | |
011 - 020: Awful... | 0 | 0% | |
000 - 010: Click here if this is an Iruka episode (j/k; only click if you hate this episode)... | 4 | 15.38% | |
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2010-09-10, 16:04 | Link #21 | |
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That being said, the bias against filler in general is just stupid. The studio may suck at coming up with their own arcs, but they do a pretty good job with stuff releated to canon. This Iruka mini arc may not be the most interesting thing ever, but it's far from being anything bad. If you enjoy the series, there is no reason to avoid it just because it's filler. People hated him just because he had a demon sealed within himself. Which may sound stupid, but if you think about how prejudiced and xenophobic people are it is totally plausible. |
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2010-09-10, 16:36 | Link #23 |
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The episode was pretty decent, I don't mind these kind of flashbacks when it builds on a relationship and doesn't effect the story.
The general public in Konoha can be easily regarded as the general public in real life...closed minded fools. They hold almost a extreme prejudice for a kid who did nothing wrong. |
2010-09-10, 18:07 | Link #24 | ||
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2010-09-11, 04:48 | Link #25 | |
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I couldn't believe they screwed up so much, when it was clear that Kishimoto gave them such a good chance to make their own bit of story. Of course in the majority of cases they did a decent job. I think the best was the filler about Jiraiya's life. |
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2010-09-11, 10:27 | Link #27 |
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I'll never understand why the adults kept the Kyuubi attack secret to their kids. That is not exactly something you can keep secret for long and pretend it never happened. I can slightly understand not saying who were Naruto's parents, but this seems silly when they see everyone treating Naruto like crap and want to know why.
And the anime is better when they just "fill" in Kishi's storyline and keep mostly to canon like they are doing here. It's their filler arcs that give filler a bad reputation. Because they can't resist creating their horrible filer characters, villains, and cliched plots. This mini-arc has been good because it sticks to the canon characters outside of those three mooks. Although we will likely see three filler villains soon, they won't be around for long. |
2010-09-11, 15:15 | Link #30 | |
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A gap of 60 chapters means the anime would catch up in less than a year without fillers. And then it would be filler hell all over again. |
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2010-09-11, 19:17 | Link #31 |
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I think that these episodes are great as they show in detail how difficult Naruto's life was before he graduated from the academy... sure it was shown in Part 1 several times in flashback, but these episode show it with more details and give it more impact...
At first, when these fillers came up right after Naruto's "15 minutes of fame", I thought: "oh, he accomplished so much and was so awesome during this arc from A to Z" and they have to show him as stupid and unskilled again... but actually, I find that it emphasises how much he had to overcome and as a result, makes him shine even more... To come back to this episode, what's weird is why Kakashi never tried to get involved in Naruto's life earlier... Everybody here knows that Kakashi was Yondaime's best student and it seems unlikely Kakashi did not know about Naruto being his son from the start. As a disciple, it would have made sense for Kakashi to look out after his master's legacy... It seems to be the most basic form of respect to me in a master/disciple relationship... maybe the 3rd Hokage orders prevented him to do that... until Team 7 would eventually be formed... |
2010-09-12, 23:49 | Link #33 | |
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but yeah they will probably need a filler arc after this season just to be safe |
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2010-09-13, 01:58 | Link #34 | |
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Besides, Kakashi never was shown very preoccupied by what others thought of him... In the end, Iruka takes Naruto under his wing, so why Kakashi could not have done the same, had he really wanted to? Besides, even when Kakashi could "officially" take care of Naruto once Team 7 was formed, he always seemed much more interested in Sasuke... I understand that there is the Sharigan-stuff tying them together, but all in all, Sasuke seemed to be a more interesting, promising, and easier-to-teach student than Naruto... If not for Jiraiya, Naruto would never have reached a decent level: Kakashi only started really recognizing Naruto after he mastered Fuuton Rasen-Shuriken... In short, I think that it was up to the disciple to look after his master's son, and Kakashi failed in that... |
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2010-09-13, 02:23 | Link #35 | ||
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2010-09-13, 04:40 | Link #36 | ||
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2010-09-13, 11:33 | Link #38 | |
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You know what's worse than fillers? A long drag-out arc like that rescue Gaara arc, seriously it's like you cannot unsee it because its canon yet so many unwanted crap going along with it. With fillers, you can just skip right ahead.
As for the Kakashi not caring bout Naruto part, I see him more like he doesn't wanna be involved in it cause it's more of a bother. Remember when Hokage assigned him as Naruto's teacher...yeah he think it's troublesome. Quote:
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2010-09-13, 11:41 | Link #39 | |
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But I digress. This was a decent episode and a little fun. Mostly it was far better than the previous episode... |
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2010-09-13, 15:49 | Link #40 | ||
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We can say that he failed, but he considerably made up for it afterwards, and better late than never... Quote:
Other villagers do have an excuse: they did not know that Naruto was Minato's son: but Kakashi most likely did and the least one of the citizens of Konoha could do for the leader who gave up his life to save the village is to look after his legacy in his stead... At least Shikamaru completely accepts the fact that he will have to look after Asuma's child, and he will most likely never have it as though as Naruto did... but then again, Shikamaru is most likely one of the characters with the strongest sense of responsability in the series... At any rate, it did not look like Kakashi had much better things to do when he was in the village, except reading the same novel for the 1000th time... I just find it funny how many characters claim to have supported Naruto all along, while they all ignored him for so long, and spit him in the face for years... Sakura being pretty high on the list... At least, Ebisu is the most honest of them all, since he admits he couldn't stand Naruto at first... |
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