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Old 2012-07-30, 00:04   Link #1641
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does anybody know where this illustration is from?
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Old 2012-07-30, 00:06   Link #1642
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^ I think that just a fan drawing.
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Old 2012-07-30, 00:15   Link #1643
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Kirito is inside a death game. He will die when his hp reach zero. That makes the reader worry about the destiny of the protagonist. I, myself experienced great thrilling reading the Cradil part. However if i already know Kirito will survive till the end such enjoyment would vanish. No matter what, even in the direst situation, i simply know that he, Asuna will still survive.
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Old 2012-07-30, 04:37   Link #1644
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Kirito is inside a death game. He will die when his hp reach zero. That makes the reader worry about the destiny of the protagonist. I, myself experienced great thrilling reading the Cradil part. However if i already know Kirito will survive till the end such enjoyment would vanish. No matter what, even in the direst situation, i simply know that he, Asuna will still survive.
Well, he is the MC and MCs usually don't die except maybe in the final volume.
By the same reasons, we all know the villain will usually lose, but it is still entertaining.

In most books the journey to the end is what fascinates readers, it wouldn't have any readers if the author summarizes only the beginning and ending

Harry Potter example:
First year, Harry defeats Voldemort.
Second Year, Harry defeats Voldemort.
Third Year, Harry meets Sirius.
Fourth Year, Voldemort revives.
etc
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Old 2012-07-30, 05:51   Link #1645
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^ I think that just a fan drawing.
Correct, it's a fan art by abec, the illustrator of the L/Ns.

Anyway, comparisons being drawn between.. Harry Potter and SAO? Wow.
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Old 2012-07-30, 18:18   Link #1646
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After reading volume 1-9 for some reason i keep thinking about how this arc would end
Spoiler for Some what a spoiler, mostly not:

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Old 2012-07-30, 22:21   Link #1647
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So I blitzed through the SAO and ALO novels last night with a degree of literary celerity rarely scene around my parts. I now have a bad feeling that I have set the bar too high for the Anime
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Old 2012-07-30, 22:51   Link #1648
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^ I can tell you the first 2 chapters of v10 were plain boring. I understand the importance of the 80% (or more) dialogue, but I wished it were done more artfully and spread out.
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Old 2012-07-30, 22:59   Link #1649
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^ I can tell you the first 2 chapters of v10 were plain boring. I understand the importance of the 80% (or more) dialogue, but I wished it were done more artfully and spread out.
But Dialogue is what makes SAO move forward. Heck most of Vol 1 was Kirito Monologues LOL.
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Old 2012-07-31, 00:07   Link #1650
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But Dialogue is what makes SAO move forward. Heck most of Vol 1 was Kirito Monologues LOL.
It's different. Tell me again after you read that 100 over pages of talking between a few people in the same room.
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Old 2012-07-31, 00:20   Link #1651
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Those were pretty important expositions that you can't really get around of, and personally I didn't find it boring :P
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Old 2012-07-31, 00:39   Link #1652
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^ I can tell you the first 2 chapters of v10 were plain boring. I understand the importance of the 80% (or more) dialogue, but I wished it were done more artfully and spread out.
Personally, I found the 1st chapter of Vol10 better than the rest of the volume Though it might just be me liking the politics and backstory.
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Old 2012-07-31, 00:44   Link #1653
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Again, this is the matter of personal taste. There are some readers like larethian who don't like long explanation and "dialogues between few people in a small room" crammed in 100 pages or so. But there are others like me who enjoyed it because yeah, for me, I found the settings very interesting and I really liked the complexity of the story. Not too complex but complex enough to say.
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Old 2012-07-31, 01:18   Link #1654
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^ As you said. But then again, I do like back-stories and I've read stuff with more complex and detailed settings (where the author also knows what he's talking about) which I find better presented to fit my taste. But what really turned me off somewhat was...... well I won't go into details since I know I will get shot down, so I'll keep my peace. That's why I never really post in SAO and AW threads. Fortunately, it didn't go on for an entire volume. I think, getting too educated and informed about AI and quantum physics is hampering my enjoyment on the setting portions of the story (for the later, it has the opposite effect for me for Mahouka, enhancing my enjoyment instead ).
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Old 2012-07-31, 01:48   Link #1655
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I think, getting too educated and informed about AI and quantum physics is hampering my enjoyment on the setting portions of the story (for the later, it has the opposite effect for me for Mahouka, enhancing my enjoyment instead ).
Heh, I know what you're talking about, but you just have to try to block it out. It's the same for me when it comes to military/action flicks, where I can go on all day about how this or that isn't really possible, or is over/under exaggerated etc. For example, most Gundam shows annoys me to no end with their sorry excuse of what is supposed to be strategy and tactics.
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Old 2012-07-31, 01:48   Link #1656
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does anybody know where this illustration is from?
Dengeki Bunko Vol. 15 it would appear:
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/34/ca6ee8b3.jpg
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Old 2012-07-31, 05:56   Link #1657
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^ As you said. But then again, I do like back-stories and I've read stuff with more complex and detailed settings (where the author also knows what he's talking about) which I find better presented to fit my taste. But what really turned me off somewhat was...... well I won't go into details since I know I will get shot down, so I'll keep my peace. That's why I never really post in SAO and AW threads. Fortunately, it didn't go on for an entire volume. I think, getting too educated and informed about AI and quantum physics is hampering my enjoyment on the setting portions of the story (for the later, it has the opposite effect for me for Mahouka, enhancing my enjoyment instead ).
It depends. I think it's not complexity that attracts me the most. It's whether the settings interest me or not. Whether the settings are more complex or more realistic is not a concern to me. I like the soul/fluctuating light setting in SAO, that's why I love (yes, love) Alicization arc so much. Adding to the fact that I have read the web version of Alicization to the end, I knew that Alicization is not all about settings.
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Old 2012-07-31, 12:56   Link #1658
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I know it's wrong to ask but..

For chapter 16.5, I never really understood what Asuna meant by saying "I've never had anything like that... happen until now..."

Anyone care to explain? I was just really confused by this phrase.
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Old 2012-07-31, 12:59   Link #1659
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I know it's wrong to ask but..

For chapter 16.5, I never really understood what Asuna meant by saying "I've never had anything like that... happen until now..."

Anyone care to explain? I was just really confused by this phrase.
She was obviously very impressed and satisfied by Kirito's "Elucidator"

on a serious note, it's supposed to be just a doujin written by some random guy, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 2012-07-31, 13:01   Link #1660
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She was obviously very impressed and satisfied by Kirito's "Elucidator"

on a serious note, it's supposed to be just a doujin written by some random guy, I wouldn't worry about it.
I thought it was the other R-18 fanfics that were written by "random" guys? s:
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