2009-03-12, 11:21 | Link #141 |
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The production committee gets only a quarter of that projected money, half if the distributor (like Pony Canyon) is sponsoring the show (= on the committee). If what they say about DVD sales is true, that they cover most production costs even with a 3000 SKU DVD sales run, then production costs need to be lower with every consecutive episode.
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2009-03-12, 11:42 | Link #142 |
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Which means that in consequence some studios have to cut corners, resulting to misshapen characters designs on the cel due to speeding up production. Or using the same stock transformation scene.
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2009-03-12, 15:20 | Link #145 | |
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Case in point, Japan really knows their customers, their clients, their partners, to sell anime to them. |
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The problem when most of your business is made from handling of copyrights and licensing and with lots of sponsors and production committees involved is that:
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2009-03-23, 01:44 | Link #147 |
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I dont think anyone else has posted this here.. sorry if its been discussed, anyways -
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/pres...nime-simulcast we were talking about this last week (?). looks like steps are being taken in a good direction.. though i doubt actual structural problems will be taken care off anytime soon edit: infact there are a lot of similiar articles. I guess the companies must spring into action now - lets hope it gives us the desired result ( which of course, depends on person to person, but no one ever said this would only have one outcome) Last edited by oompa loompa; 2009-03-23 at 01:56. |
2009-03-23, 08:07 | Link #148 |
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Does Sony/Animax have access to satellite channels with footprints across Asia? The breathless press release verbiage doesn't really tell us much about how this event is being managed. If it's just buying time on a few birds at the same time, it not quite that big a technical feat. They also didn't say anything about languages; English dubs or subs? Dubs in all major languages (seems unlikely to me)? Advertiser-supported?
Seeing as it's Sony, shouldn't we be expecting to see PS3 games for these shows, too?
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I wasn't particularly full of details, as you pointed out, so we'll just have to see how they handle it. The whole "first simulcast" thing is a lie anyway... Kurokami is simulcast and it came before them, and it was dubbed into 3 different languages, so I'm not sure what they are so proud of.
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2009-03-24, 00:19 | Link #152 | |
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Like everything else, I think we will see more Shinkais and more alternative distrubution methods EVENTUALLY. As for TV series, budgets are most likely going to be lower (although the quality of images has only gotten higher each decade). The US market? That's a toughie. It's one thing to rely on the Japanese otaku market, but that is a market you can more easily bank on than the US which most likely is MUCH SMALLER PROPORTIONALLY. Anime will need another Pokemon or DBZ sized hit here to make real gravy for the anime train internationally. However, companies aren't licencing and pushing the right stuff to hit the mainstream and even then it's considerably risky. America doesn't believe in non comedy animation for any one over the age of 19 (south park, family guy and "adult comedies" barely count). Fortunetly, the industry isn't going to disappear niehter in the US or internationally. |
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2009-03-24, 00:39 | Link #153 |
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The U.S. market is not small, but the individual buyer is small compared to otaku, this implies that you have to have some sort of mass market, mainstream appeal, which is a completely different business model from the one directed at otaku. Of course this really would all be solved if anime liscensing companies in the U.S. supported otaku communities or at least foster the otaku lifestyle instead of adamantly trying to adapt it to the american/western television standard.
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2009-03-24, 01:46 | Link #155 | |
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But shows like say Mai Hime or even Ghost in the Shell and Gundam are notoriosly risky and niche to deal with not to mention the expense of localizing them for potentially small profit. In order for the US market to get a shot in the arm, I don't see how you can get away from having a decent mainstream hit every 10 years. Problem is though, the whole "OH WOAH ANIME, NEW, EXOTIC" has worn off. It's established itself as far is it will go in the kids market. Kids will watch anything, adults need HUGE prodding to look at non simpsons type animation, if they got their hands on teh right property and marketed it well,........ NAH, forget it. |
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2009-03-24, 06:57 | Link #157 |
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Just want to point out that writing a cd and doing all the recording studio stuff isn't as expensive as making say an anime or tv show, at the time the 11 .99 purchase point was already netting the music industry substantial gains, which in turn led to more risks in shitty music, the fact that if it could be a hit in "main stream" then having a recording deal with an artist that had hit would be worth it, the intrinsic costs of making anime are way higher and in return the profit margins are more slim. So music is a different beast because of its entry point and the fact that its markup was probably far greater than its "worth" helped it survive. Also music piracy was never close to pc piracy, because again most music during the time of napster was shovelware... just mind you this was when backstreetboys and nsync were popular.
ok, ANN man they piss me off, not only do they seem to value liscencing companies over production companies but the whole forum is one way, and really I don't think of it as a true forum just from all the stifled thinking there. Anyway, the American model works because the shows that air are already payed for in full and dvd sales become a big bonus/profit which makes pirating more of a detriment because when the industry sees their pure profits go down the drain its more of a "loss" also american series don't have merchandising arms like anime. Anyway the model would work for anime if american/western liscensing were seen as extra icing or not critical for production but for some shows its actually part of the budget. Again I've state my opinion of the liscencing companies and really feel that the sooner they get axed from the anime distribution system teh sooner we approach more streamlined delivery of anime. This is more so with films where with the advent of the internet, the global has become more connected then ever and the idea of information being restricted by region becomes more and more backward... and I say to the entire industry, wake up and smell the napalm, if you don't you'll get burned. |
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