2003-12-25, 17:27 | Link #1 |
shush! I was only helping
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contridiction
Now i was wondering in the rules it says dont ask about illegal things like kazzaa ect,but then again isnt fansubbing illegal???
I dont wanna sound like a dumb ass or anything but i'd thought id point it out... sorry... But ain ti right?? |
2003-12-25, 17:33 | Link #2 | |
Just call me Ojisan
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But I suggest you have a read of our Licensed Anime page. It's well hidden away, I mean it's only linked from the AnimeSuki front page |
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2003-12-25, 17:38 | Link #3 | |
shush! I was only helping
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Are u been sarcastic?? but if u havent thanks for supporting me... |
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2003-12-25, 19:04 | Link #5 | |
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The fact is, the japanese copyright holders don't care about fansubs because they don't actually do them any harm. They don't stand anything to gain from cracking down on fansubbers so they don't. For the western licensing companies it's a different story though, as the availability of a "free" alternative to their releases is obviously going to have an effect on their profits. |
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2003-12-25, 19:59 | Link #7 | |
HainShodan
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That doesn't make any sence at all, becuase the effect for western licensing companies should be no different from japanese copyright holders. It's just that japan CANT do anything about it becuase people who sub are in america, which they have no athourity over. |
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2003-12-25, 20:09 | Link #8 | |
lv.2 频道贼
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It was the US companies who bought the license, translate the anime and then broadcast/sell dvd |
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2003-12-25, 20:12 | Link #9 |
The Man, The Legend......
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Rhia - I'm glad to hear you bit the bullet and are reading the rules! It's good to ask questions about anything you don't understand.
wnkryo - actually their work is still protected under international copyright laws
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2003-12-26, 04:14 | Link #10 | |
Europeon
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On the other hand, the western licensing companies and fansubbers provide pretty much the same service, so they are competitive products. The availability of a free product which provides much of the same functionality as a commercial one will naturally affect sales. It's a different can of worms if the effect is actually positive or negative, but that doesn't matter when talking about copyrights (atleast according to the music industry). And lastly, the japanese companies do have a degree of authority over people in America, as while there is no international copyright law there are numerous agreements between various countries in which they agree to enforce each other's copyrights. |
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2003-12-26, 09:51 | Link #11 | |
日本語を食べません!
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By the strict letter of the law, yes, you are violating copyright law of rights to distribution. Generally, Japanese companies don't care b/c they only focus on the Japanese market; if they thought fansubs were a real threat to their way of business they would crack down HARD and FAST. They do stand to make a lot of money on licensing to US companies, in which case fansubs may be a free way of advertising/getting people to demand they license Hikaru no Go (which almost no one would buy w/o having seen it first). The original spirit of fansubs were to spread awareness of unknown anime and hope for it to be licensed; for a thread on whether or not they should still exist click here. |
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2003-12-27, 04:59 | Link #15 | |
The Man, The Legend......
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2003-12-27, 05:34 | Link #16 | |
Busy wasting my time..:-(
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Isn't this subject get debated/beaten to death before the board crushed?
Rhia, here is a little enlightenment from AnimeNewsNetwork that might answer your question. Quote:
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2003-12-27, 06:56 | Link #17 |
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like many things this question has a hand in many answers, is it ethically wrong to steal someones creation? but what if that creation would be inaccessable to others if you didnt. many of the releases have never reached eu ground and thus if fansubbing were to cease, there would be a huge population with out access to this resource. i believe that the tables are balanced because all of those who may not pay for the privalge of viewing a episode would probebly never had access to it either way, and there are plenty of people paying for it.
who believes that missy elliot is going to starve if i download her tune, take a look at mtv cribs and you will see my point, i believe in a code of old which is if you like (and you can) purchase or make somekind of attempt to compensate for it. two of the oldest professions alive, prostitution and counterfieting and they will never go away. the first comany to embrace it will reap the rewards i am sure. it is a bit ironic though that we dont distribute when the US licences stuff, because a) doesnt always mean other people have got it and we stop the flow of previously free information. b) if copyright is the reason why do we not recognise the japanese copyright. to close i will say,... let the scene live on, and this cool site should lead the way |
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