2021-01-23, 10:14
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kobe, Japan
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 Romney (2014??) lost to a popular incumbent, which hardly makes him a historical oddity. He's also a relatively weak, patrician candidate. There are, however, potential Republican candidates who aren't sociopathic fascists like Trump (sociopathic anyway) who might make respectable national candidates. The point is that Trump is poison - the coup has tainted his brand beyond repair, and he was already one of the most unpopular incumbent Presidents in a century. If they continue to allow him to be the face of the party they're screwed. Choosing another path at least gives them a chance.
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2021-01-23, 10:27
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Mexico
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But as I have said before, I do not think the GOP will have the chance to choose, look closely at all those repubs that will vote against impeaching trump in the second trial, those wimps will jump ship into the trump's patriot party the very day trump announces its formation. Those that stay will have no other option than rehabilitation. The good news is that with three parties there will be no other option than good old dialogue, because the repubs will no longer be able to go the "is my way or the highway" route. |
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2021-01-23, 11:29
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2021-01-23, 17:06
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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/...mpression=true
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2021-01-23, 17:26
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Republic of California
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I did a little rapid number crunching on the election, since people are still arguing that it was stolen and such. Their are likely many theories on the matter and disputes on number and such. But for all that bluster only around 2/3rds of the voting population voted this election. The largest percentage voter turnout since 1908. But before that it was common to have 70 to 80% of the voting population vote on the subject of the President of the United States.
In recent years voter turnout has been around 50% of the voting population. Partly due to apathy. "What does my vote matter? The state always votes this way anyway" But here, this last year, there is a decisive turn of events. Where both sides start to say that if the other side wins, the country is lost. So people come and vote. And when given a way to get around some of the more egregious voter suppression methods (long lines, single voting booths, one drop out in a county), and some not having to choose between voting and a day's pay, more people voted. And it is known that registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans. About 5% more. Just look at 2016. Around 55% voter turnout. about 63 million for Trump and about 66 million for Clinton. Much of that 3 million over was California's overwhelming voting for Clinton. Now look at this year. Around 66% voter turnout. around 74 million for Trump, and around 81 million for Biden. By the percentages of the voter turnout for both elections, there should be about 235 million voters in the country. Of which a third did not bother to vote in 2020 for President. The total population of the United States is estimated by the Census to be over 330 million. Take out the children and illegals, and 235 million is about correct for adult age American citizens. The numbers needed for the election to be stolen, don't add up compared to the number of voters available. At least in terms of the popular vote.
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2021-01-25, 11:29
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Join Date: May 2011
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Boot licking at its finest, shame on you SCOTUS:
Supreme Court dismisses emolument cases against Trump https://us.cnn.com/2021/01/25/politi...ald-trump-case |
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2021-01-25, 23:06
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Join Date: Dec 2013
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^Manchin is a republican in everything but name. He's not even running for any future reelection, so he has zero political reason to side with the Republicans. If Murkowski is going to become a Democrat or independent, she better do it soon because with Joe Manchin, the senate might as well still have a republican majority.
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2021-01-26, 13:32
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However there is still the possibility that he could be sued for damages retroactively although this is its own can of worms. |
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2021-01-26, 14:49
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2021-01-26, 15:03
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I disagree with you all.
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And it makes sense: you sue to achieve some result. Since the plaintiffs asked for the courts to stop Trump abusing his position as POTUS, and he already lost the ability to do that, there isn't any point in continuing things. Of course, there ought to be some way to punish him for all the shit he pulled, including the profiteering. I'm not sure there's one, though. But then, I'm not a lawyer either. In better news: |
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2021-01-26, 22:35
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2021-01-27, 02:57
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Join Date: Dec 2013
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^ok sorry my bad, I'll correct that. Anywhere else in the world, other than Hungary and the UK, the Democratic Parry would be the conservative party.
But seriously, I freaking wish Democrats were the radical leftist/socialists/liberals that Republicans portray them as. It's nice, watching right wing commentators fearmonger about the far left policies that will be enacted by the radical communist/socialist, Joe Biden. I see this and I'm like "Damn, dont threaten me with a good time". |
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