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Old 2007-05-24, 12:49   Link #21
Nicholi
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Well, for PORN, yeah, wmv is the most common for DVD rips .

TV-cappers seem to prefer divx, however. At least on share, I see 3x more divx encodes than wmv or xvid. You see more and more x264 raws though, every day.
Well don't forget they practically stick everything into AVI, so you have tons of VfW WMV stuff in AVI as well as the normal .WMV junk. But I'm quite sure if you look harder you'll see WMV caps/rips/etc outnumber anything else on both Share and Winny. And no not referring to porn here either :P.
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Old 2007-05-24, 14:39   Link #22
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Well don't forget they practically stick everything into AVI, so you have tons of VfW WMV stuff in AVI as well as the normal .WMV junk. But I'm quite sure if you look harder you'll see WMV caps/rips/etc outnumber anything else on both Share and Winny. And no not referring to porn here either :P.
Okay, time to bring the evidentiary beat-down...

I'm using hashdb, a winny hash database, searching for a recent episode, say, Lucky Star episode 6:

http://hashdb.com/search.php?q=%A4%E...%CF%C3&p=1&s=u

Let's count the results, shall we?

3 WMV
1 unknown (unlabled avi)
1 x264
_11_ Divx

You can repeat this for any episode of any show you want. I've been raw hunting for many years and there are MANY more divx raws (most of them crappy) than any other format, for pretty much any show, period.

Let's choose a slightly different genre, shall we?

Bokurano, ep 5:
http://hashdb.com/search.php?q=%A4%D...%CF%C3&p=1&s=u

3 Divx
1 WMV
1 x264

again, divx wins.

What are these shows with "mostly wmv" raws out there? I've never seen it.
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Old 2007-05-24, 14:49   Link #23
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From my experience I would say that DivX is the most common one that I see, however I only search for stuff that I need, no random searches for Naruto just for fun...
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Old 2007-05-24, 16:32   Link #24
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What are these shows with "mostly wmv" raws out there? I've never seen it.
If you want counter-examples, no problem. I'll use the same site I guess.

Well, here's one example:

http://hashdb.com/search.php?q=%A5%A...%CF%C3&p=1&s=u

(ep 5 of Code Geass, choose the episode number at random.)

12 WMV
9 DivX
4 x264
2 unlabeled AVI

Well, with the uncertainty of those unlabeled AVIs, I guess you could call it a draw.


Here's another:

http://hashdb.com/search.php?q=%A4%C...%CF%C3&p=1&s=u

(ep 2 of Tokimeki Memorial (Again, took a random ep number))

8 WMV
2 DivX
1 x264


Doesn't seem worth debating over too much, it'll vary per show. Besides, aren't we kind of getting off-topic here?

Back to the matter at hand, I think that Perfect Dark is worth keeping an eye on. If the Japanese make the switch, it only makes sense for us to follow suit.
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Old 2007-05-28, 02:17   Link #25
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First of all...
Winny.. WinNY fails, it's old and outdated.
Share EX2 that's what im currently using for "distroing" my dvd rips, either mkv or avi oriented ones.

Half of the dvd rips of AVs (Adult Videos) either have crappy bitrate or are really fooly encoded with weird sizes of both the pixel/bitrate oriented way.

Perfect Dark, PD or EX3 as some may call it, is not gonna go up like share or winny did, due to that it's layout is pretty much "screwed up". I wont use Perfect dark, even if it reaches v1.0 the layout is just not worth it.

Sure they've exploited Share already, but hell I aint gona end up with nothing.
We release both new and old stuff on share, just like winny users does. But then again, dont expect to find any fansubs containing english anytime soon
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Old 2007-05-29, 07:56   Link #26
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i've tried PD, i don't mind the layout, but the font size is annoying as hell. anyway, i've only managed to get one episode from it, and it was really slow (obviously). i'm gonna stick with winny and share for now
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Old 2007-05-29, 08:05   Link #27
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i've tried PD, i don't mind the layout, but the font size is annoying as hell. anyway, i've only managed to get one episode from it, and it was really slow (obviously). i'm gonna stick with winny and share for now
I've found the speed to comparable if not better than Share.

PD has great potential but it has quite a ways to go before it can become an adequate replacement. I look forward to version 1.0.
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Old 2007-05-29, 08:25   Link #28
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i've only tried it for a few anime, so i don't really know how good it really is
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Old 2007-05-29, 11:00   Link #29
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Tried using it for downloading some PV's. It's slow. Slower than Share and WinNY. At the moment I'd chose those two over PD.
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Old 2007-05-30, 04:45   Link #30
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Quarkboy: Yeah the Japanese seem to prefer these archaic god-awful BBS systems from like 1992, and I can't figure out why. There are plenty of good BBS offerings online. phpbb and Invision come to mind, among others. And then 4chan went and used the same god-awful BBS...

I am seeing a fairly significant upswing in H264 raws, which is a good thing. Even WMV9 quality isn't bad IMHO.
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Old 2007-06-03, 04:42   Link #31
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First of all...
Winny.. WinNY fails, it's old and outdated.
Share EX2 that's what im currently using for "distroing" my dvd rips, either mkv or avi oriented ones.

Half of the dvd rips of AVs (Adult Videos) either have crappy bitrate or are really fooly encoded with weird sizes of both the pixel/bitrate oriented way.

Perfect Dark, PD or EX3 as some may call it, is not gonna go up like share or winny did, due to that it's layout is pretty much "screwed up". I wont use Perfect dark, even if it reaches v1.0 the layout is just not worth it.

Sure they've exploited Share already, but hell I aint gona end up with nothing.
We release both new and old stuff on share, just like winny users does. But then again, dont expect to find any fansubs containing english anytime soon
lol about your comment on winny...

It most certainly does not fail. What is most certainly does is fail on users who just happen to be in the wrong area and/or have a POS node list or are just plain unlucky. With an odd node list I seemingly found, it got even better when a friend of mine just dumped his 700KB+ list on me, but even before then I've found many seriously old files and even the newest files before anyone even knows they are there and so far winny has never failed me, unlike how share apparently did.

The saying now takes effect, "to each their own". We can then mash the "one man's trash is another man's treasure" saying and mix in the "sometimes you're lucky, sometimes you aint" saying....



What I do find funny is I've had this PD for quite some weeks but just never got around to even looking at the file...
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Old 2007-06-03, 08:48   Link #32
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To the best of my knowledge (and I could be wrong), both Winny and Share are not compatible with Windows Vista. I'm not sure about PD's adoption rate, but in a year or two, a fair percentage of people worldwide will be using Vista and the fansub community is going to need a next-generation client to get the job done.

I don't want to have to dual-boot or run a virtual instance of XP just to get raws and neither will the Japanese.

(FYI, I have zero plans to upgrade to Vista until at least SP1.)
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Old 2007-06-03, 14:25   Link #33
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I must have missed the "next generation" part of PD ? What does it do special beyond the already completely usable Share, which doesn't require Japanese locale encoding?

I see no reason why Share or even WinNY would be "incompatible" with Vista either. Set up your permissions, forward your ports through whatever the horrible new firewall interface is. Magix.
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Old 2007-06-03, 14:46   Link #34
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I must have missed the "next generation" part of PD ? What does it do special beyond the already completely usable Share, which doesn't require Japanese locale encoding?

I see no reason why Share or even WinNY would be "incompatible" with Vista either. Set up your permissions, forward your ports through whatever the horrible new firewall interface is. Magix.
In Vista, Share tries to work, but bombards you with memory leak dialog boxes. I've heard many conflicting reports about Winny (as well as Winnyp) and Vista not being very friendly. Some say it works, some say it's fickle, and others say it doesn't.
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Old 2007-06-03, 15:28   Link #35
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I may give this a go sometime; unfortunately I've never had the patience to perservere with winny, and Share gives me port errors ever since I had to go down the route of wireless routers and crap.

My situation is I have a Linksys ADSL 2 modem, which has router like software (it has port forwarding and stuff you commonly get in a router), and this modem is hooked into a WRT54GL which is a wireless router, also with port forwarding and stuff. Normal port forwarding I could probably get on with, but I'm confused. The router is 192.168.1.1 and the modem is 192.168.2.1
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Old 2007-06-03, 15:39   Link #36
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You may not notice it, but PD is starting to gain momentum on 2ch's Download threads. Last I heard, there was a hash cataloging site in the works.
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Old 2007-06-28, 19:25   Link #37
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On a tangentally related note: steroz is down! (The place I get my nodes from)

must...have...nodes...vital...lifeforce...ebbing.. .

Does anyone here have any good node-listing sites? My nodes are about a month old now, and with steroz down...
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Old 2007-06-29, 02:10   Link #38
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Not sure if it's allowed to post those sites here. Anyway, check your PM >_>;.
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Old 2007-06-29, 06:36   Link #39
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(Onniguru, I use peerto and xrea for nodes)

Does anyone else find it cool how PD automagically updates itself?
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Old 2007-06-29, 06:50   Link #40
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Share works perfectly fine in Vista.
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