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orion · 2011-08-29, 01:16

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Originally Posted by PreSage

I see that many suggest Yukio's frustration stems from his inability to protect his brother but I wonder about that. Yes, his frustration is partly due to that but I think there's more. He keeps thinking about the small flash of blue power that rose from his blood (and there's that dark marking on his arm). Maybe Yukio is actually afraid he's becoming like Rin, harbouring Satan's power. Maybe he feels that if he can protect his brother, then he is powerful enough to overcome the changes that are occurring within him. But since he is failing, his fear of himself is growing. I wonder, if in the end, Rin may have to fight Yukio - if Yukio does indeed change as the series is hinting.

And his grandfather? Is that his grandfather from his mother's or father's side? He looks human...maybe his mother's?

Yukio is not as strong enough of a container like Rin so in reality he is weaker. Those markings on his arm is proof. (Rin has no such markings.) He'll prob die like everyone did when they were possessed by Satan.

Yukio just benefited from early training which Rin never got. Rin was kept in the dark.

If Yukio is having daily exams, how come no one has found those spots yet?

PreSage · 2011-08-29, 14:43

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Originally Posted by orion

Yukio is not as strong enough of a container like Rin so in reality he is weaker. Those markings on his arm is proof. (Rin has no such markings.) He'll prob die like everyone did when they were possessed by Satan.

Yukio just benefited from early training which Rin never got. Rin was kept in the dark.

If Yukio is having daily exams, how come no one has found those spots yet?

Oh, so he had those markings on his arm all along? For some reason, I must have missed that in previous episodes and only noticed it now - so I thought it only recently appeared. I guess he's fearing that he may die if Satan's powers appear in him; is that why he constantly goes for a check-up (aside from other reasons by the Vatican). Well, it looks like he may be doing some of the check-ups himself (such as the blood drops in the test tube), which could be why no one spotted those markings or maybe those markings just means he's not the real vassel so no one really cares about it.

Hmm, if Yukio does indeed fear his death...that would further explain his frustration for being weaker than Rin. I just don't think his frustration is solely due to his inability to protect Rin...I think it's much more personal. I think Yukio underestimates his brother too much and struggles with his problems alone without Rin's help (isn't Rin the elder?...or the younger twin?...can't remember). He should realize that Rin is very well capable...and two heads (especially twins' heads) are better than one.

LKK · 2011-08-29, 15:09

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Originally Posted by PreSage

(isn't Rin the elder?...or the younger twin?...can't remember)

Rin is the older twin. Although the subs I watch always have Yukio calling Rin "Rin", in reality Yukio calls him "niisan" because Rin's the older brother.

mechalord · 2011-08-30, 11:11

So, is this series going to the full 50-52 with original content or not?

This can still turn into the prologue for the manga story arc following the squire camp very easily. But this Egin fellow kind of threw a screw ball.

It looks like they may actually go FMA first series on this.

I always thought Yukio would go angelic and that's why he was so weak, because he inherited the side of the devil that was once an angel... he'd turn into some form of Nephilim. I think the manga could go there.

If they go original on this, I hope they do it in one 52 episode shot. Maybe in several years they'll make a full adaptation of the manga...

Jan-Poo · 2011-08-30, 11:33

You know, I think Satan killed Neuhaus's son or sons. That would explain why both he and his wife hate Satan that much.

Kakkou · 2011-08-30, 11:39

AoEx is set for 25 episodes and no sequel has been announced yet. At the rate they're going I don't see a return to the manga story at all unless they just use elements of it along with a mostly original plot.

Nevertheless, I still wish for a sequel even if it's purely original since a solid conclusion in 5 more episodes seems a bit of a stretch. That and I just love this series so I wouldn't mind one more 2 cour season and will keep trying to help add to their sales figures in hopes it'll happen.

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Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

You know, I think Satan killed Neuhaus's son or sons. That would explain why both he and his wife hate Satan that much.

He's already said before that Satan posessed him and killed his family. The question now is whether or not his wife really died or is she related to the artificial life laboratory?

klare · 2011-08-30, 12:04

i wonder is the Yukio in manga acting like this too, this eps he had became not so cool anymore, hope it is not jealousy

grand... grandfather? i guess from their mother side

Jan-Poo · 2011-08-30, 12:08

That reminds me of an old joke about those roman catholic priests who are talking and then one says: "will we ever see the day when we will be allowed to marry?" and the other answers "I don't think so. But maybe our children will."

mechalord · 2011-08-30, 13:47

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Originally Posted by Kakkou

AoEx is set for 25 episodes and no sequel has been announced yet. At the rate they're going I don't see a return to the manga story at all unless they just use elements of it along with a mostly original plot.

Nevertheless, I still wish for a sequel even if it's purely original since a solid conclusion in 5 more episodes seems a bit of a stretch. That and I just love this series so I wouldn't mind one more 2 cour season and will keep trying to help add to their sales figures in hopes it'll happen.

He's already said before that Satan posessed him and killed his family. The question now is whether or not his wife really died or is she related to the artificial life laboratory?

The next manga arc just sort of starts out of nowhere. Some new character that should have some history with certain factions of the story just kind of shows up and sets off this huge event.

We know a laboratory got raided. Someone is looking for something...

The chicks' costume in episode 20 looks very, very, very familiar.

But that Egin guy kind of ruins it.

Chaos2Frozen · 2011-08-30, 16:56

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Originally Posted by klare

i wonder is the Yukio in manga acting like this too, this eps he had became not so cool anymore, hope it is not jealousy

grand... grandfather? i guess from their mother side

Yes because obviously Fujimoto Shirou doesn't have a father right

?

Hooves · 2011-08-30, 17:18

Fujimoto Shirou came from nowhere because he was that awesome just like he was when he was a Paladin.

Dist · 2011-08-30, 22:50

Damn.. I was hoping to see some epic magic by Melphisto.. too bad his chanting got interrupted.. he looked so wicked, too, while he was about to say the last word.

I wonder if they're gonna end AnE to 26 (or was it 24) episodes.. This seems like one of those series that could go on and on.

orion · 2011-08-31, 17:51

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Originally Posted by Hooves

Fujimoto Shirou came from nowhere because he was that awesome just like he was when he was a Paladin.

I agree. Awesomeness on that level should not be repeated in the same generation. So he also has to be an only child.

Too bad Mephisto got stopped, I wanted him to rain hell on that perp.

FlareKnight · 2011-09-01, 19:31

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Originally Posted by klare

i wonder is the Yukio in manga acting like this too, this eps he had became not so cool anymore, hope it is not jealousy

grand... grandfather? i guess from their mother side

I don't think it's about jealousy, but some kind of reaction with the Satan blood inside of him. We've seen his arm and also the testing he's been doing presumably on his blood. He's clearly trying to deal with it himself and is acting unusual because of it. He's probably also worried about it and what's going to happen to him. After all it looks less like a power activating and more like a disease.

Guido · 2011-09-03, 11:13

I was away on another business trip for two weeks and hope this'll be the last one for the rest of the year.

On-Topic
What I think the flagship element for this anime is definitely the soundtrack.

The background scores truly reflect and manifest the mood of the action, of the settings, and most importantly, of the characters. Because, I know that each character has his or her own individual score.

Letting that aside, Mephisto put on a huge gamble with the Vatican, agreeing to have Rin all toughened up and bulk-up for within half-a-year.

But, what I truly got me heartbroken, though in a reasonable and understandable manner was witnessing that Rin's again having to put through all that fear and discrimination he was subjected in his childhood now that him being Satan's son has been found out.

More than Suguro, Konekomaru's the most traumatized and devastated upon learning that truth; understandable since his family got killed in an instant back at the "Blue Nigh", leaving him an orphan.

The polar opposite to him was Izumo, delivering memorable and unexpected encouragement to Rin at how to build confidence in order for the boy to have his blue flames respond to his will.

P.S. When is the CD single for the ending theme due out?

Kakkou · 2011-09-03, 11:21

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Originally Posted by Guido

P.S. When is the CD single for the ending theme due out?

All the OP/ED singles for Ao no Exorcist have gone on sale already.

ars89 · 2011-09-04, 12:39

So the Grigori ordered the death of their mom. Interesting how he only tells Yukio. Shiemi's grandma must have been pretty awesome to have that many garden spirits. Like how Rin defended her and was fighting the Paladin. Lol the garden spirits saved them in the end. How did their grandpa get control of the council. Looks like things are going to get messy. Like the part in the preview where they show Mephisto just relaxing and eating in prison.

nines · 2011-09-04, 14:54

Yah the grandpa seems like he's going to be more corrupt. And Yukio's gonna have to get reality slapped into him soon I bet.

Jerseykid · 2011-09-04, 16:50

paladin fought and we didn't get to hear the fangirl sword say anything

this is setting up for brother vrs brother showdown

Guido · 2011-09-04, 17:34

One of this show's strong points is the execution at how the drama gets delivered by the characters.

It became pretty tough and shaky for Rin being the only one able to see Gufuu possessing Konekomaru while no one else, not even the latter, were able to see the demon. Then, coupled with Rin's recklessness it led to a tense and nasty situation where no one else believed Rin and misinterpreted his actions to be violent rather than protecting.

Although, I could see Bon attempting to give in to his doubts and shakiness towards Rin when he spoke of him to Konekomaru at the hospital bed.

If you ask for my theories, it's pretty much granted that Negaus is responsible for breaching Mephisto's barrier through the use of the dimensional key, since patched-guy was standing above from the crime scene while Shura was investigating the matter.

As for the ruins of the lab....

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Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	You know, I think Satan killed Neuhaus's son or sons. That would explain why both he and his wife hate Satan that much. __________________

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klare Senior Member Join Date: May 2009	i wonder is the Yukio in manga acting like this too, this eps he had became not so cool anymore, hope it is not jealousy grand... grandfather? i guess from their mother side __________________

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Jan-Poo 別にいいけど Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: forever lost inside a logic error	That reminds me of an old joke about those roman catholic priests who are talking and then one says: "will we ever see the day when we will be allowed to marry?" and the other answers "I don't think so. But maybe our children will." __________________

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Dist Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Finland Age: 33	Damn.. I was hoping to see some epic magic by Melphisto.. too bad his chanting got interrupted.. he looked so wicked, too, while he was about to say the last word. I wonder if they're gonna end AnE to 26 (or was it 24) episodes.. This seems like one of those series that could go on and on. __________________

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Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Lure I was away on another business trip for two weeks and hope this'll be the last one for the rest of the year. On-Topic What I think the flagship element for this anime is definitely the soundtrack. The background scores truly reflect and manifest the mood of the action, of the settings, and most importantly, of the characters. Because, I know that each character has his or her own individual score. Letting that aside, Mephisto put on a huge gamble with the Vatican, agreeing to have Rin all toughened up and bulk-up for within half-a-year. But, what I truly got me heartbroken, though in a reasonable and understandable manner was witnessing that Rin's again having to put through all that fear and discrimination he was subjected in his childhood now that him being Satan's son has been found out. More than Suguro, Konekomaru's the most traumatized and devastated upon learning that truth; understandable since his family got killed in an instant back at the "Blue Nigh", leaving him an orphan. The polar opposite to him was Izumo, delivering memorable and unexpected encouragement to Rin at how to build confidence in order for the boy to have his blue flames respond to his will. P.S. When is the CD single for the ending theme due out?

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mechalord Deploying Funnel Cakes Join Date: Jan 2008	So, is this series going to the full 50-52 with original content or not? This can still turn into the prologue for the manga story arc following the squire camp very easily. But this Egin fellow kind of threw a screw ball. It looks like they may actually go FMA first series on this. I always thought Yukio would go angelic and that's why he was so weak, because he inherited the side of the devil that was once an angel... he'd turn into some form of Nephilim. I think the manga could go there. If they go original on this, I hope they do it in one 52 episode shot. Maybe in several years they'll make a full adaptation of the manga...

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ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	So the Grigori ordered the death of their mom. Interesting how he only tells Yukio. Shiemi's grandma must have been pretty awesome to have that many garden spirits. Like how Rin defended her and was fighting the Paladin. Lol the garden spirits saved them in the end. How did their grandpa get control of the council. Looks like things are going to get messy. Like the part in the preview where they show Mephisto just relaxing and eating in prison. __________________ My Anime List

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nines I much prefer the 2d Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Frontier Age: 31	Yah the grandpa seems like he's going to be more corrupt. And Yukio's gonna have to get reality slapped into him soon I bet. __________________

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Jerseykid Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	paladin fought and we didn't get to hear the fangirl sword say anything this is setting up for brother vrs brother showdown

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Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Storm Wind One of this show's strong points is the execution at how the drama gets delivered by the characters. It became pretty tough and shaky for Rin being the only one able to see Gufuu possessing Konekomaru while no one else, not even the latter, were able to see the demon. Then, coupled with Rin's recklessness it led to a tense and nasty situation where no one else believed Rin and misinterpreted his actions to be violent rather than protecting. Although, I could see Bon attempting to give in to his doubts and shakiness towards Rin when he spoke of him to Konekomaru at the hospital bed. If you ask for my theories, it's pretty much granted that Negaus is responsible for breaching Mephisto's barrier through the use of the dimensional key, since patched-guy was standing above from the crime scene while Shura was investigating the matter. As for the ruins of the lab.... Spoiler: Recall episode 17 when Izumo told Rin that there also half-Human/half-Demon exorcists, I theorized that's precisely why the Vatican banned that lab 300 years ago because forbidden experiments were conducted at either creating hybrids to be used as Exorcists or to be used as weapons.