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Old 2021-09-21, 18:07   Link #1201
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I thought he was using Blue this chapter, not UI?

Vegeta offering himself up as a sacrifice doesn't really make sense to me. Like, I get he understands the quest for vengeance, but I really don't see why he feels a need to just let himself get off'd.

The Bardock thing is just to get Granolah on their side. It won't amount to anything beyond that.
That's my point. He wasn't using UI and did better than with it. This Granolah was a lot stronger than the clone he fought and the one that knocked him out earlier.

Vegeta being willing to sacrifice himself is related to what Beerus told him when the arc started. He feels responsible and guilty about the Saiyans and his own past actions. He fought his hardest in order to survive, but he was okay with dying at the hand of someone who suffered because of his people.

I'm afraid they're going to whitewash Bardock.
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Old 2021-09-23, 03:15   Link #1202
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Ultra Ego is still definetly in the Ultra Instinct sign stage. That Vegeta has to "revert" to a personality he grew out from tells a lot about how unreliable the power is at its current state. Vegeta being capable of invoking from a different perspective may allow him to actually and unironically gain a power equivalent to mastered ultra instinct. I think that in conjunction with his new fission power, Vegeta should be able to offload the damage he gets to deal more damage and have more stamina in a fight
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Old 2021-09-27, 15:10   Link #1203
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That's my point. He wasn't using UI and did better than with it.
Sorry it's late, but I think the feat that Goku manages to pull in this chapter is because of UI. For starter, we don't see anyone else can do that. To me, it's more like Goku can now communicate very well with his body, and his body can respond to any need Goku wants. That needs crazy amount of training and you need to know your body real well to do so(don't know a thing in martial art, but I think there is something similar like that in real life?? )

Vegeta when he wins--"Finally I don't need to protect anything", "Who cares if your tribe got slaughtered!"

Vegeta when he loses--"Sorry I can't be as cold-hearted as I used to be", "Your hate against us is justified"

Luckily we all know Vegeta's backstory, but still sounds like a sore loser

And I hope we don't whitewash Badrock as well
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Old 2021-09-29, 18:44   Link #1204
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Ok, so after this arc showing that UI isnt some kind of magical transformation that makes Goku nighly invincible and impossible to beat, and after witnessing Ultra Ego, can we still hope for a Goku vs Beerus rematch?
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Old 2021-10-18, 14:50   Link #1205
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Full chapter summary and some pics are out. Long story short...

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Old 2021-10-18, 16:12   Link #1206
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Full chapter summary and some pics are out. Long story short...

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Old 2021-10-18, 18:28   Link #1207
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Old Today, 06:33   Link #1209
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Just read the chapter. But.
Wait, 40 years ago?
Goku is more than 40 years old now. And shouldn't Bardock be already dead?
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Old Today, 06:57   Link #1210
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Just read the chapter. But.
Wait, 40 years ago?
Goku is more than 40 years old now. And shouldn't Bardock be already dead?
Have you forgotten that Goku is a grandpa now?

The flashback took place when the Saiyans were still alive
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Old Today, 07:13   Link #1211
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Have you forgotten that Goku is a grandpa now?

The flashback took place when the Saiyans were still alive
Yeah, the timeline is fine. The events of this flashback most likely take place right before Minus.
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