2010-07-09, 20:27 | Link #3021 |
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I don't know the specific chapter, but it's Maria that mentions it at the very beginning so it shouldn't be hard to find. It's just a mention that the Shrine wasn't there though so it's nothing big.
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2010-07-09, 20:38 | Link #3023 |
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Greetings, everyone. I'm new to this forum, so before you allow me to speak, let me introduce myself.
Alan de Ouralfald de Wolfrau, the Heresy Inquisitor of Ordo Hereticus. At your service. Please, allow me to use blue when i need it. That's all. Nice to meet you all /smile/ Now, allow me to ask - now you all talking about the mirror. But did you forget about the shrine? By the Jessica's words, it was crushed by lighting... but what if it was some kind of exploison, caused by Shannon? Or fire? Allow me to use blue: By "breaking" Shannon means a complete destruction of something related to her past, personality and fate. And this "something" was in the shrine/shrine itself/building that looks like a shrine That's all for now. |
2010-07-09, 20:38 | Link #3024 | |
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But i cannot deny the fact that something is definetly wrong with those two. To sum it up, i agree that there are MANY hints about them being... "strange", but i don't think they are the same person. It feels a bit too extreme... To be honest i'm really confused about them, and i hope i'll get a better understanding when i read ep6 as given the game cover i assume they will have a central role in it. |
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2010-07-09, 21:38 | Link #3025 |
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I read EP1 about the shrine...
I don't think it was destroyed by lightning,but this is all the evidence I have.Something here is clearly related to Sayo.My proof?I have none,except for this. Maria was the first to notice the shrine gone,and Battler noticed it before George.They asked Jessica,and she says she doesn't know how it ''broke'',but she claims it broke sometime around last year.Then Battler says it probably broke due to waves,it was a small crag after all.Jessica says it probably disappeared during the summer. Kumasawa claims it might have been a lightning bolt...but she only claims this because she said fishermen say that if lightning bolt fell on a tutelary God it would be of a great misfortune. Let it be known,this is what the shrine was. Why am I connecting this to Sayo,who wasn't even there? If I remembered correctly, Sayo and George had the date around last year,and I think I remember George speaking about blooming,and the summer during the date. When Sayo ''threw'' the mirror,there was a sound of a lightning bolt at the second the screen spun,and then you hear the sound of a mirror breaking. Two things could have happened there. 1.Sayo burned down the shrine! With all the wind,I think it was possible.The only problem is that I find no motive for that at all,unless I keep reading.I'll keep this in mind. or 2.When Sayo threw the mirror,lightning struck and blasted the Shrine away! If you think this way,then it would mean a mirror did break,and lightning also.But the chance of that happening at the same time she threw the mirror would be almost like magic.Which could probably make her believe in ''Beatrice'' even more. Time to go back to episode 2. EP2:After you read about the lightning,she says the mirror broke into two equal parts.Then she says a very suspicious line ''after I've made sure I've accomplished my task, ......I scream up look at the enraged sky''. If all she did was break a mirror.Mission accomplished.But it seems something else went down... Then she talks to ''Beatrice''(yelling at the sky) and ask her to keep her promise.Bah. Last edited by Disz; 2010-07-09 at 21:53. |
2010-07-09, 22:00 | Link #3027 | |
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She does seem a lot like Kinzo in this scene though.
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2010-07-09, 22:01 | Link #3028 | |
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@Judoh: Hah.Me too.I would say she is Kinzo2. |
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2010-07-09, 22:53 | Link #3031 | |
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2010-07-09, 23:01 | Link #3032 |
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Ahh....after reading a bit, I thought changed my mind..
I thought Sayo is the murderer,but not because of Battler.There might have be a new theory,probably suggested along time ago. It seems a bit more logical to think that Sayo arranged murders and used the servants.She probably killed Kannon due to betrayal.I think the motive is to be with George.With that,it's easy to come up with a motive.To take down the Ushiromiya Family and marry George with no problems at all.He'll have no burden.He'll have all the money.She probably uses the epitaph so that she can kill off one more family member,to remind them that they need to solve the mystery.After they do,Sayo could kill them,take the gold,marry George and live an awesome life. Although I can't help think there's a red that contradicts this.When ''Beatrice'' says ''After you find the gold,no more people will die''. So I'll go back to the Sayo the killing killer theory. |
2010-07-09, 23:10 | Link #3033 | |
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The reason it's said breaking a mirror brings misfortune is related to the fact you break your own reflected image. Shannon broke the mirror into two equal parts, that means she broke herself into two parts, she broke her soul into two parts. So the act of breaking the mirror into two symbolizes the split of her soul, and of course the other part is Beatrice. By splitting the mirror, by splitting her soul, Shannon indeed created the conditions for Beatrice to resurrect and materialize in Rokkenjima.
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2010-07-09, 23:20 | Link #3035 |
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Oh and to clear off what some person said,pages and pages ago,when Sayo says ''Even though Kannon gave me words of comfort when I was down.Even so,I was dejected again because it wasn't 'him'.That itself was a sin.''
While by itself,it looks as a reference to battler and 6 years ago,it is better to read what's under it. ''That went far beyond any dream the likes of me could be permitted to see.,I don't know my place'' She recently got ownd by Eva and Nahstuhi,so I'm sure it was about George and his inheritance,and why he shouldn't be with her. Oh I hit it.Jack-o-pot-o! Spoiler for Sayotrice:
That crackle was louder than you think. Last edited by Disz; 2010-07-09 at 23:41. |
2010-07-09, 23:23 | Link #3036 | |
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Skimming ep2 I realized there are so many facts I forgot about. Natsuhi being the head of the PTA. Jessica not returning to Rokkenjima until late.
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2010-07-09, 23:40 | Link #3037 | |
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2010-07-09, 23:44 | Link #3039 |
Back off, I'm a scientist
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It is still an unanswered question whether Shannon and/or Kanon have any off-island lodgings, actually get paid, or even actually exist as far as the law is concerned. We imagine they have to, but none of the stuff is ever mentioned.
I wonder though, could it be that neither of them actually exist in the first place, not even a Sayo to play both...
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2010-07-09, 23:48 | Link #3040 | |
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