2008-10-04, 23:11 | Link #61 |
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The second episode improves on the first quite substantially, in my opinion. In addition to Isaac Asimov, we now have a reference to Philip K. Dick as well. The writing team clearly knows it is treading on familiar ground, but at the same time, manages to go down a fresh, new track.
The theme is not so much about discrimination and how we deal with it, it seems. To me, it's apparently a play on rules, and how we use them to define ourselves and our meaning. Android behaviours are defined (and confined) by Asimov's Three Rules. Similarly, Eve's Cafe imposes its own sets of rules to protect its customers' privacy, and ironically, to create its own sense of space and individuality. As for the larger conspiracy, it's something we've seen before in many other sci-fi shows involving robots, so I'm not particularly surprised nor excited by the "individuality" circuit. But I'm certainly interested to see how it plays out in relation to the cast. And oh yes, Chii-chan is adorable. She's the first anime character to make me laugh spontaneously this whole season. It's been a pretty dry summer, unfortunately. |
2008-10-05, 02:48 | Link #62 |
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FYI Studio Rikka has simultaneously released the streamed version of the episodes in English, while French, Spanish, German and Italian versions will be released in this month. The producer also actively responds to the comments from the fans in the streaming sites.
It is interesting that everyone made a big fuss out of Gonzo's simultaneous releases but no one cares to pay attention to this one, and would rather grab the fansubs instead. As an ex-fansubber, I am by no means an advocate of the no-fansub crusade. But in my opinion, as a gesture of courtesy, fans of the series should give some minimal support to the studio for its efforts to cater to the needs of the overseas anime fans. Anyway here are the links: Official site in English: http://timeofeve.com/e/ English subs @ CrunchyRoll http://www.crunchyroll.com/library/Time_of_Eve Producer Yoshiura's responses to the comments on the BBS @ CrunchyRoll: Spoiler:
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Thread moved to the Licensed forum, this also means no links to fansubs or mention of fansub groups as per the forum rules. |
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2008-10-05, 08:55 | Link #64 | |
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It's really strange for people to bully around robots though... But whatever gets the attention. I'm not quite sure exactly why there'd be such a backlash on a more intimate relationships with robots in a platonic manner. Heck, people do the same thing with dolls, pets, etc. If there is some sort of a conspiracy to let the AI run loose and experiment with individuality, maybe demonizing the Dori-Kei was a part of the plan. |
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2008-10-05, 15:15 | Link #65 | |
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Streaming seems to be hit or miss on this computer aswell for some reason...When I watched it on the website listed I had a great deal of sputtering if you try the fullscreen and the normal sized is pretty tiny, which really isn't anything new seeing as I get the same thing from places like Youtube...But it defiantly diminishes the enjoyment. I'm supposing if you choose the download option though the quality is better then the stream, but it seems like it suffers from "Americanized" subbing,Android-holic? , so I guess that leaves the option of chipping in my 2 pence for support but still not watching whatever it is I payed for. Not a big deal in the end I suppose since I rarely bother watching official subs due to a distaste for font style/size/color generally, but atleast I get a spiffy artbox and possibly some extras to keep on my shelves... Meh either way its nice that the creators atleast take an interest in their English fanbase.
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2008-10-05, 15:18 | Link #66 | ||
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The same cannot be said about Chobits and in so far I cannot understand TinyRedLeaf's comparison. Behind all window-dressing and beating around the bush, the viewer is of course supposed to imagine Chii as a sex toy/slave. That is the main selling point of that anime (like in all other anime of that genre I'm aware of.)
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To me, the key moment of Episode Two is when the mysterious agent(?) said: "Break the rule, and you won't have a good time here. Or rather, there is no point in being here at all." The irony of the situation is very striking — in Eve's Cafe, there are rules that restrict even as they liberate humans and androids alike. If you extend that thought a bit further, given the difficulty in distinguishing android and humans, you can't help but notice that there are humans who are more robotic than their household appliances! In a society like Japan's, where people are behave according to strict social rules, and often hide their true emotions behind an emotionless facade, it's deliciously satirical that some androids are more "alive" than their masters. This, to me, is what makes Time of Eve an exciting take on an otherwise stale and familiar premise. |
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2008-10-05, 19:00 | Link #68 |
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since my post got deleted before, ill do it the right way this time
I love the idea of androids. i've heard about this series. whats the general feeling of this anime? good or bad?, meh? i heard something on one site that said "pantsu....seriously". is there like....sex or ecchi or something in the second episode? anyone know wtf this person was talking about. either way i might have to check out the series. it looks high quality |
2008-10-05, 20:37 | Link #71 |
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This show is fairly epic, completely not what I was originally expecting. I have to say I'm much more interested in the route they took then the one I originally thought it would be.
Its a pity it is only, 6(?) episodes long I hear.
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2008-10-06, 06:10 | Link #72 |
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Hmmm i was looking at the English version of the official webpage and it says this:"this FIRST SEASON consists of 6 15 min episodes....etccc etc..."
first season?........maybe I missed something but is there a plan to extend it past the 6 episodes? after it's all over. because that would be awesome (btw just watched both episodes. AMAZING) im also curious at what Rikuo and Sammy's "relationship" may end up being at the end of the story. will he end up seeing Androids in a different light, or will they develop emotions. It can go either way ... EXCITING! |
2008-10-06, 07:00 | Link #73 |
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Glad to see people liking this series; Yasuhiro Yoshiura is in need of more deserved attention and fans. For those people who are currently enjoying this, I heartily recommend his Pale Cocoon, which I believe is one of the most underappreciated gems we have around.
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2008-10-06, 09:04 | Link #74 | |
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2008-10-06, 16:01 | Link #75 | |
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and maybe Sammy to accept her own 'emotions' and see how that plays out. and I do not expect a Chobits too. but perhaps a "understanding" of each other and their emotions would be more fitting |
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2008-10-07, 15:30 | Link #76 |
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As long as Sammy =/= Chii, Eve no Jikan =/= Chobits, so I don't care either way. But isn't Sammy a bit too old anyway (well, in appearance)? Is Rikuo a Robo-Onee-Kon?
In other news, I've decided to let out my inner fanboy, sent Moe on paid vacations for two weeks or so and put his bar into competent hand for the meantime.
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2008-10-07, 19:55 | Link #78 | |
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But more seriously and still slightly OT thank you kafka for the recommendation of the directors earlier work Pale Cocoon...It reminded me alot of the first time I watched Voices of a Distant Star although I enjoyed this abit more probably because the art direction had a great deal of impact to it and the characters were slightly more intriguing. Alot of the art was reused throughout but the way they played with light and shadow in most of the shots made it seem different everytime. Easily worth the 10 bucks. I also checked out his short Mizu no Kotaba which seems like Eve's precursor with the whole cafe and robots setting. Either way both were highly enjoyable and more now then ever I can't wait to see what he does and where he goes with this series.
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2008-10-07, 23:27 | Link #79 |
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I sometime wonder why whenever the topic of androids intermingling with humans, we always think "Chobits!"
That aside, i'm glad I got a chance to see the episodes from 1 to 2. The theme is very interesting and the way it's brought out in the anime can be no better. Though it's only 6 episodes long, I wonder what else they can bring out within the next 4. Kimichi - I love your avatar.
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2008-10-08, 07:53 | Link #80 | |
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Honestly, I would think that if people can't handle that kind of misunderstanding, then they simply would not buy robots that way. I guess in that sense, people could overreact and treat robots harshly or excessively like we've seen in Eve so far. It makes sense, but that kind of action reeks pretty much of hypocrisy to me. Then again, people wear all sorts of masks in regard to appearing a certain way in sexual attraction and their ways of lives, so it isn't surprising either. As for Chobits, though that show was more about just fooling around with robots and having ecchi fun, I think that show's underlying message isn't so different from Eve's, though this show obviously puts the psychological aspects of robotic laws at the forefront. |
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