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SuitUp · 2015-02-18, 20:14

It's clear by now Wells is Proffesor Zoom, so you think his powers will be based on time control rather than a connection with the speedforce as it was the case in the comics?

Frontier · 2015-02-19, 02:05

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Originally Posted by SuitUp

It's clear by now Wells is Proffesor Zoom, so you think his powers will be based on time control rather than a connection with the speedforce as it was the case in the comics?

I think his ability to control time is a direct result of his connection to the Speedforce, much like Barry is trying to do now, or rather his absorbing it since I don't think Wells naturally has access to the Speedforce or super-speed like Barry does. That's why he apparently needed the device he stole, since it's evidently been helping him absorb the Speedforce, and why he can't maintain his powers. I'm betting his endgame is to find some ways to make his powers permanent.

Galaxian · 2015-02-19, 17:56

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Are you saying that only Barry travelled through time? So what's the scenario here? The younger Wells saw into the future and orchestrated the murder of Barry's mom so that Barry would become the Flash and help fix the problem with his power?

No, I'm thinking that Wells, both the current one and the theoretical "younger" version are from the future.

monster · 2015-02-19, 21:36

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No, I'm thinking that Wells, both the current one and the theoretical "younger" version are from the future.

I think that would be problematic seeing as how he is a public figure.

Frontier · 2015-02-20, 01:36

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I think that would be problematic seeing as how he is a public figure.

Yeah, after he founded STAR Labs in the present, though for all we know Wells fostered his present-day identity after he traveled back in time from however long in the future and didn't go back. He's probably been in the present since he first traveled back as Revere-Flash, so all he's probably done since then is build up that identity until he built the Particle Accelerator to give Barry his powers.

GDB · 2015-02-20, 10:09

And we know from when Joe first started suspecting him that he didn't arrive in town until JUST before (or was it just after) the murder. And he didn't start working on the accelerator, and thus STAR Labs, until after he moved to town.

monster · 2015-02-20, 13:31

He may be new in town, but he must have some identity before then. His education, past work as a scientist, etc. Why would the other people work for him if he's just an unknown in the scientific world?

SuitUp · 2015-02-20, 14:59

Time traveler from the future = Guy capable of establishing a false identity and run with it? I mean, people can buy time travel but cannot overlook little things like this

monster · 2015-02-20, 15:11

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Time traveler from the future = Guy capable of establishing a false identity and run with it? I mean, people can buy time travel but cannot overlook little things like this

Time travel is a matter of the nature of the physical world. It may be possible or it may not. The average people probably don't have a good reason to dispute its presentation. Creating a false public identity, especially one that deals with the academia, is a matter of human society. So unless their society is vastly different than ours (read: more incompetent), then it's easier to find more problem with it than with time travel.

Anyway, if this Wells is from the future, then I wonder where the future Barry is. Is he dead or restrained somewhere such that he would allow Wells to publicly influence the timeline with his presence?

Galaxian · 2015-03-11, 12:37

New trailer for the return next week...

YouTube

https://youtu.be/E4GyxUYAzJk

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

I love Cisco "meta" jokes.

Ithekro · 2015-03-11, 15:21

And the Trickster (Joker) is back.

SuitUp · 2015-03-11, 15:44

Was Barry running alongside future Barry on that trailer?

Shinji103 · 2015-03-11, 15:54

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Was Barry running alongside future Barry on that trailer?

Supposedly, given the time travel he's talking about at that moment of the trailer, yes.

MrTerrorist · 2015-03-12, 11:26

So if Wells wasn't the Reverse-Flash who murdered Barry's mother, who was it?

Spoiler for My guess:

Frontier · 2015-03-16, 17:00

GDB · 2015-03-16, 17:22

Well, that was intense looking.

Wandering Soul · 2015-03-16, 17:36

That rose my hype levels. Captain Cold apparently figures out Barry's secret and Gorilla Grodd soon look likes he will take the stage.

Looks like they are going to have another crossover with Arrow with Felecity, Laurel, and Ray as the Atom helping out. I highly doubted General Eiling was dead so it's no surprise he is still alive but it looks like he is a meta human now.

Finally Eddie also seems to be starting his transformation into a villain. About Well's last words there might be a twist concerning them since Wells spent this entire season trying to nurture Barry so it seems a bit weird if he then decided to kill Barry unless he doesn't need him anymore.

Shinji103 · 2015-03-17, 05:35

Good god, crossovers everywhere. Even Lance shows up.

Given that it looks like Ray is turning on the Arrow over in that series, I'm not particularly hyped over him showing up to help the Flash.

Hopefully though his opposing Oliver is just a one-episode misunderstanding thing. Lance unfortunately eats a bit of anti-hype too because of his turning on the Arrow and even turning his gun on his own daughter.

Hopefully that's also a one-episode thing.

Anyway, things are heating up now that we're making our approach on the season finale. Punching Barry over Iris I get, but shooting two cops in cold blood? There's definitely something else going on there.

But isn't Wells being found out tomorrow? That's what they've been advertising for the past several weeks, anyway. So why is he still with the team and in the wheelchair whern Ray comes by?

GDB · 2015-03-17, 08:25

Easy way to avoid that anti-hype: not watching Arrow.

As for Wells, it's likely that Barry doesn't know yet and they're trying to figure out whether/when/how to tell him. Or they're being threatened.

*edit*

Well, new episode answered that and more. Holy crap.

Spoiler:

Galaxian · 2015-03-17, 20:01

Wow... Just wow... Big epsiode... Kind of...

2015-02-18, 20:14	Link #81
SuitUp ¡Gracias Totales! Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Entre caníbales... Age: 31	It's clear by now Wells is Proffesor Zoom, so you think his powers will be based on time control rather than a connection with the speedforce as it was the case in the comics? __________________ Tómate el tiempo en desmenuzarme...

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SuitUp ¡Gracias Totales! Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Entre caníbales... Age: 31	Time traveler from the future = Guy capable of establishing a false identity and run with it? I mean, people can buy time travel but cannot overlook little things like this __________________ Tómate el tiempo en desmenuzarme...

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Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	And the Trickster (Joker) is back. __________________

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SuitUp ¡Gracias Totales! Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Entre caníbales... Age: 31	Was Barry running alongside future Barry on that trailer? __________________ Tómate el tiempo en desmenuzarme...

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MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	So if Wells wasn't the Reverse-Flash who murdered Barry's mother, who was it? Spoiler for My guess: If i have to guess, it might be Eddie or an evil Eddie from the future who murdered Barry's mom. Plus, there's also this. __________________

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GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	And we know from when Joe first started suspecting him that he didn't arrive in town until JUST before (or was it just after) the murder. And he didn't start working on the accelerator, and thus STAR Labs, until after he moved to town.

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monster Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	He may be new in town, but he must have some identity before then. His education, past work as a scientist, etc. Why would the other people work for him if he's just an unknown in the scientific world?

2015-03-11, 12:37	Link #90
Galaxian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	New trailer for the return next week... YouTube https://youtu.be/E4GyxUYAzJk Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? I love Cisco "meta" jokes.

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Frontier Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	<p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/qAQn7duY7SM">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________

2015-03-16, 17:22	Link #96
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Well, that was intense looking.

2015-03-16, 17:36	Link #97
Wandering Soul Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: America	That rose my hype levels. Captain Cold apparently figures out Barry's secret and Gorilla Grodd soon look likes he will take the stage. Looks like they are going to have another crossover with Arrow with Felecity, Laurel, and Ray as the Atom helping out. I highly doubted General Eiling was dead so it's no surprise he is still alive but it looks like he is a meta human now. Finally Eddie also seems to be starting his transformation into a villain. About Well's last words there might be a twist concerning them since Wells spent this entire season trying to nurture Barry so it seems a bit weird if he then decided to kill Barry unless he doesn't need him anymore. __________________

2015-03-17, 05:35	Link #98
Shinji103 Crazy Devout Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 1st Ra Cailum-class battleship Ra Cailum, port-side officer's bunks	Good god, crossovers everywhere. Even Lance shows up. Given that it looks like Ray is turning on the Arrow over in that series, I'm not particularly hyped over him showing up to help the Flash. Hopefully though his opposing Oliver is just a one-episode misunderstanding thing. Lance unfortunately eats a bit of anti-hype too because of his turning on the Arrow and even turning his gun on his own daughter. Hopefully that's also a one-episode thing. Anyway, things are heating up now that we're making our approach on the season finale. Punching Barry over Iris I get, but shooting two cops in cold blood? There's definitely something else going on there. But isn't Wells being found out tomorrow? That's what they've been advertising for the past several weeks, anyway. So why is he still with the team and in the wheelchair whern Ray comes by? __________________

2015-03-17, 08:25	Link #99
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Easy way to avoid that anti-hype: not watching Arrow. As for Wells, it's likely that Barry doesn't know yet and they're trying to figure out whether/when/how to tell him. Or they're being threatened. edit Well, new episode answered that and more. Holy crap. Spoiler: So Wells is Eobard Thawne after all. And he killed Cisco for learning the truth, Iris learned the truth behind the Flash, and then Barry went back in time. Last edited by GDB; 2015-03-17 at 20:02.

2015-03-17, 20:01	Link #100
Galaxian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2013	Wow... Just wow... Big epsiode... Kind of...