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ch0c0b0fr34k · 2007-08-01, 02:35

This has nothing to do with the conversation going on, but I feel that the storyline itself (as written in the novels) are turning away from Haruhi and more deeply into the side characters. While I do see merit for such action, I cannot help but feel quite melancholic about Haruhi being shown as nothing more than a prop.

Seeing as how I love this series soley because of Suzumiya's perfect attitude and looks in terms with how I myself imagined it (since I am one of the few, few, few people who read the novels before the anime...), it's quite disappointing now that the camera is being redirected towards another character, with hardly a mention towards my favorite character.

One thing bothering me (mainly) is how the 9th series is Mikuru's focus and everybody else drops down into "autopilot" mode.....personally, I completely dislike her attitude in both the novels and the anime (once again, Kyoto surprises me in this aspect of how well they portray characters). She's too fragile, annoying (excluding her cuteness factor, she really is nothing, so to speak), and frankly doesn't really change. Now, I can also compare this with Kyon, who also hardly changes....but really, he was quite perfect in the first place.

Now, I wouldn't mind if Haruhi was showed some more, since I love every moment where she's mentioned. However, I am frustrated that Suzumiya is "clueless" and although the excuses Kyon gives her are adequate, in some cases they just....fail, no offence. That makes it seem as if the author (pardon me, forgot his name) is actively against Haruhi knowing anything at all. Now, at that point I was wondering how such an academically-strong student such as her could suck up crap like that as fast as a drain....but I suppose there is a reason.

Anyways, being as impatient as I am, I really want the anime to at least show Haruhi being more suspicious. Yes, the novel does have some Haruhi-suspicious moments, but they are extremely far and few between. Hm.....actually, I suppose all I needed to say was that I'm annoyed at the lack of character development in Haruhi, and I sincerely hope the anime is proactive enough to change that. My 2cents.

Alesiopdv · 2007-08-03, 21:54

That seem to be the general complaint about novels 5 and beyond but to me that is not the case

Spoiler for if someone didnt read novels 7 to 9:

Kaioshin Sama · 2007-08-07, 08:15

Had this dream last night that I saw the first episode of the second season, and all it was for the whole time was a title card proclaiming that I was watching the second season of Suzumiya Haruhi, and I think I heard Haruhi going "Myaaaaa!". Anyway, honest to god true story.......and a little bizarre, but it was the greatest thing I'd ever seen until I woke up. Perhaps it had a little something to do with my brain picking up on unfinished thoughts about the rather boring 22 minute promo trailer and going on what I know about the second season, which is nothing. Which is also coincidentally all we need to know right now as it will basically sell itself.....hmmmmmmmm......

BladeStone · 2007-08-11, 09:05

I'm sure this might have been discussed, but which novels was the first season based on, and which novels will the second probably be based on?

Mirrinus · 2007-08-11, 13:12

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Originally Posted by BladeStone

I'm sure this might have been discussed, but which novels was the first season based on, and which novels will the second probably be based on?

First season covered all of volume 1, all but "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody" of volume 3, and 1 story from volumes 5 and 6 each.

I predict that the second season will start off (chronologically) with "Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody", all of novel 4 (which will probably be the main plot, like Melancholy in the first season), and the remaining short stories in volumes 5 and 6, minus "The Melancholy of Asahina Mikuru", which will probably be best to save for when volume 7 gets animated. Don't know if volume 2 will get animated, since it's basically just the making of the movie shown in the first season. There are a few points of interest, like the introduction of Shamisen, but I'm not sure if it's worth telling the whole story.

velocity7 · 2007-08-11, 15:35

If you guys didn't know:

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=660

CLANNAD is confirmed to be airing October 4 this Fall. Not sure about Haruhi at this point...

Mirrinus · 2007-08-11, 18:32

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Originally Posted by velocity7

If you guys didn't know:

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=660

CLANNAD is confirmed to be airing October 4 this Fall. Not sure about Haruhi at this point...

Exactly as I expected. CLANNAD was announced first, after all.

I'm patient enough to wait. Either way, I'm gonna get a show that I'm quite excited to watch.

mugener · 2007-08-11, 22:09

if haruhi 2 is really on winter like what moonphase said (which split clannad in two),
I don't konw if this is an good decision.

Since we know that Japan anime's "hot" season is spring and fall,
winter seems a bit "cold" for an popular anime like haruhi.

Mirrinus · 2007-08-12, 03:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by mugener

if haruhi 2 is really on winter like what moonphase said (which split clannad in two),
I don't konw if this is an good decision.

Since we know that Japan anime's "hot" season is spring and fall,
winter seems a bit "cold" for an popular anime like haruhi.

Eh, I take what Moonphase says with a grain of salt. Wouldn't be surprised if they're wrong.

whitewater_81 · 2007-08-12, 09:40

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Originally Posted by mugener

Since we know that Japan anime's "hot" season is spring and fall,
winter seems a bit "cold" for an popular anime like haruhi.

you'll never know...it's haruhi after all....

mcruz1014 · 2007-08-12, 19:18

I don't think any season with Haruhi showing would be "cold" necessarily

~~kevin13~~ · 2007-08-14, 08:30

Awesome, just recently finished watching the first season, and now I find out there is a second!

Lets just hope it doesn't start of as being licensed and is then only released as Dubbs 2years later or something.

GuidoHunter_Toki · 2007-08-15, 15:24

Can't wait for the 2nd season. I just hope they take there time and make sure its good and don't rush it.

Echoes · 2007-08-15, 17:00

With expectations as high as they are, I doubt they'd rush anything. At least not the bad kind of rush, they'll put plenty of resources into this project. I can't wait. ^__^

Raykun · 2007-08-16, 17:36

can't wait till air date been hooked to dis show 2 days ago wen parents bought me the first volume

raphaël · 2007-08-16, 18:55

I found this video absolutely brilliant. Who else could be bold enough to shoot this and put it online, knowing that thousands ( millions?

) of people are waiting eagerly for the 2nd season of that unique (television, may i remind you) show? Only Japanese animation can give us that. Of course it's strange, and yeah it's boring, but c'mon, that's Haruhi! I would even say there's a very nice blair witch project like touch in it.

my point is : Just like you all, I can't wait.

adelsmud · 2007-08-23, 08:50

Just out of interest, is it OK to expect a season 3?

ch0c0b0fr34k · 2007-08-23, 14:01

Hell, it's oK to expect season 4,5, and 6. At least in my super-optimistic view xD. As long as fanbase stays strong, continuation of the previous season will too.

mcruz1014 · 2007-08-24, 14:09

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Originally Posted by ch0c0b0fr34k

Hell, it's oK to expect season 4,5, and 6. At least in my super-optimistic view xD. As long as fanbase stays strong, continuation of the previous season will too.

Considering that Haruhi is probably the most popular anime in Japan right now, I don't think that the fanbase staying strong would be too much of a problem.

Atheuz · 2007-08-24, 14:11

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Originally Posted by Echoes

With expectations as high as they are, I doubt they'd rush anything. At least not the bad kind of rush, they'll put plenty of resources into this project. I can't wait. ^__^

Two words. Kyoto Animation.

Really, they don't rush and create crappy anime like certain other companies - Besides it's their most popular show as far as I know.

2007-08-03, 21:54	Link #282
Alesiopdv True Believer of Haruhi Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Somewhere, everywhere.. Age: 38	That seem to be the general complaint about novels 5 and beyond but to me that is not the case Spoiler for if someone didnt read novels 7 to 9: Haruhi personality changes a lot from first year to now, in vol 2 she was totally selfish and bossy while doing the movie and doesnt seem to concern about the safety of her friends, and ignore everyone that wasnt part of her brigade. But now she acts very different. Vol 8 is a great example, showing how now she (even when still bossy) helps other people and worry about her friends. Particullary about Yuki. Actually she acts SO worry about Yuki safety that makes me lift my eyebrows. Okey I know Yuri fantasies. But in vol 3 she treats Yuki almost like a stranger but after Snow Mountain Syndrome she is terribly worry something can happen to her. Even Koizumi points this to the (usually) clueless Kyon.

2007-08-11, 15:35	Link #286
velocity7 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	If you guys didn't know: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=660 CLANNAD is confirmed to be airing October 4 this Fall. Not sure about Haruhi at this point... __________________ NAOMI Blog

2007-08-15, 15:24	Link #293
GuidoHunter_Toki Wiggle Your Big Toe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Milwaukee Age: 33	Can't wait for the 2nd season. I just hope they take there time and make sure its good and don't rush it. __________________ I'm an aspiring voice actor, why not check out some of my stuff

2007-08-15, 17:00	Link #294
Echoes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In line to confess his sins. Age: 36	With expectations as high as they are, I doubt they'd rush anything. At least not the bad kind of rush, they'll put plenty of resources into this project. I can't wait. ^__^ __________________ MyAnimeList Reviews and stuff

2007-08-16, 18:55	Link #296
raphaël trainee archangel Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: actually quite close to Jim Morrison Age: 42	woew I found this video absolutely brilliant. Who else could be bold enough to shoot this and put it online, knowing that thousands ( millions? ) of people are waiting eagerly for the 2nd season of that unique (television, may i remind you) show? Only Japanese animation can give us that. Of course it's strange, and yeah it's boring, but c'mon, that's Haruhi! I would even say there's a very nice blair witch project like touch in it. my point is : Just like you all, I can't wait. __________________ YOU USED TO BE ALRIGHT, WHAT HAPPENED? and my literary blog, in french : www.pourlamaingauche.net

2007-08-01, 02:35	Link #281
ch0c0b0fr34k Member Join Date: Aug 2007	This has nothing to do with the conversation going on, but I feel that the storyline itself (as written in the novels) are turning away from Haruhi and more deeply into the side characters. While I do see merit for such action, I cannot help but feel quite melancholic about Haruhi being shown as nothing more than a prop. Seeing as how I love this series soley because of Suzumiya's perfect attitude and looks in terms with how I myself imagined it (since I am one of the few, few, few people who read the novels before the anime...), it's quite disappointing now that the camera is being redirected towards another character, with hardly a mention towards my favorite character. One thing bothering me (mainly) is how the 9th series is Mikuru's focus and everybody else drops down into "autopilot" mode.....personally, I completely dislike her attitude in both the novels and the anime (once again, Kyoto surprises me in this aspect of how well they portray characters). She's too fragile, annoying (excluding her cuteness factor, she really is nothing, so to speak), and frankly doesn't really change. Now, I can also compare this with Kyon, who also hardly changes....but really, he was quite perfect in the first place. Now, I wouldn't mind if Haruhi was showed some more, since I love every moment where she's mentioned. However, I am frustrated that Suzumiya is "clueless" and although the excuses Kyon gives her are adequate, in some cases they just....fail, no offence. That makes it seem as if the author (pardon me, forgot his name) is actively against Haruhi knowing anything at all. Now, at that point I was wondering how such an academically-strong student such as her could suck up crap like that as fast as a drain....but I suppose there is a reason. Anyways, being as impatient as I am, I really want the anime to at least show Haruhi being more suspicious. Yes, the novel does have some Haruhi-suspicious moments, but they are extremely far and few between. Hm.....actually, I suppose all I needed to say was that I'm annoyed at the lack of character development in Haruhi, and I sincerely hope the anime is proactive enough to change that. My 2cents.

2007-08-07, 08:15	Link #283
Kaioshin Sama Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Neither Here nor There Age: 39	Had this dream last night that I saw the first episode of the second season, and all it was for the whole time was a title card proclaiming that I was watching the second season of Suzumiya Haruhi, and I think I heard Haruhi going "Myaaaaa!". Anyway, honest to god true story.......and a little bizarre, but it was the greatest thing I'd ever seen until I woke up. Perhaps it had a little something to do with my brain picking up on unfinished thoughts about the rather boring 22 minute promo trailer and going on what I know about the second season, which is nothing. Which is also coincidentally all we need to know right now as it will basically sell itself.....hmmmmmmmm......

2007-08-11, 09:05	Link #284
BladeStone Member Join Date: Jul 2007	I'm sure this might have been discussed, but which novels was the first season based on, and which novels will the second probably be based on?

2007-08-11, 22:09	Link #288
mugener Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	if haruhi 2 is really on winter like what moonphase said (which split clannad in two), I don't konw if this is an good decision. Since we know that Japan anime's "hot" season is spring and fall, winter seems a bit "cold" for an popular anime like haruhi.

2007-08-12, 19:18	Link #291
mcruz1014 Eye Have You Join Date: Jul 2007	I don't think any season with Haruhi showing would be "cold" necessarily

2007-08-14, 08:30	Link #292
~~kevin13~~ Disabled By Request Join Date: May 2007	Awesome, just recently finished watching the first season, and now I find out there is a second! Lets just hope it doesn't start of as being licensed and is then only released as Dubbs 2years later or something.

2007-08-16, 17:36	Link #295
Raykun Protect my imouto ~ Join Date: Jul 2007	can't wait till air date been hooked to dis show 2 days ago wen parents bought me the first volume

2007-08-23, 08:50	Link #297
adelsmud Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Just out of interest, is it OK to expect a season 3?

2007-08-23, 14:01	Link #298
ch0c0b0fr34k Member Join Date: Aug 2007	Hell, it's oK to expect season 4,5, and 6. At least in my super-optimistic view xD. As long as fanbase stays strong, continuation of the previous season will too.