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View Poll Results: Clannad - Episode 09 Rating
Perfect 10 186 70.99%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 42 16.03%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 19 7.25%
7 out of 10 : Good 6 2.29%
6 out of 10 : Average 3 1.15%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 0.76%
4 out of 10 : Poor 4 1.53%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2007-11-29, 16:36   Link #21
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Sad, but good. Looks like next will be the Kotomi route?
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Old 2007-11-29, 16:45   Link #22
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I'm sorry... I'm so teary eyed right now...

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There were a few things I didn't like about the episode in terms of plot, but I still have to give it a 10 out of 10.
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Old 2007-11-29, 16:57   Link #23
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Old 2007-11-29, 17:03   Link #24
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Overall, this episode worked far better for me than the ending of the Makoto arc in Kanon. Color me pleasantly surprised with how everything was handled. Really nice, and it'll flow beautifully into the next arc.
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Old 2007-11-29, 17:04   Link #25
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Old 2007-11-29, 17:12   Link #26
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He says Tomoyo, Kotomi, Kyou, and Fuko, but he calls Ryou "Fujibayashi" and Nagisa "Furukawa." Is it just random or is their relevance to this?
In Japan calling someone by their first name is something only done by family members and really, really close friends done during your youngster years. Even when you become really acquainted with someone during your adulthood it is psychologically impossible for the average Japanese to call them by their First name. So when two friends start calling each other by their first friend represent that they have surpassed another of the many facades Japanese society makes its members hide beneath.
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Old 2007-11-29, 17:18   Link #27
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I have a question about something odd I noticed after watching this episode... why is it that Tomoya calls certain people by their first names and others by their last?

He says Tomoyo, Kotomi, Kyou, and Fuko, but he calls Ryou "Fujibayashi" and Nagisa "Furukawa." Is it just random or is their relevance to this?

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Old 2007-11-29, 17:18   Link #28
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Yeah seems like it might end, not sure though, if it does hope it gives us a clue at who's arc is next
I think the next arc is Fujibayashi Sister's/Kyou's, if not, then it's Kotomi's. I'm pretty sure Tomoyo's arc is at episode 14-17 or 14-19. After that, then it'll be Nagisa's arc.

I'm wrong, for sure. I'm saying this in base of Kanon '06.
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Old 2007-11-29, 17:20   Link #29
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I think the next arc is Fujibayashi Sister's/Kyou's, if not, then it's Kotomi's.
The next arc is Kotomi's.
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Aa, ProtoMan beat me to it. However we both share different explanations so oh well. : O
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Old 2007-11-29, 17:27   Link #31
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Old 2007-11-29, 17:45   Link #32
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Old 2007-11-29, 17:48   Link #33
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*Weep*


It's been a long time since a weeped over an anime...... That was powerful.




Next Arc: Finally, KOTOMI-CHAN!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 2007-11-29, 18:55   Link #34
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I have a question about something odd I noticed after watching this episode... why is it that Tomoya calls certain people by their first names and others by their last?

He says Tomoyo, Kotomi, Kyou, and Fuko, but he calls Ryou "Fujibayashi" and Nagisa "Furukawa." Is it just random or is their relevance to this?
Apart from the cultural factor ProtoMan, it is also because that Tomoya know some of them better--Kyou for example. It was not told in the anime, but actually they knew each other from the 2nd year of high school already. It's also a way to distinguish between the twins.
And for Fuko's case, it's because Tomoya treats her as a lower class man, "Kohai" in Japanese. It is all right to call those of lower ranking than yours by their first name, even though not very common.
And for Kotomi's case...he is forced to, and she won't even respond with the "-chan" ending...

Watched the RAW of it, quite teary, but I didn't burst out in tears like when I played the game. There are sometimes where words speaks better than pictures and sounds I guess...

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Old 2007-11-29, 19:38   Link #35
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Seriously, this arc got a dramatic, yet satisfying end.

About Tomoya calling Ryou 'Fujibayashi', also as a form of respect, since Ryou is his class rep.

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Old 2007-11-29, 20:32   Link #36
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And for Kotomi's case...he is forced to, and she won't even respond with the "-chan" ending...
No no no, it's she won't even respond without the -chan ending lol. Is this relevant? Somewhat yes, but that's all I'll say. (Note: the anime already has a basis since it's clearly displayed).

And uh I don't think Tomoya would call Ryou by name if she weren't class president. I really don't think so. Don't forget how similar Tomoyo and Kyou are to Tomoya, so the increased familiarity is easier to implement (I think the word was tomboyish, and there were multiple instances of such hinting).

Although I thought the timing of Fuuko's arc was still weird, the advantages are clear (though if it were second to last, running right into Nagisa's route wouldn't be unusual, and that's the only oddity since Nagisa's relevance was high, the momentum would be good.) On the other hand, reducing usage of Fuuko works too since her route emphasis was great, and her comedy resources more or less were all used up (oh except for *that* one, but the main idea more or less is the same.). Since the ending execution ran well, as well as the circumstances, you have slight ambiguity in mystery, but a happy ending, and a resolution that does not generate a loss of momentum.

And of course Kotomi's route is independent of Fuuko's (and even if that weren't the case, the way the anime is right now already will not have Fuuko's presence since the arc just ended). Though it's kind of funny because of the 0 correlation, it's like whoah, Kotomi's air time like quadrupled (seriously, in episode 10 it probably will easily exceed her total air time.). Thank goodness Kotomi's route is next. If she was used later like after Tomoyo or Kyou's route, then the amount of buildup in her character would be horrid (and right now it is horrid, so the company should go into her route to counterbalance that. Also, it will make more sense as the series continues due to the circumstances. Heck the preview already indirectly states the advantages of running her route first. The conditions that are preset should be identifyable.).

Nagisa incorporation works, but I guess it was an additive that Kyoani wanted to make her emphasized and to make her own route more sufficient to prevent isolated circumstances where it's only male lead and focus girl.

Great conclusion, now I will wait another week to enjoy my favourite route. I just hope they input *that* and *that* and *that*. If Kyoani doesn't go all out in Kotomi's route, her character would be far too shorthanded (and yes, relative to other characters currently, Kotomi is extremely shorthanded, and her stereotypical character format doesn't make her a great side character like Kyou who is versatile in any sort of scene, thus using her route to make her the focus character and not have to use her in later routes is a good timing choice.). Oh and of course, the conditions. I hope they use 3, not 4 episodes (1 on route running, 2 on continuation + issue impending, 3 being the resolution). 4 episodes would be suicide in terms of route balance unless they're definitely truncating something.

Unfortunately, because of how Fuuko's route works and the timing of it, the linearity and the conclusion were much more straightforward (and you can assume the other routes don't function like Fuuko's by default). Great execution, let's hope they can keep it up (uh that's also why I would have wanted Fuuko's route second last, because the momentum into Nagisa's route would net better conclusiveness since the route doesn't really use any other main girl characters anyway.)

I'll rate the episode after I see the subbed, though it looks good in terms of conclusiveness and impact.

EDIT: Wahahaha. Good eye, pagan.

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Old 2007-11-29, 20:33   Link #37
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Great........the first ANA is great........

I will still waiting for that time's ANA.......the memory on the train.......

Ryou is name,and Fujibayashi is family name.
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Old 2007-11-29, 20:35   Link #38
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No no no, it's she won't even respond without the -chan ending lol. Is this relevant? Somewhat yes, but that's all I'll say. (Note: the anime already has a basis since it's clearly displayed).

And uh I don't think Tomoya would call Ryou by name if she weren't class president. I really don't think so. Don't forget how similar Tomoyo and Kyou are to Tomoya, so the increased familiarity is easier to implement (I think the word was tomboyish, and there were multiple instances of such hinting).

Although I thought the timing of Fuuko's arc was still weird, the advantages are clear (though if it were second to last, running right into Nagisa's route wouldn't be unusual, and that's the only oddity since Nagisa's relevance was high, the momentum would be good.) On the other hand, reducing usage of Fuuko works too since her route emphasis was great, and her comedy resources more or less were all used up (oh except for *that* one, but the main idea more or less is the same.). Since the ending execution ran well, as well as the circumstances, you have slight ambiguity in mystery, but a happy ending, and a resolution that does not generate a loss of momentum.

And of course Kotomi's route is independent of Fuuko's (and even if that weren't the case, the way the anime is right now already will not have Fuuko's presence since the arc just ended). Though it's kind of funny because of the 0 correlation, it's like whoah, Kotomi's air time like quadrupled (seriously, in episode 10 it probably will easily exceed her total air time.). Thank goodness Kotomi's route is next. If she was used later like after Tomoyo or Kyou's route, then the amount of buildup in her character would be horrid (and right now it is horrid, so the company should go into her route to counterbalance that. Also, it will make more sense as the series continues due to the circumstances. Heck the preview already indirectly states the advantages of running her route first. The conditions that are preset should be identifyable.).

Nagisa incorporation works, but I guess it was an additive that Kyoani wanted to make her emphasized and to make her own route more sufficient to prevent isolated circumstances where it's only male lead and focus girl.

Great conclusion, now I will wait another week to enjoy my favourite route. I just hope they input *that* and *that* and *that*. If Kyoani doesn't go all out in Kotomi's route, her character would be far too shorthanded (and yes, relative to other characters currently, Kotomi is extremely shorthanded, and her stereotypical character format doesn't make her a great side character like Kyou who is versatile in any sort of scene, thus using her route to make her the focus character and not have to use her in later routes is a good timing choice.). Oh and of course, the conditions. I hope they use 3, not 4 episodes (1 on route running, 2 on continuation + issue impending, 3 being the resolution). 4 episodes would be suicide in terms of route balance unless they're definitely truncating something.

Unfortunately, because of how Fuuko's route works and the timing of it, the linearity and the conclusion were much more straightforward (and you can assume the other routes don't function like Fuuko's by default). Great execution, let's hope they can keep it up (uh that's also why I would have wanted Fuuko's route second last, because the momentum into Nagisa's route would net better conclusiveness since the route doesn't really use any other main girl characters anyway.)

I'll rate the episode after I see the subbed, though it looks good in terms of conclusiveness and impact.
Your extreme vagueness about Kotomi's route has peaked my curiosity. Can you PM me spoilers please? :X
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Old 2007-11-29, 20:41   Link #39
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Stupid Clannad music, always, ALWAYS gets to me.

I stopped watching Clannad a few episodes back, but popped back for this episode to see how they would handle one of my favorite scenes from the game. I am surprised I STILL got choked up when ANA started playing... well done, well done.
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Old 2007-11-29, 22:54   Link #40
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Once, twice, three times... kind of throws you off your rocker if you have to prepare yourself for Fuuko's departure... repeatedly. Looking forward to the last ep now.
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