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the.Merines · 2007-04-06, 13:33

I reeaallly enjoyed the first episode once I got past the character designs, which didn't really take that long. I guess I haven't watched any mech series since Zegapain, and the dry-spell is over.

I was a bit confused by the (pardon the term) Evangelion-ish pilot feedback and ability to use/reassemble a part of an enemy's Gigantic.

Sonhex · 2007-04-06, 15:28

Yep, first episode was a good one. But yes the characters take some getting used to. In some scenes they are just plain disturbing. But they're far from badly animated; it was really well done in some scenes. I didn't have any major gripes with the CG mecha, and the battle was exciting and so was the glimpses of the other mechas (and their locations). I'm personally looking forward to see Cynthia and Daniel, the two UK pilots

The soundtrack was awesome too - epic and dramatic. In a couple of places it really helped to stir the emotions in the build up to the sense of impending battle.

Very pleased with how this turned out. Looking forward to more.

wao · 2007-04-06, 23:04

I'm glad I'm not the only one who way prefers Koji Yabuno's designs to Kadonosono's original ones in the ED.

Spoiler for rant rant rant:

OK, but it's all just my personal taste anyway

You can ignore me now.

aardvark · 2007-04-06, 23:26

Megumi Kadonosono did draw the ED herself actually. So I definitely agree with your point. The characters in the episode itself show so much more emotion than even the original designers animated rendition of them in the ED...

As far as Gotoh, his character designs aside, he's definitely improved as a director at least judging from the first ep of this. Considering he was the one part of this show that made me not look too much forward to it, I was pleasantly surprised. I liked this so much more than I thought I would, so hopefully the rest doesn't let me down

Sonhex · 2007-04-07, 04:56

I certainly prefer the episode designs to the ED. By far. They may look peculiar in some shots, but they do have a great deal of charm. I'm pretty certain most people will run from this the first time they see that close up of Mana in the shrine.

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Originally Posted by the.Merines

... I was a bit confused by the (pardon the term) Evangelion-ish pilot feedback and ability to use/reassemble a part of an enemy's Gigantic.

You know I thought for a moment that Susano-o was going to remain a hybrid and that throughout the story it would lose its own parts and gain a piece from each of the other robots it defeats. I was imagining that at the end Susano-o would be some big colourful patchwork of seized parts - the ultimate GF, with each part representing the designer etc... Alas not.

the.Merines · 2007-04-07, 07:39

^ I think that's the entire basis of Bandai's investment.

Dandruff · 2007-04-11, 12:34

Question, what was the name of the Chinese mecha?

Zappster · 2007-04-11, 13:25

It's Xuan Wu Shen #3 apparently.

Grv · 2007-04-11, 20:49

Nevermind ;x

SuperAsuradaGundam · 2007-04-11, 22:10

Just saw the second episode.

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Sonhex · 2007-04-13, 15:12

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Originally Posted by SuperAsuradaGundam

Just saw the second episode.

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Yep, I guess I spoke too soon about Susano-o's abilities. Anyway I think it's a fantastic ability to absorb enemies parts and then use that as an advantage, especially with controlling their weapons. The Chinese mecha didn't seem to have this feature, so I wonder if other mecha do or have other types of features that Susano-o hasn't. Either way it makes for a much more exciting situation, with lots of tactical possibilities as the Wisest World War progresses.

Again animation, CG and especially music (I'm loving this soundtrack!) are top notch and I'm really excited by the way the story is developing. In particular the fleshing out of the enemy pilots: giving them personalities, ambitions, political and emotional loyalties really goes a long way to making this feel like more than an shallow mecha slugfest or a showcase for shiny CG *cough* Reideen *cough*.

And, um, I do hope Mana does more in this show than just get injured and blush at Shingo all the time.

**monir** · 2007-04-13, 22:39

Well, well.. when was the time Lunar has subbed a genuine mecha series? I suppose I've the perfect excuse to check this show out after all.

the.Merines · 2007-04-13, 23:19

Wai! I thinking only a couple days ago what Lunar would be working on... sola and GFormula! Excellent. Now I won't be guessing 70% of the dialogue. XD

tktc · 2007-04-14, 02:03

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Originally Posted by Dandruff

Question, what was the name of the Chinese mecha?

a little bit FYI regarding the astrological reference on the mecha's name "玄武柛"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Tortoise

sirtao · 2007-04-14, 09:30

all the Gigantic are named after Gods- by the way I think it's XuanWu Sheng

ZODDGUTS · 2007-04-14, 17:18

Saw the first episode it was decent it had good animation. I thought the whole explanation of the beginning of the War was rather stupid sounds like the U.N. did it for the heck of it rather weak excuse. The character designs are plain disurbing they look like Aliens or something the eyes... THE EYES!!!

I prefer the ending credits character designs easily over the Alien looking character designs that they used during the episode.

I'll probably keep watching this series the first episode was just good enough for me to keep checking it out.

jedinat · 2007-04-14, 17:32

I like the character designs, lol. They look similar to the ones in Kamichu!
Saw the first episode last night, and it looks to have some promise.
The mecha battles look like they might be cool (loved the casual way in which it put on the enemy mech's arm

)

ZODDGUTS · 2007-04-14, 17:46

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Originally Posted by jedinat

I like the character designs, lol. They look similar to the ones in Kamichu!
Saw the first episode last night, and it looks to have some promise.
The mecha battles look like they might be cool (loved the casual way in which it put on the enemy mech's arm

)

The character designs from Kamichu looked better they don't look like Aliens:

Spoiler:

Vs

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Notice that when they blush they don't look odd here and they don't look weird looking either. >_<

This looked better to me in the ending credits:

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Whatever I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder going on here but damn they looked weird as hell.

jedinat · 2007-04-14, 17:59

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Originally Posted by ZODDGUTS

The character designs from Kamichu looked better they don't look like Aliens:

...

Notice that when they blush they don't look odd here. >_<

It depends on which episode you're watching

I do admit the main kid's eyes are pretty freaky though

ZODDGUTS · 2007-04-14, 18:03

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Originally Posted by jedinat

It depends on which episode you're watching

I do admit the main kid's eyes are pretty freaky though

Yes they do blush like that but they don't look weird in Kamichu! they looked cute. But when they do that in Gigantic Formula they look odd..

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2007-04-06, 13:33	Link #41
the.Merines Seeker of Power Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ΔHidden Forbidden Holy Ground Age: 39	I reeaallly enjoyed the first episode once I got past the character designs, which didn't really take that long. I guess I haven't watched any mech series since Zegapain, and the dry-spell is over. I was a bit confused by the (pardon the term) Evangelion-ish pilot feedback and ability to use/reassemble a part of an enemy's Gigantic. __________________ I am bound to pay the debt I owe.

2007-04-06, 23:04	Link #43
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	I'm glad I'm not the only one who way prefers Koji Yabuno's designs to Kadonosono's original ones in the ED. Spoiler for rant rant rant: I probably will piss off a lot of people if I say this but I think the key staff and main animators behind Kamichu - and that includes Koji Yabuno - are way more talented than Keiji Gotoh or Megumi Kadonosono. Their designs are heavy on the "pretty", "shiny" and "detail" but are not at all tailored for good animation without having to slam down a huge budget to get all the freaking hair and eye highlights in (cos why, without those people start complaining ) Whereas I tend to prefer the pared-down but firmly-drawn Yabuno designs that do not have to rely on superficial things like that; they have much more charm to me. The little details and the anatomy and the type of lines, the incorporation of some realistic details and such prove to me that the drawings are done by people who seem to know how to draw somewhat - or well, at least better than (IMO) Kadonosono. Or whoever drew the ED. Or if they were the same people then it just proves my "point" further that the Yabuno designs are better, you can draw them decently enough if you know how to draw whereas to get Kadonosono/Gotoh's designs right you need to be good at "anime-style" drawing. Which should not be the case for really good designs but then again I'm probably being hypocritical here since I do like some shows which have such terribly anime-style drawings... OK, but it's all just my personal taste anyway You can ignore me now. __________________ Thanks for the fish

2007-04-07, 07:39	Link #46
the.Merines Seeker of Power Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ΔHidden Forbidden Holy Ground Age: 39	^ I think that's the entire basis of Bandai's investment. __________________ I am bound to pay the debt I owe.

2007-04-11, 20:49	Link #49
Grv 宜しく Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 40	Nevermind ;x __________________ Yoroshiku Fansubs: Website \| Twitter \| IRC Last edited by Grv; 2007-04-11 at 21:02.

2007-04-11, 22:10	Link #50
SuperAsuradaGundam Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Philadelphia, Pa	Just saw the second episode. Spoiler: We get a good listen to the opening, which I thought was decent. Also, we get some background info on the pilots of the enemy mech, who seemed to be a married couple, although I'm not sure since I don't know Japanese. Also, we might get to know more about them since they were taken alive after they were defeated and they were showned in the episode 3 preview. It is kinda nice to see that the enemy pilots are nothing crazy of being evil (for now), and it seems like that Japan's mech has a unique ability of using an enemy's weapon by changing one of its parts to be compatable with the weapon such as the arm that it absorbed in the first episode. This is really turning out to be an interesting mech series

2007-04-06, 15:28	Link #42
Sonhex Not dead. Yet. Graphic Designer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: UK	Yep, first episode was a good one. But yes the characters take some getting used to. In some scenes they are just plain disturbing. But they're far from badly animated; it was really well done in some scenes. I didn't have any major gripes with the CG mecha, and the battle was exciting and so was the glimpses of the other mechas (and their locations). I'm personally looking forward to see Cynthia and Daniel, the two UK pilots The soundtrack was awesome too - epic and dramatic. In a couple of places it really helped to stir the emotions in the build up to the sense of impending battle. Very pleased with how this turned out. Looking forward to more.

2007-04-06, 23:26	Link #44
aardvark Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: United States Age: 39	Megumi Kadonosono did draw the ED herself actually. So I definitely agree with your point. The characters in the episode itself show so much more emotion than even the original designers animated rendition of them in the ED... As far as Gotoh, his character designs aside, he's definitely improved as a director at least judging from the first ep of this. Considering he was the one part of this show that made me not look too much forward to it, I was pleasantly surprised. I liked this so much more than I thought I would, so hopefully the rest doesn't let me down

2007-04-11, 12:34	Link #47
Dandruff Flakey Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Arizona	Question, what was the name of the Chinese mecha?

2007-04-11, 13:25	Link #48
Zappster Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	It's Xuan Wu Shen #3 apparently.

2007-04-13, 23:19	Link #53
the.Merines Seeker of Power Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: ΔHidden Forbidden Holy Ground Age: 39	Wai! I thinking only a couple days ago what Lunar would be working on... sola and GFormula! Excellent. Now I won't be guessing 70% of the dialogue. XD __________________ I am bound to pay the debt I owe.

2007-04-14, 09:30	Link #55
sirtao Member Join Date: Oct 2006	all the Gigantic are named after Gods- by the way I think it's XuanWu Sheng

2007-04-14, 17:18	Link #56
ZODDGUTS Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005	Saw the first episode it was decent it had good animation. I thought the whole explanation of the beginning of the War was rather stupid sounds like the U.N. did it for the heck of it rather weak excuse. The character designs are plain disurbing they look like Aliens or something the eyes... THE EYES!!! I prefer the ending credits character designs easily over the Alien looking character designs that they used during the episode. I'll probably keep watching this series the first episode was just good enough for me to keep checking it out.

2007-04-14, 17:32	Link #57
jedinat Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 38	I like the character designs, lol. They look similar to the ones in Kamichu! Saw the first episode last night, and it looks to have some promise. The mecha battles look like they might be cool (loved the casual way in which it put on the enemy mech's arm )