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GDB · 2017-04-27, 14:01

I'm now wondering if the end game is to actually make Fitz into a tragic fallen villain. If he emerges from the framework with Aida, it would basically mean his real body is dead and the HYDRA Fitz is the "new, real" Fitz.

So, in addition to losing Mace, they'd be down 2 members. They also just reintroduced 2 formerly fallen teammates. Could they be removing Mace and Fitz in order to reintroduce Tripp and a genuinely good Ward? Would give more love drama with Daisy being unsure if she should open up to reWard or not, and him having to basically learn about her again. Would also allow for more Simmons x Tripp moments, because even if you don't ship them they have amazing chemistry together.

Of course, this also kind of assumes there'd be a 5th season. Or that they'd at least be willing to set up a tease for a 5th season that won't happen.

quigonkenny · 2017-04-27, 19:27

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Originally Posted by GDB

I'm now wondering if the end game is to actually make Fitz into a tragic fallen villain. If he emerges from the framework with Aida, it would basically mean his real body is dead and the HYDRA Fitz is the "new, real" Fitz.

So, in addition to losing Mace, they'd be down 2 members. They also just reintroduced 2 formerly fallen teammates. Could they be removing Mace and Fitz in order to reintroduce Tripp and a genuinely good Ward? Would give more love drama with Daisy being unsure if she should open up to reWard or not, and him having to basically learn about her again. Would also allow for more Simmons x Tripp moments, because even if you don't ship them they have amazing chemistry together.

Of course, this also kind of assumes there'd be a 5th season. Or that they'd at least be willing to set up a tease for a 5th season that won't happen.

Maybe they're setting up a Good Fitz vs Bad Fitz storyline. Good Fitz is saved along with everyone else when they defeat Aida and shut down the Framework, but Bad Fitz manages to still be birthed from the Framework before it's completely shut down (obligatory season ending teaser), setting up next season's arc, where he's the big bad and is trying to restart the Framework and bring back Aida and his father. Meanwhile, not only is everyone distrustful of Good Fitz because of what he did while under Aida's spell, but he's not so sure of himself, either. Seems like a very Whedonesque storyline to me...

SidVicious · 2017-05-10, 08:49

Yandere Aida.

FlareKnight · 2017-05-10, 11:44

This was pretty fun. A lot of people dealing with the aftermath of what happened, but moving the story along relatively quickly. No time for filler, get people up to speed in a hurry. I kind of hope the end of this season doesn't end with a dramatic Fitz and Simmons moment, these two need time to process. I mean Fitz murdered and tortured people for years in that framework, or at least has the memories of doing that. Simmons killed his father. He basically kneecapped her. In the end they need time to deal with all that.

Before going into the Framework I thought Fitz was stupidly being hard on himself for his part in that thing existing. Now he can severely blame himself. What he did in there was horrible. Self-blame is realistic now. But also he managed to trigger someone who didn't even know what rage or jealousy was. Good job Fitz. Seriously play up to her emotions until you can afford to call the last 2 Avengers that are working

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And yeah, thank goodness for Ghost Rider. Now he can get in there and clean up the mess everyone else made. Congrats Aida on getting emotions and everything. Now you probably have a soul that Ghost Rider can send to hell

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Yandere Aida.

Best Aida

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aohige · 2017-05-10, 14:45

Well, nice knowing ya Aida, but the GHOST RIDER is back, one of the most powerful superhero in all of MCU, and he's coming for your newly found soul!

MrTerrorist · 2017-05-12, 01:09

The irony that Aida wanted to become a real human but can't deal with human emotions like rejection and jealousy.

FlareKnight · 2017-05-17, 02:22

I honestly love how even Aida early on in this episode is basically "oh Jesus it's Ghost Rider, Run for it!"

MrTerrorist · 2017-05-17, 10:12

So Team Coulson are now in space....
So possible Guardians of the Galaxy cameos?

Wandering Soul · 2017-05-17, 13:36

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I honestly love how even Aida early on in this episode is basically "oh Jesus it's Ghost Rider, Run for it!"

Yeah, all those Inhuman powers and she was still left with no better plan than to run.

Next season: Marvel Agents of S.W.O.R.D.?

MrTerrorist · 2017-09-27, 10:11

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Season 5 Teaser Poster

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MrTerrorist · 2017-11-11, 05:54

Yes! Can't wait.

Twi · 2017-11-11, 08:01

Immediately interested.

GDB · 2017-11-11, 09:17

I want to go back to covert Spy SHIELD that cleans up the threats too dangerous for normal police but too insignificant for Spidey/Avengers. Even the first half of season 4, which was on the low end of that spectrum, was amazing.

If I wanted to watch Ridley Scott, I'd watch that. While this still looks interesting enough to spend an hour a week on, I don't have high hopes for a season 6 happening with the way it's currently presented.

MrTerrorist · 2017-11-26, 02:07

Season 5 Premiere Special Preview

YouTube

https://youtu.be/NDBwsMIXlMk

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Shinji103 · 2017-11-26, 12:00

Oh boy. They’re not just just in space, they’re in the future, aren’t they?

Twi · 2017-12-01, 21:05

*Sees new episode Part 1*
Hmm... Thanos is a dick. Guess we know how Infinity War ends.

*Sees new episode Part 2*
I can't believe that Daisy did that on her own. This is the 100 and hunger games rolled into one isn't?

MrTerrorist · 2017-12-04, 12:47

Spoiler for S5 EP01 and EP02:

MrTerrorist · 2017-12-09, 12:39

Spoiler for S5 EP03:

AntonKutovoi · 2017-12-09, 13:06

I kinda like Kasius as villian. While he's not as great as Ward/Hive or Aida (at least so far), he somewhat reminds me Joaquin Phoenix' Commodus from Gladiator.

Twi · 2017-12-09, 21:00

Poor Jemma. She helped only for the girl to end up being sold as a living weapon, not an ambassador.

And while Daisy was reckless, Zeke is a moron. Who openly states they're playing a Long game in front of the person you're playing it on?

2017-05-10, 08:49	Link #563
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2017-05-10, 14:45	Link #565
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	Well, nice knowing ya Aida, but the GHOST RIDER is back, one of the most powerful superhero in all of MCU, and he's coming for your newly found soul! __________________

2017-05-12, 01:09	Link #566
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	The irony that Aida wanted to become a real human but can't deal with human emotions like rejection and jealousy. __________________

2017-05-17, 02:22	Link #567
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	I honestly love how even Aida early on in this episode is basically "oh Jesus it's Ghost Rider, Run for it!" __________________ Anime-Evo

2017-05-17, 10:12	Link #568
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	So Team Coulson are now in space.... So possible Guardians of the Galaxy cameos? __________________

2017-04-27, 14:01	Link #561
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	I'm now wondering if the end game is to actually make Fitz into a tragic fallen villain. If he emerges from the framework with Aida, it would basically mean his real body is dead and the HYDRA Fitz is the "new, real" Fitz. So, in addition to losing Mace, they'd be down 2 members. They also just reintroduced 2 formerly fallen teammates. Could they be removing Mace and Fitz in order to reintroduce Tripp and a genuinely good Ward? Would give more love drama with Daisy being unsure if she should open up to reWard or not, and him having to basically learn about her again. Would also allow for more Simmons x Tripp moments, because even if you don't ship them they have amazing chemistry together. Of course, this also kind of assumes there'd be a 5th season. Or that they'd at least be willing to set up a tease for a 5th season that won't happen.

2017-09-27, 10:11	Link #570
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Images Season 5 Teaser Poster Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________

2017-11-11, 05:54	Link #571
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	<p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/C7n0L2w4a1A">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> Yes! Can't wait. __________________

2017-11-11, 08:01	Link #572
Twi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Immediately interested. __________________

2017-11-11, 09:17	Link #573
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	I want to go back to covert Spy SHIELD that cleans up the threats too dangerous for normal police but too insignificant for Spidey/Avengers. Even the first half of season 4, which was on the low end of that spectrum, was amazing. If I wanted to watch Ridley Scott, I'd watch that. While this still looks interesting enough to spend an hour a week on, I don't have high hopes for a season 6 happening with the way it's currently presented.

2017-11-26, 02:07	Link #574
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Season 5 Premiere Special Preview YouTube https://youtu.be/NDBwsMIXlMk Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________

2017-11-26, 12:00	Link #575
Shinji103 Crazy Devout Fanboy Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 1st Ra Cailum-class battleship Ra Cailum, port-side officer's bunks	Oh boy. They’re not just just in space, they’re in the future, aren’t they? __________________

2017-12-01, 21:05	Link #576
Twi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Sees new episode Part 1 Hmm... Thanos is a dick. Guess we know how Infinity War ends. Sees new episode Part 2 I can't believe that Daisy did that on her own. This is the 100 and hunger games rolled into one isn't? __________________ Last edited by Twi; 2017-12-01 at 22:02.

2017-12-04, 12:47	Link #577
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Spoiler for S5 EP01 and EP02: So the show has a good excuse why Coulson and the gang won't appear in Infinity Wars: they're in a bad future where Thanos destroyed Earth and the Kree enslaved humanity(Yes, Deke said Daisy destroyed Earth but then again he doesn't have the full history of Earth and is just making assumptions). Also, Fitz's actor was busy working on a movie hence why Fitz doesn't appear in the season premiere. __________________

2017-12-09, 12:39	Link #578
MrTerrorist Takao Tsundere Cruiser Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Classified	Spoiler for S5 EP03: You know, i kinda hate the humans of the future since they're cynical, have no guts, are cowards and won't hesitate to sell you out(i'm looking at you Deke.). I can't wait for all of those arrogant Kree and human sellouts get their assess kicked. __________________

2017-12-09, 13:06	Link #579
AntonKutovoi Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Vladimir, Russia Age: 30	I kinda like Kasius as villian. While he's not as great as Ward/Hive or Aida (at least so far), he somewhat reminds me Joaquin Phoenix' Commodus from Gladiator.

2017-12-09, 21:00	Link #580
Twi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Poor Jemma. She helped only for the girl to end up being sold as a living weapon, not an ambassador. And while Daisy was reckless, Zeke is a moron. Who openly states they're playing a Long game in front of the person you're playing it on? __________________