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mastermind3342 · 2018-07-12, 09:14

From this sites
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_(genre)
I got this...

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Notable harem leads Edit
Some examples of protagonists range from a special agent like Yuuji from Grisaia, a charismatic pervert like Issei Hyoudou from High School DxD, an army leader like Hakuoro from Utawarerumono, a teaser like Arata from Trinity Seven, a moralist like Touma from Index, a shy guy like Rito from To Love-Ru, a princess warrior like Yona from Akatsuki no Yona, an easy going zombie like Ayumu from Kore wa Zombie, a dense but caring guy like Raku from Nisekoi, a shameless playboy like Akatsuki from Hagure Yuusha, a comical tsukkomi like Haruhi from Ouran Club or Tsuda from Seitokai Yakuindomo, a great Demon King like Arawn from Tears to Tiara, the otaku expert like Tomoya from Saekano, a condescending swordsman like Ayato from Asterisk, a magician teacher like Negi from Negima or a crazy teacher like Nozomu from SZS, and a tragic hero like Kotarou from Rewrite.

I am wondering what kind of mc sugar is... and he not even exist here..?

wuhugm · 2018-07-12, 11:18

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Originally Posted by mastermind3342

From this sites
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harem_(genre)
I got this...

I am wondering what kind of mc sugar is... and he not even exist here..?

Such bullshit entry

Edit that and add these two :

1. Bland, average in any way, hetare but kind MC that makes you wonder why the harem or any girl in that regard even fell in love with him in the first place
2. All-Powerful Hypocrite in Isekai (Sugar and many Isekai MC)

GreyZone · 2018-07-12, 20:23

^Why are you calling Satou a hypocrite though? Hypocrite (not neccessarily dictionary definition, but rather common use) refers to people who either don't "meet their own standards" or are pretentious people who convinced themselves of always having the moral highground no matter what they do.

I don't see any of these applying to Satou though. He lacks common sense and is in subconscious denial about a few matters. He seems to appear quite aloof sometimes as well due to the incredible power he possesses. But none of these make him a "hypocrite".

NAJ P. Jackson · 2018-07-12, 21:01

He just hates Satou because he won't go around attacking the girls close to him.

Also I think he calls Satou hypocrite because he says he loves Aze but he still go to Oneesan establishment and have snusnu with them.

GreyZone · 2018-07-12, 21:10

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Originally Posted by NAJ P. Jackson

He just hates Satou because he won't go around attacking the girls close to him.

Also I think he calls Satou hypocrite because he says he loves Aze but he still go to Oneesan establishment and have snusnu with them.

I see. But it would only be hypocritical if he contradicted his own beliefs or if he made an absurd statement (or even just monologue) about how "righteous" doing that is, none of which happened.

wuhugm · 2018-07-12, 23:24

I called him hypocrite coz he said he doesn't want nobility yet he's a high noble now

If he truly wants to quit, he could quit anytime, but he doesn't, hypocrite

mastermind3342 · 2018-07-13, 00:03

Well in my personal opinion...
Hetare, wimpy, and unstable persona( satou, nanashi, kuro) is also could be included here

Well if we say the basic nature of politician is hypocite...and satou more or less politician ( noble) then maybe he is...
Oh and while in public its look like he save the world for the sake of saving it, but we know in his own monologue.. he save it for the sake of securing food ,touring attraction place, ensuring the safety of his girl
, we not realize abot his hypocrisy because the story is narated from his pov...

NAJ P. Jackson · 2018-07-13, 00:04

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

I called him hypocrite coz he said he doesn't want nobility yet he's a high noble now

If he truly wants to quit, he could quit anytime, but he doesn't, hypocrite

He only said that at the beginning when he first started out. Things happen and he adapted. The only reason he took the Noble title was for Earl Muno's sake which he greatly respects.

wuhugm · 2018-07-13, 01:33

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Originally Posted by NAJ P. Jackson

He only said that at the beginning when he first started out. Things happen and he adapted. The only reason he took the Noble title was for Earl Muno's sake which he greatly respects.

Yeah, right, he rejected his daughter

And yet just let the engagements with princess and shit continue despite not loving them all the same
You want to marry them or not?
Oh, you just gonna adapt later, huh?

mastermind3342 · 2018-07-13, 02:20

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Originally Posted by NAJ P. Jackson

He only said that at the beginning when he first started out. Things happen and he adapted. The only reason he took the Noble title was for Earl Muno's sake which he greatly respects.

i am now wondering if arisa aware of this... and try to take advantage of this in her attempt to capture sugar like pokemon he is?

wuhugm · 2018-07-13, 06:06

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Originally Posted by mastermind3342

we not realize abot his hypocrisy because the story is narated from his pov...

I think you're right, mastermind3342

linhlopbaya · 2018-07-17, 01:45

well, I guess definition of hypocrisy also varies depends on cultures. Personally I think it is more like he adapted. I mean,
his idea of the Noble title change pretty much, following his growth of power and knowledge. Now he knew many different top secrets of that world. Being ignorant is no longer a choice. Sure he is sly, but he had never think of himself as justice. He is very pragmatic, all he did are for himself and his family. He always finding neutral ways to deal with problems. Just that the tendency of half-baked efforts to hide his secrets really annoying me.

wuhugm · 2018-07-17, 02:10

^I never see he made a mistake and then learned from that mistake though

So I don't see this "growth" people are talking about

linhlopbaya · 2018-07-17, 05:55

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

^I never see he made a mistake and then learned from that mistake though

So I don't see this "growth" people are talking about

Growth of knowledge and power only. He is an adult, no point in growing personality. That's why in some aspects he is an asshole.

whiteshadow · 2018-07-17, 06:18

Could you tell me how far his relationship with Zena progress, does she eventually travel with him? Does he know she loves him, does she even know she has feeling for him?

wuhugm · 2018-07-17, 06:25

^Yes, Takagi-san
Now Zena is a "fiancee"
Though Sugar is trying to escape from that again

^^
Power...
He's strongest in the beginning (never lost to anyone) and strongest in the end (never lost to anyone)

Knowledge... Sure... He's no longer ignorant, but still reluctant
He's reluctant in the beginning and reluctant in the end

The Green One · 2018-07-17, 11:47

So....you guys are annoyed because he isn't shacking up with *insertpreferredgirlnamehere* when you want him to be regardless of what his character wants?

Alright then........

wuhugm · 2018-07-17, 11:59

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Originally Posted by The Green One

So....you guys are annoyed because he isn't shacking up with *insertpreferredgirlnamehere* when you want him to be regardless of what his character wants?

Alright then........

Get outside of your perverted mind

The Green One · 2018-07-17, 17:09

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

Get outside of your perverted mind

You are the last person I want to hear that from.

Alisa~Chan~ · 2018-07-17, 19:34

That's right~ it just feels so wrong when you say things like that wuhugm~! Aren't you like~ the overlord of perverts~?

2018-07-12, 20:23	Link #8623
GreyZone "Senior" "Member" Join Date: Jan 2012	^Why are you calling Satou a hypocrite though? Hypocrite (not neccessarily dictionary definition, but rather common use) refers to people who either don't "meet their own standards" or are pretentious people who convinced themselves of always having the moral highground no matter what they do. I don't see any of these applying to Satou though. He lacks common sense and is in subconscious denial about a few matters. He seems to appear quite aloof sometimes as well due to the incredible power he possesses. But none of these make him a "hypocrite". __________________

2018-07-12, 21:01	Link #8624
NAJ P. Jackson Magus Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: In my House	He just hates Satou because he won't go around attacking the girls close to him. Also I think he calls Satou hypocrite because he says he loves Aze but he still go to Oneesan establishment and have snusnu with them. __________________ FGO JP: 149,376,696 IGN: James Starks "Thou art I... And I am thou... Thou hast established a genuine bond... The inner most power of the Awesome Arcana has been set free. We bestow upon thee NAJ P. Jackson, the ultimate form of the Awesome Arcana."

2018-07-12, 23:24	Link #8626
wuhugm Confused Shark Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlantis	I called him hypocrite coz he said he doesn't want nobility yet he's a high noble now If he truly wants to quit, he could quit anytime, but he doesn't, hypocrite __________________ ------------------------------------------ [SPOILER] Manga, Anime, & LN Where The Girl MC Ended Up With Is Not The Main Heroine All My Threads

2018-07-13, 00:03	Link #8627
mastermind3342 LONER TACTICIAN Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: ANYWHERE MY HEART WISH FOR IT	Well in my personal opinion... Hetare, wimpy, and unstable persona( satou, nanashi, kuro) is also could be included here Well if we say the basic nature of politician is hypocite...and satou more or less politician ( noble) then maybe he is... Oh and while in public its look like he save the world for the sake of saving it, but we know in his own monologue.. he save it for the sake of securing food ,touring attraction place, ensuring the safety of his girl , we not realize abot his hypocrisy because the story is narated from his pov... Last edited by mastermind3342; 2018-07-13 at 20:44.

2018-07-17, 02:10	Link #8633
wuhugm Confused Shark Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlantis	^I never see he made a mistake and then learned from that mistake though So I don't see this "growth" people are talking about __________________ ------------------------------------------ [SPOILER] Manga, Anime, & LN Where The Girl MC Ended Up With Is Not The Main Heroine All My Threads

2018-07-17, 01:45	Link #8632
linhlopbaya Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2015	well, I guess definition of hypocrisy also varies depends on cultures. Personally I think it is more like he adapted. I mean, his idea of the Noble title change pretty much, following his growth of power and knowledge. Now he knew many different top secrets of that world. Being ignorant is no longer a choice. Sure he is sly, but he had never think of himself as justice. He is very pragmatic, all he did are for himself and his family. He always finding neutral ways to deal with problems. Just that the tendency of half-baked efforts to hide his secrets really annoying me.

2018-07-17, 06:18	Link #8635
whiteshadow Slowly Dying Join Date: Sep 2014	Could you tell me how far his relationship with Zena progress, does she eventually travel with him? Does he know she loves him, does she even know she has feeling for him?

2018-07-17, 06:25	Link #8636
wuhugm Confused Shark Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Atlantis	^Yes, Takagi-san Now Zena is a "fiancee" Though Sugar is trying to escape from that again ^^ Power... He's strongest in the beginning (never lost to anyone) and strongest in the end (never lost to anyone) Knowledge... Sure... He's no longer ignorant, but still reluctant He's reluctant in the beginning and reluctant in the end __________________ ------------------------------------------ [SPOILER] Manga, Anime, & LN Where The Girl MC Ended Up With Is Not The Main Heroine All My Threads

2018-07-17, 11:47	Link #8637
The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	So....you guys are annoyed because he isn't shacking up with insertpreferredgirlnamehere when you want him to be regardless of what his character wants? Alright then........ __________________

2018-07-17, 19:34	Link #8640
Alisa~Chan~ A Bat Toting FOX~! Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: SECRET!	That's right~ it just feels so wrong when you say things like that wuhugm~! Aren't you like~ the overlord of perverts~?