2018-11-12, 12:18 | Link #5321 | |
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Here's why we know. Vali in DxD L is overall stronger than Issei in Pseudo DxD. Ddraig said that in Volume 24. Crom Cruach has surpassed both Ddraig and Albion when they were in their primes. Albion said that in Volume 24. When Ddraig was summoned, Issei stated that Ddraig was at the same level or even stronger than himself in Pseudo DxD. Ddraig when he was summoned was stronger than Typhon. Although Crom was stated to be stronger than Ddraig and Albion in their primes. And Vali fought on par with Crom Cruach even completely overwhelming him in speed and was so fast that Crom couldn't dodge or block any of Vali's attacks. That's all the info we have. But I would say that Vali would defeat Typhon by being stronger. |
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2018-11-12, 12:37 | Link #5322 | |
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2018-11-12, 17:41 | Link #5323 |
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Typhon equal to Fenrir or slightly stronger. Vidar can kick Fenrir to death before he got his Balance breaker. Unless Vidar kills a nerfed Fenrir I don't see Typhon beating Vali. But DxD scaling been vague the last two volumes.
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2018-11-12, 18:58 | Link #5324 |
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I think Vidar being stronger than fenrir is a special case, i think its more about compayibility than raw power, since Vidar's boots were specially made as countermeasure against fenrir specifically.
Anyway for a small change of topic. When Ddraig is manifested, i wonder if he can use Albion powers like divide and reflect. Spoiler for from vol4 newlife:
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2018-11-12, 19:40 | Link #5325 | |
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2018-11-12, 21:01 | Link #5326 |
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HD class dragons are immune to reduce, and Crom is above HD level, Using Smasher would require vali to stay still, aim, charge and fire all actions that would have him get pummeled by Crom which is why he never used it, Vali had to stay mobile to survive against crom
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2018-11-12, 23:04 | Link #5327 | |
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Ddraig and Albion are heavenly dragons. Crom power is at the level of heavenly dragons but he's still an evildragon. |
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2018-11-12, 23:51 | Link #5328 | |
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2018-11-13, 07:41 | Link #5330 |
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How is it an asspull? In his DxD L form his wyverns are the ones using Half-Dimension and they move on his command, so you mean to say It's impossible for him to charge up power while his wyverns are doing what he commands? You're not making any sense.
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2018-11-15, 00:30 | Link #5335 | |
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Just a thought, shouldn't Issei get a mentor/trainer to help him develop Kinda unfair when compared to Vali who had 10 years of training by grigori, Kiba having Sizechs knight to train them while Issei had nobody, azazel barely helped in training issei he just pushed it to tannin for 20 days and thats all of issei's training with a teacher If Issei had 10 years of training with a dedicated teacher like vali did, he would have grown so much that he in theory could face melvazoa now |
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2018-11-15, 02:14 | Link #5337 | |
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2018-11-15, 13:29 | Link #5338 | |
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Yes Azazel did help him train and learn the workings of his Boosted Gear as he gave him useful advice, came up with training menus, ways for Issei to become more powerful, etc. Just because he wasn't personally training Issei himself doesn't mean he wasn't of use. He most likely did the same thing with Vali. Azazel helped Issei develop. While training will make you stronger, it's kind of a stretch to say that 10 years of training will make him stronger than a Dragon God. Why else do you think Chichigami told Issei he needs the 12 Heavenly Breasts when Melvazoa comes? |
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