2009-04-21, 10:23 | Link #2061 | ||
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It's a pity there doesn't seem to be a translation of DVD 9's booklet. The entry for W.A.S is there.
You might consider that it actually uses more energy to just bob around than to zip through the area like a rocket. It uses X amount of magic per second to operate, regardless of the speed it's moving. As a result, it eats up more energy per meter at a walking pace compared to a flying pace. It's just like how they say your car's fuel efficiency is better at higher speed. Quote:
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2009-04-21, 10:51 | Link #2062 | |
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Speaking of translations, anyone interested in teaming up and getting this done? I've got the booklets, and I'm ready and able to edit them, but I kinda need help in the translating department. |
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2009-04-21, 12:17 | Link #2064 | |
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Here is the quote again for reference: The high concentration field filling the Cradle that prevents magical bonding. The reason for not doing a complete cut off is because magic is an extremely efficient and good energy source for Midchildra, and thus is essential to the daily activities and machinery usage of the people on board. It is thought that the Cradle's crew and knights are trained to resist AMF, and thus can use magic against intruders who are having difficulty using magic, thus increasing the defensive capability of the ground. |
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2009-04-21, 12:32 | Link #2065 |
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Precisely. In other words, there are limits on how relatively powerful it could be at its usual setting, seeing that it allows for the use of machinery (machinery that includes control circuitry, and you can't be telling me the only piece of machinery that has to work is the main engine..., rather than HUGE assortment of smaller machinery that services a large warship that carries the Emperor himself) and the daily activities of those on board.
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2009-04-21, 12:52 | Link #2066 |
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Machinery works differently from spells. An AMF would have no effect on machines since they don't necessarily link mana, as linking mana is a property for spells. The text says 'complete cut off,' not merely unlinking. It's a different function.
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2009-04-21, 12:54 | Link #2067 |
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No doubt the AMF and the ship's ancillary systems could be tuned not interfere with each other, or not as much. Or some kind of AAMF physical shielding.
On the subject of WAS drones, I would see it thus- their virtual materiality- with no real physical component (aside from gas molecules perhaps, used to stabilize the magical drone construct. I would further imagine that the drones don't have or need any kind of line of sight or controlling link, perhaps being interfaced with Nanoha and Raising Heart on the same level as something like mage-telepathy |
2009-04-21, 13:13 | Link #2070 |
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The fact that special mention was given to a process (strengthening) that was actually useful without having to link mana is a strong clue that there isn't exactly a long list of doables without linking mana.
And you are making the claim in the other direction, that magitech is MASSIVELY different from magical spells, even though the section on AMF clearly suggests they are being affected, and they don't do complete cutoffs so that they work. The fact that it is put in the same section as the AMF clearly suggests that "cutoff" is but a upgraded stage of what they are putting on usually, rather than some fundamentally different process. |
2009-05-19, 05:38 | Link #2071 |
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1) What setting is Nanoha StrikerS on? Is it on Earth?
2) I wonder why the weapons for the characters included magazines or cylinder (revolver) or pump (shotgun)? It seems that the weapons are more gun-like melee weapons (ex. staffs, knuckles, axe) than actual Magical Weapons... |
2009-05-19, 06:10 | Link #2072 | |
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1. Seasons 1 and 2 take place on Earth. In Season 3, they're in another world. The One World to rule them all and in the Darkness bind them 2. Dont' let the "Magical Girl" fool you into thinking that this is your run-of-the-mill magical girl show where the term "magic"="42". Basically, their weapons are like highly tuned machines used to form spells. The magazines and stuff are used for additional power. Magic is stored in 'cartridges' for use when they need a power boost.
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2009-05-19, 07:01 | Link #2073 | |
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DVD booklets. These are one of the few translated, I really want to get them all translated but I know zero written Japanese, and no translators are motivated enough to translate that mountain of text, so it's been kind of hard to get started. |
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2009-05-31, 09:04 | Link #2078 | |
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I'd like to point to the most recent (as of this writing) comic from The Order of the Stick for this: One character (Vaarsuvius) has made a deal with a number of fiends to bind the souls of powerful mages to his own, giving him access to their spellcasting ability. He goes and fights the series's main bad guy (Xykon), another spellcaster, who can no longer really match Vaarsuvius spell for spell. BUT- even though Vaarsuvius was a stronger spellcaster, at his core, he wasn't as strong as Xykon, because he didn't get anything other than spellpower from the deal, whereas Xykon had the experience, the resiliancy, and the tricks from gaining his power naturally (in his own words, "Spells don't equal power... Power equals power."). What I mean is that there are a lot of things beyond just energy boosts that it takes to really be strong. If Vivio was extremely weak without the power boost, it wouldn't have mattered how much power she got. It's the magical equivalent of being topheavy. At the very least, her Saint's Armor means that her defenses probably do rival her mothers'. But yeah, I'll admit that we don't really know yet. I'd be surprised if she wasn't a lot stronger than Ginga and the numbers, though. Where are they? The raws, too, if there are any; I don't have a lot of skill in Japanese, but enough that a kanji dictionary and a few hours (...and some consulting with my girlfriend...) will give me an idea of what's being said; besides, I need the practice. I've already read all of my untranslated manga. |
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