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All in all, if this is a prequel then I don't see how this can end in a happy way because we all know the problems presented here did not exactly change, I'll be curious to see how it all plays out though. I meant to say that I don't think they will rehash this line, since I don't think it will end well enough for her to feel a need to extol those types of feelings, more then likely I think this whole episode will likely reinforce her former sentiments before Lelouch alleviates them. We'll see anyway. Quote:
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Also, I realized that I think I read part of the translation wrong. What I originally thought was him saying Renya of the Dark took place in two different eras, I now think is him just saying Renya of the Dark takes place in a different era than Lelouch of the Rebellion again. I'm glad, and hope I am right this time. Quote:
I think the fact that Renya and ??? look like Suzaku and Lelouch can be coughed up to the fact that it might sell better to some people if it looks like Lelouch of the Rebellion, or they just can't come up with a good new design for main characters without CLAMP helping them. But, I think it is more like a "oh look, it's like Lelouch and Suzaku are back together, just... they aren't" selling point. Although I think it will come to have meaning in the story. Maybe not reincarnation, but at least that they are related. That way it could be explained. I think the whole Revival Re:advent thing on the announcement was more talking about the series, not the characters or plot. Not to mention that if people were reborn after they died, then it would have caused some serious problems if Charles' plan actually worked in Lelouch of the Rebellion. I just don't really think they are going to take things that way with Code Geass. At least, I hope they don't. Really, as much as I love Lelouch to death, I want to move on. Code Geass has the potential to thrive as a franchise, but only if they let go of Lelouch as a selling point. The only thing I want to see of him is possibly some mentions of him if a new story takes place after Lelouch of the Rebellion. Although I'd probably accept anything at this point as long as it doesn't suck, so they could probably pull off the reincarnation plotline and I guess I would be fine with it. |
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2009-12-10, 12:37 | Link #424 |
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It was mentioned that Code Geass: Renya of the Dark will be limited to the Manga. Here is a link that I found about it:
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2009-12-10, 12:38 | Link #425 | |
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I hope the prequel will answer many of our questions in mind especially relating to Suzaku which is not explained.
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2009-12-10, 12:48 | Link #426 | |
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2009-12-11, 03:49 | Link #429 | |
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Also, has anyone read Code Geass: Knight of the Rounds manga? Is the series as good as the Nightmare of Nunnally? I haven't heard much about that manga. |
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2009-12-11, 05:56 | Link #430 | |
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So, if it's just to get a remake of R2 with the same ending, do not want. |
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2009-12-11, 08:22 | Link #431 |
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Its LELOUCH. He is BACK. ALL HAIL LELOUCH .
But on the more serious note, i highly doubt it will be about Lelouch. It will probably be about the past. We will learn more C.C. . That is my guess. But although i hope, they would just continue from R2 *_*, that is probably not going to happen. Various sources have said Lelouch have died ( Not a spoiler, it is confirmed) so we all know that. But hey they can always bring him back alive. I mean, although they confirmed he is dead in the series, there sure are many ways for them to show it otherwise ( Hint: the ending scene when C.C. Was talking with Lelouch). I mean it is not the first when they bring a dead character back to life. Look at some of the gundam series like, Spoiler for series name:
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2009-12-11, 08:40 | Link #432 | |
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the entire goal of the plan was for him to die, because he WANTED to die to atone for his MANY sins during the show and during the course of the plan he made himself even MORE of a monster to to the point where aside from death, there is no possible future left for him on this planet unlike the GS/GSD example of someone dying to protect someone else and then later on being revealed to be alive. lelouch, for all intent and purpose, committed suicide willingly and intentionally bringing him back to life is pretty pointless when you remember that 1)there is no reason for him to be alive (the conflict that he spent the show trying to end, is over) 2)there is no use for him being back since (almost) every single human being on the face of the planet marks him as the worst monster in history, and would seek out to kill him (so he cant live anything resembling a human life anywhere where there are people) 3)he actually died because even HE believed that he DESERVED to die for all the horrible things he did during the show (and he certainty deserved to after all the crap he did during the last arc) so no no point in bringing him back
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2009-12-11, 08:56 | Link #433 |
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@ the above post , yes, as i have mentioned there is a very small chance to almost no chance of him comming back. But it is possible as it will always be the choice of the people who want to make more money.
If you read some of the reasoning and even fanfictions that people have come out with, you will realize that there are many ways that " Skilled writers" could bring him back and they will have plenty of reasons as why and how they brought him back. Will it happen? Probably not. Could it happen? yes, if the producers feel they can make money from it. Just think about it. Was there a need for a GSD series? GS, preaty much, had a great ending and had ended. But still GSD was produced and aried. How did they do that? They created a few more good guys and bad guys and a new conflict. Same exact thing could happen to Code geass ( again, not seeing it happen but could). Hey, Charles and his wife Mariance could come back. For all we know he might have just been sealed in another dimension. New enemy geass users under Charles starting a new conflict , while Zero ( Suzkaue) and blacknights try to stop it. Then Lelouch could help fight against them from shadows ( eventually meeting with Kallen and teaming up, ...). So there is a small chance if fans want another season of the same thing.
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2009-12-11, 09:07 | Link #434 |
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you missed the main point
its not about the HOW of bringing him back there are plenty ways for the HOW its the WHY there is no reason to bring him back at all he WANTED to die and he left behind people who could handle whatever the future may bring there is no reason to bring him back to life from a storytelling point of view, any more then there is a reason to bring back the main villain of GS so he can also be the villain for GSD and there is no reason for bringing lelouch back either for the same reason he's played his part in the story aside from fan-pendering, there is no point in having him come back to life, after going to all the trouble of killing him in such a way
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2009-12-11, 09:19 | Link #435 | |
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But, to be honest, it's likely that Sunrise will release a series of OVA's and Movies instead that focus on different characters, with C.C. as the focused character who links the whole history of the Code Geass Saga together, with the final chapter being her wish to die in the same manner as Charles x Marianne. |
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2009-12-11, 09:37 | Link #436 | |
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And now to answer your question about the " Why part". The answer is very very simple. Answer: If the producers feel like they can make more money from it, they would bring Lelouch back. Simple as that. It is all about profits. It has nothing to do with the storyline. P.S. In No ways i think They will make another series about lelouch. But all i am just saying, they could and would do if it was profitable to do so. This new series is probably either a completly new thing or maybe it talks more about C.C's Past ( or maybe future *_*). She has afterall lived for hundreds of years . P.S.S. The above P.S. is my speculation.
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2009-12-11, 09:46 | Link #437 | |
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i accept all you say
except for one thing in which you are wrong they never said they wanted people to interpret for themselves what happened that was a mis-quoting of what was actually said in the newtype interview what the director said was about "whetehr or not the ending was a happy one" sort of thing not "whether or not he's alive" Quote:
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they never implied he was alive, and always said he was dead
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2009-12-11, 10:27 | Link #438 | |
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If the producers want to bring back Lelouch, the best way for them to do so is to simply continue the story from where Season One had left off, with a new storyline that would have a different ending. Also, the interview was published one to two months before the announcement that Sunrise would consder doing more Code Geass. At that time when the interview was given, the producers assumed that Code Geass was over and done with. No one assume that Sunrise would give the greenlight on another Code Geass project. A lot of people loved Lelouch, and hated the story that led to his death. Some people like it while a lot of folks didn't, due to the changes that was made to the second season storyline. Code Geass R2 left a lot of gaps that confused a lot of fans. This is why they should remake the anime into a manga that could take its time with the story. I hope that Taniguchi will find success with Code Geass: Renya of the Dark, as far as the storyline is concerned. |
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2009-12-11, 13:42 | Link #439 |
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I, honestly, don't see the point of discussing whether Lelouch is alive or not. The staff has said he's dead, and they keep making big drama about it. So, I think it is fair to assume he's dead. And, if they ever want to revive him, well, that's their problem. I don't think many people would complain. I, for one, wouldn't.
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