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Old 2018-11-06, 21:43   Link #4941
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I wonder if there any magic items made using either Behemoth or Leviathan item drops? I know that the Leviathan Seal was made using Leviathan's remains but that is so boring. This is the three grand quest. Rightfully, Zeus and Hera each should have been given a item drop. I wish that an item from Behemoth was given to Bell, seeing that would serve as his inheritance.
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Old 2018-11-06, 22:45   Link #4942
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According to the author, Part 1 covered Vol 1-3, Part 2 covered Vol 4-8 and Part 3 covered Vol 9-11, and Part 4 started from Vol 12.

Part 1's main purpose was to show Bell's struggle as a low-class adventurer and becoming a high-class adventurer. Part 2's main purpose was to show Hestia familia becoming an actual familia as it was gaining new members. Part 3's main purpose was to give Bell a real reason to become stronger.

What exactly is the main purpose of the current part? Emphasizing everyone else's role in the familia?
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Old 2018-11-07, 14:09   Link #4943
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According to the author, Part 1 covered Vol 1-3, Part 2 covered Vol 4-8 and Part 3 covered Vol 9-11, and Part 4 started from Vol 12.

Part 1's main purpose was to show Bell's struggle as a low-class adventurer and becoming a high-class adventurer. Part 2's main purpose was to show Hestia familia becoming an actual familia as it was gaining new members. Part 3's main purpose was to give Bell a real reason to become stronger.

What exactly is the main purpose of the current part? Emphasizing everyone else's role in the familia?
Seems to me that everyone is growing up a bit: Lili growing into a more serious leadership role is an obvious one. Mikoto is getting a more defined role. Welf is kinda more of the same. Haruhime hasn't exactly come out of her shell yet but is becoming more broken as a party supporter - that party level boost is going to help the whole party stay relevant in deeper floors and not be so much of a liability.

And Bell seems much more solidly on the path to becoming a real hero. I wouldn't be too surprised to see him get another broken skill after all this. Like maybe even literally "Hero". Though perhaps it's a bit too soon for that.
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Old 2018-11-07, 14:44   Link #4944
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Isn't the current part supposed to be about Ryu mostly ? I remember reading the author's words on that in one of the last postscript.
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Old 2018-11-07, 15:43   Link #4945
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Isn't the current part supposed to be about Ryu mostly ? I remember reading the author's words on that in one of the last postscript.
Quite possibly though I've not read v13 so it's a bit hard for me to comment about how strongly this comes across in the story. In the v12 epilogue the author did say that the original desire was to jump immediately into the bit about Ryuu at least. I think it would be a reasonable expectation that Ryuu gets the most character development in this arc, but if she joins the Hestia Familia then it might be better to say that the overall arc is about the Hestia Familia growing into a fully-fledged and reasonably well balanced Familia.
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Old 2018-11-08, 00:03   Link #4946
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Yeah, maybe the whole part is about how much the entire Hestia family and other adventurers close to Bell are growing. Writing a whole part just for the sake of writing about Ryu doesn't seem to be correct.

Welf's growing role is shown from the new weapons he made. He made third-tier weapons for the familia when they were clearing the middle floors, but now some weapons he made are second-tier.

Lili's role as the strategist for the familia will probably be very useful when the party fights the 27th floor monster rex and will cause her to level up.

Mikoto is growing in her role as the familia's scout and one of its main offense.

Haruhime is growing as the mage supporter of the famillia. Maybe it will be shown more during the fight against the monster rex and then she will level up.
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Old 2018-11-12, 20:09   Link #4947
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book 14, out 12/14, will be 672 pages!

it is going to be epic.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4797396202

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book 14 cover
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Old 2018-11-14, 09:06   Link #4948
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book 14, out 12/14, will be 672 pages!

it is going to be epic.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4797396202

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I hate a lot on the illustrator for Danmachi main series but that is a really impressive cover
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Old 2018-11-14, 15:14   Link #4949
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It seems to hint that Ryu will join Hestia Familia
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Old 2018-11-14, 15:20   Link #4950
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Hype hype hype hype.

Would be nice if more pages = more illustrations, but I don't think it'll be the case.
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Old 2018-11-14, 15:22   Link #4951
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If only that illustration didn't have unnecessary fanservice with Ryu's bare breasts and Lili flashing her panties+ her skirt about to fall off + under breast visible, that would have been a perfect cover.
Oh well, can't have all we want, can we.
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Old 2018-11-14, 15:30   Link #4952
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^To be fair, based on the narration, Bell and Ryuu should have basically nothing on them because of what happened.
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Old 2018-11-14, 17:53   Link #4953
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It seems to hint that Ryu will join Hestia Familia
In the sense that we have the full members of Hestia Familia and nobody else except Ryu on the cover?


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If only that illustration didn't have unnecessary fanservice with Ryu's bare breasts and Lili flashing her panties+ her skirt about to fall off + under breast visible, that would have been a perfect cover.
Oh well, can't have all we want, can we.
Yeah, some of the more recent covers have a bit too much skin expose that feels contrived.
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Old 2018-11-14, 19:03   Link #4954
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If only that illustration didn't have unnecessary fanservice with Ryu's bare breasts and Lili flashing her panties+ her skirt about to fall off + under breast visible, that would have been a perfect cover.
Oh well, can't have all we want, can we.
I think it's a little late to be complaining about that this far into the series.
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Old 2018-11-14, 23:13   Link #4955
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She's blacklisted by the guild so if the guild knew they would try to arrest her, probably sending Ganesha familia's top adventurers to arrest her.
The fact that they have not mean that they don't know.
(well maybe Uranos and Fels know, but they haven't said anything to the rest of the guild then, so the guild itself doesn't know regardless).


Like kari-no-sugata, the reason why I want Ryu in Hestia familia is to make that familia still able to support Bell. I don't want the story becoming bell's adventure story and then sometimes a bit of story about Hestia familia doing stuff at home". They're supposed to support each other but with no level 3 they're becoming more and more dead weight for Bell. Ryu would never really become deadweight, since she's highly skilled level 4 almost level 5, Bell would need to reach high 7 before Ryu would become dead weight, so that's not any time soon.
So while I acknowledge that lore wise this may not be easy to solve Ryu's current problem with her guild, for the sake of the story I wish for it to be done.
And yes, like mentioned, it would be nice if the level 1 supporter would become level 2, but they're so slow in stats progression that it looks very difficult even with their current situation against that floor boss.
Actually, part of the Ganesha's familiar knew who she is, they just actively ignore it according to Ryuu's novel. In addition, Guild don't actually actively look for her. In addition, Ryuu still have her old contract with her goddess. Even if guild forgive her, she can't just join any familiar.
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Old 2018-11-15, 01:21   Link #4956
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Actually, part of the Ganesha's familiar knew who she is, they just actively ignore it according to Ryuu's novel.
One person in that group knows.

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In addition, Ryuu still have her old contract with her goddess. Even if guild forgive her, she can't just join any familiar.
Deities can set a falna so that another deity can take over the contract even without them around, so that's not an issue.
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Old 2018-11-15, 03:54   Link #4957
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One person in that group knows.



Deities can set a falna so that another deity can take over the contract even without them around, so that's not an issue.
It is that case only if the initial contract is set that way. Lilly had to do a conversion to join Hesteria from Soma Remember Ares have to release all his follower by hand one by one. The exception would be the god or goddess was send back to heaven like Istar.
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Old 2018-11-15, 08:58   Link #4958
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It is that case only if the initial contract is set that way. Lilly had to do a conversion to join Hesteria from Soma Remember Ares have to release all his follower by hand one by one. The exception would be the god or goddess was send back to heaven like Istar.
Considering how Astraea left Orario, I'm sure that she set Ryuu's contract to be convertible.
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Old 2018-11-15, 10:03   Link #4959
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I'm pretty sure that when Astraea set her contract, she didn't think that guild will place a huge bounty on her head someday.
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Old 2018-11-15, 11:09   Link #4960
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Is there a preview or a synopsis on that amazon link?
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