Attack on Titan - Spoilers & Speculation (for experienced Titan Attackers only)

[Raviel]

Does anyone know if we have a final tally of how many from the 104th are left after the Battle of Trost?

I wonder how people are going to react to 2-3 episodes of non-stop Titan snacking and what is perhaps the first big reveal of the entire series (Titan Eren). Although I'm afraid everything is going to be censored to hell and back.







P.S. It's a shame we won't be getting Titan-scale MMA animated any time soon though.

[Jan-Poo]

I'm not sure, but I think that after the Annie's finding everyone from the 104th trainee squad was put under surveillance. And that means that excluding the top ten minus Marco only Ymir survived. All the unnamed ones are dead.

EDIT: Actually after rechecking it appears that there are others from 104th squad that were put under surveillance apart from the named ones. But there aren't many of them. What I don't get is why Jean isn't with them.

Wait... where is Jean at this moment?

[Randrak42]

Minnnaaaaaaaaa!!!! I liked her actually, shame we only found her name out after she kicked the bucket.

[Raviel]

Originally Posted by Jan-Poo

I'm not sure, but I think that after the Annie's finding everyone from the 104th trainee squad was put under surveillance. And that means that excluding the top ten minus Marco only Ymir survived. All the unnamed ones are dead.

EDIT: Actually after rechecking it appears that there are others from 104th squad that were put under surveillance apart from the named ones. But there aren't many of them. What I don't get is why Jean isn't with them.

Wait... where is Jean at this moment?

That........that's actually a good question, where is Jean?

I think the last we saw of him was before Eren and everyone else left to go around Wall Rose but I'm not really sure.

[Jan-Poo]

Originally Posted by Raviel

That........that's actually a good question, where is Jean?

I think the last we saw of him was before Eren and everyone else left to go around Wall Rose but I'm not really sure.

IIRC Jean was chosen to impersonate Eren during the secret mission to secure Annie.

We then see him the last time (as far as I could find) together with Mikasa, Eren and Armin. They talk about how the walls are filled with titans.


But I don't get why Jean wasn't sent with the rest of the 104th squad. There could be others that could have worked as replacements. I can understand that they don't have reasons to suspect Mikasa and Armin since they are clearly aligned with Eren, plus Armin is actively trying to to catch Annie.

But what is the reason for trusting Jean? Anyone who wanted to be sent to the military police and that was among the first 10 should be at the top of everyone's suspicions.


And now Jean for a non well specified reason was left behind while Mikasa, Eren and Armin were dispatched to fix the wall.

[Kanon]

I had totally forgotten about Jean

I don't get why they're trusting him over all the others either. I assume Armin somehow managed to remove him from suspicion. As for his current whereabouts... what if he is the person Bert grabbed? We never saw him with the others at the wall, but perhaps he was there and the mangaka avoided showing him on purpose to fool the readers. Doubt it but just throwing that out there.

[bastek66]

Just caught up with manga. I wonder how long it take them to deduce that Connie's villagers was turned into giants. Maybe they try to cut out his mother from that lying titan.

[Raviel]

On another note about Connie's village, I'm sure everyone else noticed how Reiner was really keen on getting out of there ASAP like he was avoiding the topic.

[Seitsuki]

Adding credence to that theory is the fact that Titans only die when the back of the neck (where the 'operator' in 'human titans' are) is obliterated. Is it possible that the 'human pilot' of normal titans is there as well, just much more fused with the titan part? It could also explain the lack of awareness/intelligence- they are no longer themselves any more, just a melded mass. Could also be that this fusion is gradual, as Connie's mother still seemed to be vaguely aware.

[Randrak42]

I hope they don't mess up Eren's death in episode 5...this is really what I hope for the most this next episode.

[n120cky]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

I hope they don't mess up Eren's death in episode 5...this is really what I hope for the most this next episode.

The only thing that can mess up the scene is censor.

[Jan-Poo]

Wait I hope for is that they won't give more blatant hints like they did with Eren's father flashback.

[Randrak42]

Originally Posted by n120cky

The only thing that can mess up the scene is censor.

Like Jan-Poo said, they can also mess it up by throwing more hints than they should. In the manga I actually believed Eren was killed and in no way expected him to come back in Titan form. Of course I suspected that it was him when I first saw the titan fighting others, but during those 2 or so chapters until then I simply assumed Eren was actually dead.

The flashback did also happen in the manga before the second titan attack, however I believe people are more aware of it in the anime than in the manga for some reason. I admit that until Eren remembered it again later on (when they were cornered by soldiers) I completely forgot about the flashback, but for the anime I keep seeing anime-only viewers people referencing it.

[chaos_alfa]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

Like Jan-Poo said, they can also mess it up by throwing more hints than they should. In the manga I actually believed Eren was killed and in no way expected him to come back in Titan form. Of course I suspected that it was him when I first saw the titan fighting others, but during those 2 or so chapters until then I simply assumed Eren was actually dead.

The flashback did also happen in the manga before the second titan attack, however I believe people are more aware of it in the anime than in the manga for some reason. I admit that until Eren remembered it again later on (when they were cornered by soldiers) I completely forgot about the flashback, but for the anime I keep seeing anime-only viewers people referencing it.

I sadly suspect not many people will believe Eren is really death, because the injection hasn't come in to play yet and the anime-only watchers seem more aware of it

[Raviel]

I have a feeling the anime-only viewers won't believe it for the mere fact that Eren has been too "hyped" up" (so to speak) to believe that he's really dead.

[Terrestrial Dream]

When Eren lost his leg, it gave inclination that he might be really dead. I thought there might be no way for him to comeback. But yeah most people will probably that he will be alive.

[Grey]

I agree people won't think Eren will die. In the manga it still felt like they might kill him. He still felt like just one player in a larger conflict. He could die in a sudden twist as part of the world building. It would just show how grim the fight with the titans was.

But the chronological ordering meant a bit more time following Eren's character. So he's more of a main character who won't be killed off. And there's the OP too.

[Accelolita_]

I didn't think he would die for the mere fact he's the MC. But when his hand got chopped off I was like "Wait, will he fight later with only one arm..." and then his leg got bitten off and I thought "Waaaaaaait, how is he supposed to fight later?!" and I was very confused
Though I can't remember if I really thought he's dead, there was still this confusion. And when that one titan appeared I immediately thought "Wow, did Eren take control of the titan that ate him?!", well, wasn't too far off I guess

[Jan-Poo]

The OP doesn't mean much though. Remember Madoka.

If you watch the OP you'd think that the show is about her transforming into her magical self and fighting baddies.

[Rennir]

Originally Posted by Accelolita_

I didn't think he would die for the mere fact he's the MC. But when his hand got chopped off I was like "Wait, will he fight later with only one arm..." and then his leg got bitten off and I thought "Waaaaaaait, how is he supposed to fight later?!" and I was very confused
Though I can't remember if I really thought he's dead, there was still this confusion. And when that one titan appeared I immediately thought "Wow, did Eren take control of the titan that ate him?!", well, wasn't too far off I guess

Well, he could've gotten prosthetic arms and legs later, if the mangaka wanted to go that route. As for being hyped up, I think the anime does a good job balancing our expectations of Eren; he has a ton of spirit and is willing to give everything to kill Titans, but he doesn't excel in any one area in terms of combat or intellect.