What would it take to make you quit following Bleach?

[Kakashi]

Originally Posted by Ledgem

I started watching Bleach when it first came out, but quit around the 70's or 80's. I was getting out of anime in general at that point, but there was a filler arc going on around that point that was nowhere near as interesting as the main plot, so Bleach got cut. Now I'm considering getting back into it, but the high episode count and the comments here are keeping me from it.

This, in particular, speaks to me:



I like the characters in Bleach, and the series premise was pretty interesting. They did a fairly good job in those 70-some episodes of preventing things from becoming boring or stale. How can you keep that up for 300+ episodes, though? One of the things that attracted me to anime over many American shows was the fact that things happened in anime series: plots advanced, characters developed, relations between characters changed. I'm not against series that go beyond the 24-26 episode mark, but it's boring to just see likable characters running around and not doing anything particularly meaningful. I'm also not interested in being strung along, potentially for years. In a way it's sad when a series ends, but I like to see things through to completion. If there's no end in sight, well...

Looks like I won't be returning to this series. (Naruto is a similar deal - I stopped around episode 120 or so, after the fillers became tiresome. I'm not convinced that things are advancing in a meaningful way, nor do I see the series having a meaningful conclusion any time soon.)

Reading through the Bleach manga in one quick succession ISN'T too bad (as you can see, not really a glistening approval). BUT you may even enjoy it, because what feels like stasis and 'wasting time' for weekly readers fits reasonably well into the overall flow of the story when you're not waiting a week between each chapter. And it's always nice to finish what you started. However, that doesn't stop Bleach from being a very flawed manga. I'm not sure how forgiving you'd be of these things, but in my case I usually forgive flaws in the case of long running manga if there's a good amount of interesting content along the way. I would say that was definitely the case for Bleach (and Naruto) in it's earlier years, but now I'm beginning to doubt it will ever be the same again. Perhaps wait for both to finish (insert skeleton at computer gif) and see what people generally think?

edit: if you're only interested in anime, might want to turn away now, even monir seems to have lost his will to keep up with it...

[Lord of Pandemonium]

Originally Posted by Kakashi

Reading through the Bleach manga in one quick succession ISN'T too bad (as you can see, not really a glistening approval). BUT you may even enjoy it, because what feels like stasis and 'wasting time' for weekly readers fits reasonably well into the overall flow of the story when you're not waiting a week between each chapter. And it's always nice to finish what you started. However, that doesn't stop Bleach from being a very flawed manga. I'm not sure how forgiving you'd be of these things, but in my case I usually forgive flaws in the case of long running manga if there's a good amount of interesting content along the way. I would say that was definitely the case for Bleach (and Naruto) in it's earlier years, but now I'm beginning to doubt it will ever be the same again. Perhaps wait for both to finish (insert skeleton at computer gif) and see what people generally think?

edit: if you're only interested in anime, might want to turn away now, even monir seems to have lost his will to keep up with it...

Nothing was worse than the year of Syzayel--even I didn't read the chapters for months at time until he was DEAD

It's in transition stage right now---I believe that it will soon reach it's former glory


I really enjoyed this arc so it's not all bad. I just think everyone says it's bad because there is no "villain" at least not one we can see.

Then there are Aizen fans who are mad that "God is Dead" and Gin fans who wanted him to dethrone Aizen (I don't why, he's not as enigmatic as Aizen was) and then there are the Espada fanboys and girls who can't get over the fact that they were over-hyped by fans and not Kubo

Then there a Vizard fans who think they got played by Kubo

Then there are the Ichigo-haters that wish anybody but Ichigo was the main character (preferably his hollow side)

So people resent the new guys (I love that Ginjou, Tsukishima and Riruka)

As for myself, I will never quit--I might but I doubt it since this is the only series that holds my attention. The others I like for awhile then I forget them fast....Nura/ANE, and a lot of others.

Bleach is like a drug to me and I do it whether I want to or not. --That and I will ride it out until my favorite character dies...I will just stay off the forums and only visit for once in awhile because it's not fun for fan to talk with an army of non-fans

[Haak]

Originally Posted by Lord of Pandemonium

and then there are the Espada fanboys and girls who can't get over the fact that they were over-hyped by fans and not Kubo

Is this really a fact? Just asking. I just go head and drop these here

Spoiler for space:

Originally Posted by Haak

I'm sorry but there was never any exposition given to suggest Hitsu's intel could be that wrong, before or after. The arrancers were hyped up constantly throughout the entire arc, first when Hitsu gave the low down (I want you to read Chapter 197 again, and then tell me what you think), then when Ulquiorra first came, and then again when Grimmjow first came. Kubo was constantly making them out to be a real threat (Chapter 213 Page 19, Chapter 214 Page 16, Chapter 316 Page 16). He hyped it up even more through the ambiguity of who the Vasto Lordes were and their rankings. If the arrancars were never made out to be a threat then why was Ulquiorra revealing his 4th ranking a shocking plot twist? Why is the fact that there were three Espadas stronger than him such a big deal?

In any case part of the reason we also thought they would more affect on the plot is that Kubo had already given hundreds of chapters to them and their battles. If those batles were never going to affect the plot in any significant way, why make them?

But feel free to contradict me. How about giving me some evidence when it was made clear that the arrancars might not actually be a threat? Or some evidence that Aizen was just testing them and wasn't confident that they could beat Soul Society?

Originally Posted by Haak

I kinda already touched upon this before, but I just want to point out that it all started with Chapter 197 when Kubo devoted nearly an entire chapter on Arrancar exposition (well actually it was more like half, since he wasted the other half on pointless comedy) and named the chapter "Approaching Danger". I don't see how anyone can seriously read that entire chapter and say that Kubo isn't making the arrancar's out to be a serious threat...

[Nintendo]

a Aizen true death. my top 3 fav character, i demand he at least show up again in some form to own one more time!....so if they say hes dead and for sure dead.....that will be when i click my time card for the last time.