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sarcasteak · 2004-06-10, 03:48

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Originally Posted by Roseroar

Could I request Ep. 10, 6:21, where Seiji and his dumb friend are dancing and yodeling. Not sure if there's enough there to make it loop, but it'd be nice if someone could. ^_^ Oh, in 100x100, not a non-standard size, please. ^_^;

Wait, what's this I hear?! No file size limit?! So I won't have to butcher the sequence?! Yay!

I can't loop it smoothly unless I cut out the little hop in the beginning, but I'll let you see both versions:

Normal (201kb):

Looped (151kb):

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Originally Posted by Joshua

I also tried to make that one, but I couldn't get it under 100 kb @ 80*60... But then again, my gif-skills aren't that superbe

I don't think it has anything to do with skills; the sequence is simply too long for the file size constraint. The only way to attempt to fit it is by severly cutting the frame numbers...which will end up butchering the animation. >_<

Roseroar · 2004-06-10, 04:44

Well, I didn't want a size-limit due to it restraining too much, even though most things (forums/LJ etc) wont accept files over 20-50k as avatars. :\

Still, I wanted that sequence just because it's cute. ^_^; Thanks muchly, exactly what I was looking for, sarcasteak ^_^

sarcasteak · 2004-06-10, 04:55

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Originally Posted by Roseroar

Well, I didn't want a size-limit due to it restraining too much, even though most things (forums/LJ etc) wont accept files over 20-50k as avatars. :\

Heh, yah, 50kb is near impossible for this sequence; if you didn't mention "no-limit," I would've just ignored this request. ^_^;;

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Originally Posted by Roseroar

Still, I wanted that sequence just because it's cute. ^_^; Thanks muchly, exactly what I was looking for, sarcasteak ^_^

No prob...and I agree, it's too cute! I can still try to lower the file size and maybe cut out a few frames without sacrificing too much, but I doubt that would help very much with the file size.

Just out of curiosity...you are going with the looped version, right?

Roseroar · 2004-06-10, 08:10

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Originally Posted by sarcasteak

Just out of curiosity...you are going with the looped version, right?

Yep, it's smoother (and smaller) so better for general anigif use. ^_^

ZGMF-X10A · 2004-06-10, 18:59

when saving the pictures does it matter if you save the pictures as TARGA or JPEG? or is both the same size outcome... because the JPEG one i can't make it go down to 50kb >.< the closest i could get it is like 80kb... it was 64 colour and the 75 thing already ...

sarcasteak · 2004-06-10, 19:11

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Originally Posted by ZGMF-X10A

when saving the pictures does it matter if you save the pictures as TARGA or JPEG? or is both the same size outcome... because the JPEG one i can't make it go down to 50kb >.< the closest i could get it is like 80kb... it was 64 colour and the 75 thing already ...

What the hell? o__0;;
You should only save the file as GIF, nothing else. And if you have to go down to 64 colors, GIVE UP--it will NOT fit under 50kb. >_>;;

ZGMF-X10A · 2004-06-10, 19:57

no i mean the virtualdub thing not the ImageReady picture thing... and what colour do i save it as?

sarcasteak · 2004-06-10, 20:09

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Originally Posted by ZGMF-X10A

no i mean the virtualdub thing not the ImageReady picture thing... and what colour do i save it as?

Eh? I'm kinda confused here...I basically open both VD and IR up. I find the frames I want in VD and use Ctrl + 1 to copy that frame. Then I switch to IR, make a new frame, paste, and repeat the process...I don't save the frames and then compile them. As for saving, always use the highest quality until you finalize the GIF.

ZGMF-X10A · 2004-06-10, 21:01

lol... i'm confuse... so you don't save for VD.. >.<

sarcasteak · 2004-06-10, 21:06

No...I first go to the first frame of the sequence (that I'm making the GIF out of) in Virtual Dub. I pause. I do [Ctrl] + [1] to copy that frame. Instead of saving it, I paste it directly in Image Ready as a new frame. Then I go back to Virtual Dub, find the second frame, and repeat the process.

ZGMF-X10A · 2004-06-10, 21:59

isn't saving the sequence a faster way... ?? how many frames of pictures can you fit in a 50kb gif?? i have like 20 frames pictures... is that too much or should i reduce it to like 10... >.<

Edit: ok i made my first Gif avatar.. ^^ really shitty though >.<

sarcasteak · 2004-06-11, 00:21

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Originally Posted by ZGMF-X10A

ok i made my first Gif avatar.. ^^ really shitty though >.<

It's not that bad; give yourself more credit. ^_^

My suggestions: first of all, remove duplicated frames. In yours, frames 1-3, 4-6, 7-9, 10-11 are repeats, so you actually only need 4 frames total (1, 4, 7, and 10). By adjusting the frame delay (how long each frame is displayed) so that each of those 4 play longer, those unnecessary frames can be eliminated. This step is NOT necessary for your particular GIF because the sequence is not very long, but it's better to keep a good habit so you can fit in many more frames in other cases.

After you got all the timing and the frames down, make a perfect square selection (for example, 335x335 pixel) that captures the essence of the animation; in this case, just center in on Midori-chan and her pencil because you do NOT need the rest of the rectangular background. Crop the selection. Resize to 100x100. Create a transparent layer on the very top, select the entire layer, Stroke 1 pixel with the color of your choice (generally go with black), and you'll have a nice looping avatar with a border. This is of course a very formulaic way; there's nothing wrong with it, but sometimes you can try to be creative and do more...

Here's what I did with your current one:

The quality is not great because I had to enlarge the small GIF, but you can see even with the semi-transparent border and larger dimension, the file size is significantly smaller. Hopefully these tips help, and good luck with your future work. It's all about scene selection; as long as the sequence you choose is good, most likely the GIF will turn out good, too.

nephilim · 2004-06-11, 00:23

someday i should really try to learn how to make an avatar of my own though. i really like this avatar that lunchboxx made.

Millenia · 2004-06-11, 05:12

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Originally Posted by Tommy

Heres a gif from episode 10.

Which one do you guys think looks better? The slow one or the fast one?

OMG yeah, some 1 just had to do that 1 hehehehehe

ZGMF-X10A · 2004-06-11, 09:34

thx for the advice.. ^^ have to test out all the other options this ImageReady has to offer ... i don't even know where every option is >.<

Edit: how do i post the gif on the page do i have to put it on a site first? i wanna get the gif off my hard drive is that possibe ?

ZGMF-X10A · 2004-06-12, 20:26

hows this gif.. my avatar.. Midori's Breast Stroke... ^^ ;;

Roots · 2004-06-13, 21:24

I have a request:

Episode 12
Time: 5:50-5:54
Description: Midori with a cute little smile and her arm behind her head bobbing back and forth with Seiji's face beat-red. I want this avatar! No one steal it or I will inflict electronic pain on your computer

Secca · 2004-06-13, 21:43

Hmm episode 12 is already out? ^^

I'm stil on episode 10.

sarcasteak · 2004-06-14, 01:06

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Originally Posted by Roots

I have a request:

Episode 12
Time: 5:50-5:54
Description: Midori with a cute little smile and her arm behind her head bobbing back and forth with Seiji's face beat-red. I want this avatar! No one steal it or I will inflict electronic pain on your computer

Bull! 12 isn't out yet!

Hmm, 4 seconds seem a bit long, but since it's a loop I think it can be done. No. It's too cute...it MUST be done!

Low Quality Avatar Version:

I can't accept this! Midori-chan deserves so much better! Curse the file size limit! ;_;

High Quality Version:

There, there... ^_^

project_00 · 2004-06-14, 04:27

That's cute! Can I use it as a signature on another forum?

2004-06-10, 21:59	Link #71
ZGMF-X10A Tsukiyomi -Moon Phase- Join Date: Jun 2003	isn't saving the sequence a faster way... ?? how many frames of pictures can you fit in a 50kb gif?? i have like 20 frames pictures... is that too much or should i reduce it to like 10... >.< Edit: ok i made my first Gif avatar.. ^^ really shitty though >.< Last edited by ZGMF-X10A; 2004-06-10 at 23:53.

2004-06-11, 09:34	Link #75
ZGMF-X10A Tsukiyomi -Moon Phase- Join Date: Jun 2003	thx for the advice.. ^^ have to test out all the other options this ImageReady has to offer ... i don't even know where every option is >.< Edit: how do i post the gif on the page do i have to put it on a site first? i wanna get the gif off my hard drive is that possibe ? Last edited by ZGMF-X10A; 2004-06-12 at 19:03.

2004-06-10, 04:44	Link #62
Roseroar Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003	Well, I didn't want a size-limit due to it restraining too much, even though most things (forums/LJ etc) wont accept files over 20-50k as avatars. :\ Still, I wanted that sequence just because it's cute. ^_^; Thanks muchly, exactly what I was looking for, sarcasteak ^_^

2004-06-10, 18:59	Link #65
ZGMF-X10A Tsukiyomi -Moon Phase- Join Date: Jun 2003	when saving the pictures does it matter if you save the pictures as TARGA or JPEG? or is both the same size outcome... because the JPEG one i can't make it go down to 50kb >.< the closest i could get it is like 80kb... it was 64 colour and the 75 thing already ...

2004-06-10, 19:57	Link #67
ZGMF-X10A Tsukiyomi -Moon Phase- Join Date: Jun 2003	no i mean the virtualdub thing not the ImageReady picture thing... and what colour do i save it as?

2004-06-10, 21:01	Link #69
ZGMF-X10A Tsukiyomi -Moon Phase- Join Date: Jun 2003	lol... i'm confuse... so you don't save for VD.. >.<

2004-06-10, 21:06	Link #70
sarcasteak WAHA~ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: World overloaded with fun Age: 39	No...I first go to the first frame of the sequence (that I'm making the GIF out of) in Virtual Dub. I pause. I do [Ctrl] + [1] to copy that frame. Instead of saving it, I paste it directly in Image Ready as a new frame. Then I go back to Virtual Dub, find the second frame, and repeat the process.

2004-06-11, 00:23	Link #73
nephilim Loves Kaori Join Date: May 2004 Location: Singapore Age: 39	someday i should really try to learn how to make an avatar of my own though. i really like this avatar that lunchboxx made.

2004-06-12, 20:26	Link #76
ZGMF-X10A Tsukiyomi -Moon Phase- Join Date: Jun 2003	hows this gif.. my avatar.. Midori's Breast Stroke... ^^ ;;

2004-06-13, 21:24	Link #77
Roots 外人、漫画訳者 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Austin, TX Age: 41	I have a request: Episode 12 Time: 5:50-5:54 Description: Midori with a cute little smile and her arm behind her head bobbing back and forth with Seiji's face beat-red. I want this avatar! No one steal it or I will inflict electronic pain on your computer

2004-06-13, 21:43	Link #78
Secca nya` Artist Join Date: Feb 2004	Hmm episode 12 is already out? ^^ I'm stil on episode 10.

2004-06-14, 04:27	Link #80
project_00 Member Join Date: May 2004	That's cute! Can I use it as a signature on another forum?